• Physicists claim the universe could collapse TODAY
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[QUOTE]The universe could be about to collapse and everything in it - including us - will be compressed into a small, hard ball. The process may already have started somewhere in our cosmos and is eating away at the rest of the universe, according to theoretical physicists. The mind-bending concept has been around for a while, but now researchers in Denmark claim they have proven it is possible with mathematical equations. [/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/13/article-2523177-1A15118F00000578-989_634x535.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]‘The phase transition will start somewhere in the universe and spread from there. Maybe the collapse has already started somewhere in the universe and right now it is eating its way into the rest of the universe.Maybe a collapsed is starting right now right here. Or maybe it will start far away from here in a billion years. We do not know.’ The researchers looked at three main equations that underlie the prediction of a phase transition and showed how these equations can be worked out together and interact with each other. Although the new calculations predict that a collapse is now more likely than ever before, it is also possible, that it will not happen at all. [/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2523177/Could-universe-collapse-TODAY-Physicists-claim-risk-likely-started.html[/URL] Good old Daily Mail... :v:
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This is wrong. 2012 happened and we're all living in a computer simulation.
Daily Mail can suck on my small hard balls
silly newspaper, the world already ended in 2000
maybe theoretical physicists should maybe not be taken seriously maybe
i'll just wait for actual physicists to comment on this, rather than unaccredited physicists. although a lot of mainstream papers are commenting about this. but i'm pretty sure ever since we've learned about the new physics of the universe, we've been told the universe could collapse at any second
I thought this could have happened at any time? Like even before we evolved from microbes it could have happened? Or before Earth even existed at all. Besides, instant-apocalypses isn't new, like gamma-ray bursts that could wipe out all life on this planet in an instant.
Oh no I would never had guessed that something in the universe could kill us right now. I mean, yeah it's Daily Mail but even if they are right. Who cares? It COULD have started years ago. But also a meteor COULD hit us, a false vacuum COULD collapse, the LHC COULD kill us all etc. etc. etc. Etc.
And then, when it becomes a hard ball. It'll be used to play tennis. After all, that's how tennis balls are created.
[QUOTE=LieutenantLeo;43180000]maybe theoretical physicists should maybe not be taken seriously maybe[/QUOTE] What about Gordon Freeman?
Worry about car accidents and not false vacuum decay pls.
That sounds horrifying, but then again this is Hitler Lovers: The Newspaper who's saying this, so I'd take this with all the salt ever if I were you.
[QUOTE=Golgo 13;43180014]i'll just wait for actual physicists to comment on this, rather than unaccredited physicists. although a lot of mainstream papers are commenting about this. but i'm pretty sure ever since we've learned about the new physics of the universe, we've been told the universe could collapse at any second[/QUOTE] the possibility of this sort of collapse has been known since at least the 80s.
More sources, although they all pretty much have all the same writing [quote][url]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/13/universe-collapse-phase-transition_n_4437807.html[/url] [url]http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/why-the-universe-could-be-about-to-collapse-on-us/story-fnjwlcze-1226783069177[/url] [url]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131212113034.htm[/url] [/quote] [editline]14th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;43180077]the possibility of this sort of collapse has been known since at least the 80s.[/QUOTE] Since you're actually qualified, or, I know you at least have quite an advanced understanding of this scenario, what they're saying is basically what's been said? They're saying "it could happen now, or in a billion years", which, if i'm understanding correctly, has alreayd been said for 30 years? sorry for the questions, but i'm more into astronomy, not astrophysics :v:
I found nothing in the article that mentioned the universe had any bigger chance of collapsing "today" of all other days. I know they put the "TODAY" there just to hog viewers. Fucking dailymail does it again.
[QUOTE=Golgo 13;43180085]Since you're actually qualified, or, I know you at least have quite an advanced understanding of this scenario, what they're saying is basically what's been said? They're saying "it could happen now, or in a billion years", which, if i'm understanding correctly, has alreayd been said for 30 years? sorry for the questions, but i'm more into astronomy, not astrophysics :v:[/QUOTE] Yeah. Basically it could happen ~whenever the fuck~. It's not gonna happen more soon now or anything. It may happen tomorrow, or in a billion years, or never. There's not really much point worrying about it because we'd never see it coming anyway (or maybe we'd see it for a few seconds since the bubble doesn't travel at the speed of light exactly, they are liars). We'd never even see the new universe because the collapse inside the bubble would happen in something like a few milliseconds.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;43180077]the possibility of this sort of collapse has been known since at least the 80s.[/QUOTE] Can you please remind me of the name of the theory about something basically fucking up at any second or whatever? The one that would basically cause the entire universe to fuck up. I've forgotten it, and it was pretty interesting. It's probably a tall question, considering I've forgotten nearly everything about it, but I can hope! Was it a false vacuum or something?
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;43180141]Yeah. Basically it could happen ~whenever the fuck~. It's not gonna happen more soon now or anything. It may happen tomorrow, or in a billion years, or never. There's not really much point worrying about it because we'd never see it coming anyway (or maybe we'd see it for a few seconds since the bubble doesn't travel at the speed of light exactly, they are liars). We'd never even see the new universe because the collapse inside the bubble would happen in something like a few milliseconds.[/QUOTE] But is there a 100% chance that it will [I]eventually[/I] happen?
[QUOTE=Golgo 13;43180085]More sources, although they all pretty much have all the same writing [editline]14th December 2013[/editline] Since you're actually qualified, or, I know you at least have quite an advanced understanding of this scenario, what they're saying is basically what's been said? They're saying "it could happen now, or in a billion years", which, if i'm understanding correctly, has alreayd been said for 30 years? sorry for the questions, but i'm more into astronomy, not astrophysics :v:[/QUOTE] The possibility has been known for a long time, the properties of Higgs boson just confirm it AFAIK. Also isn't it thought to be extremely unlikely for a metastability event to happen at the current age of the universe? I remember reading from Wikipedia or some other source that it's more likely to happen when the universe gets older.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;43180148]Can you please remind me of the name of the theory about something basically fucking up at any second or whatever? The one that would basically cause the entire universe to fuck up. I've forgotten it, and it was pretty interesting. It's probably a tall question, considering I've forgotten nearly everything about it, but I can hope! Was it a false vacuum or something?[/QUOTE] You mean what they're talking about in the article? [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum#Vacuum_metastability_event[/url]
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;43180141]Yeah. Basically it could happen ~whenever the fuck~. It's not gonna happen more soon now or anything. It may happen tomorrow, or in a billion years, or never. There's not really much point worrying about it because we'd never see it coming anyway (or maybe we'd see it for a few seconds since the bubble doesn't travel at the speed of light exactly, they are liars). We'd never even see the new universe because the collapse inside the bubble would happen in something like a few milliseconds.[/QUOTE] Aha, so, this "new" news is basically standard astrophysics knowledge? I reckon that a sensationalist newspaper put this up first, and then others followed suit, getting people who don't understand the basics of the universe riled up. I fucking hate newspapers sometimes, especially the daily mail. For all we know, the physicists who've said this could have said "yeah, but this is common knowledge, we're just looking to see what effects the Higgs has on this"
[QUOTE=booster;43180165]But is there a 100% chance that it will [I]eventually[/I] happen?[/QUOTE] No [editline]14th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Golgo 13;43180179]Aha, so, this "new" news is basically standard astrophysics knowledge? I reckon that a sensationalist newspaper put this up first, and then others followed suit, getting people who don't understand the basics of the universe riled up. I fucking hate newspapers sometimes, especially the daily mail. For all we know, the physicists who've said this could have said "yeah, but this is common knowledge, we're just looking to see what effects the Higgs has on this"[/QUOTE] Well whether the Higgs field is probably metastable (and now we know it probably is) is what we needed to know if it was likely to happen. I wouldn't say it's [I]common[/I] knowledge necessarily, but it's been publicly available information for quite some time.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;43180178]You mean what they're talking about in the article? [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum#Vacuum_metastability_event[/url][/QUOTE] Ahh cheers, I wasn't sure if it was or wasn't due to the fact I won't go onto the DM website, so couldn't read the rest of the article. And the fact I'm pretty bad at astro and theoretical physics.
This is what the article is talking about right? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8z6HfSq7l8[/media]
universe, can you wait? i have stuff to do today
I was horrified then I saw Daily Mail and realized I knew about this for about a year now that this could happen at any second, on any day. [editline]14th December 2013[/editline] I learned this from [I]Cracked[/I].
VMEs scare me, but I don't think it's going to happen in my life time. I hope
I find it odd people worry about things like this. "Massive event will kill us before we even know it!" Well, I'll be dead before I know it so why should I care?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43180401]I find it odd people worry about things like this. "Massive event will kill us before we even know it!" Well, I'll be dead before I know it so why should I care?[/QUOTE] I agree but I still think "you won't know what's happening so why care?" is a bad way of thinking about it, I mean if you knew you were gonna be wiped out from existance in say 2 months - would that change your way of living those 2 months? For better or for worse? If for better then why wouldn't you care?
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