Texan who called Obama a gay prostitute might soon control textbooks

[axelord157]

[URL="http://www.nola.com/education/index.ssf/2016/03/obama_gay_prostitute_textbook.html"]Source[/URL]

[QUOTE]Her statements were introduced by board member Lawrence Allen, a Democrat: "You believe ... people from the Middle East are buying, using their dollars, to persuade textbook publishers to put more ... "[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Mary Lou Bruner stood before the Texas State Board of Education in 2010 to talk about [URL="http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2010/03/once_upon_a_time_in_textbook_t.html"]textbooks[/URL]. She was concerned, she said during her testimony, that the state's curriculum was being controlled by outside forces.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]"Obama has a soft spot for homosexuals because of the years he spent as a male prostitute in his twenties. That is how he paid for his drugs. ... Since he supports gay marriage, he should be proud of his background as a homosexual/bisexual. He is against everything else Christians stand for, he might as well be for infidelity."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Bruner holds a easters of Education degree from East Texas State University and worked as a teacher and counselor in Texas public schools for 36 years. Her campaign website states that if she is elected, she will "advocate for a return to traditional education," "promote conservative curriculum standards aligned with Texas values" and "protect the children's textbook fund from lobbyists."[/QUOTE]

[Sableye]

This is why the US can't have nice schools, because Texas practically controls the textbook market, and Texas is run mostly by right wing nut jobs

I'm not even sure what the fuck a conservative value textbook even looks like, like do you have Regan explaining chemistry?

[swebonny]

[QUOTE=Sableye;49869180]This is why the US can't have nice schools, because Texas practically controls the textbook market, and Texas is run mostly by right wing nut jobs

I'm not even sure what the fuck a conservative value textbook even looks like, like do you have Regan explaining chemistry?[/QUOTE]

Justifying or ignoring all the sick shit USA does around the world probably.

[HumanAbyss]

[QUOTE=Sableye;49869180]This is why the US can't have nice schools, because Texas practically controls the textbook market, and Texas is run mostly by right wing nut jobs

I'm not even sure what the fuck a conservative value textbook even looks like, like do you have Regan explaining chemistry?[/QUOTE]

And this is why I can't understand people who want the states to handle education individually

[Carbisari]

[QUOTE=Swebonny;49869201]Justifying or ignoring all the sick shit USA does around the world probably.[/QUOTE]

IIRC there was a history textbook with a map showing immigration patterns which called slaves "workers"

[Rangergxi]

[QUOTE=Levithan;49869238]IIRC there was a history textbook with a map showing immigration patterns which called slaves "workers"[/QUOTE]

[t]https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2015/10/Text-message.jpg&w=1484[/t]

They say "the slave trade brought.." so you can kinda assume they're not ignoring slavery but it is a bit silly.

[JohnnyMo]

[QUOTE=Levithan;49869238]IIRC there was a history textbook with a map showing immigration patterns which called slaves "workers"[/QUOTE]

[url=http://i.imgur.com/tDSX24E.jpg][B]Here[/B][/url] is an example of a Texan texbook presenting objectively factually wrong information.

[Raidyr]

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49869268][t]https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2015/10/Text-message.jpg&w=1484[/t]

They say "the slave trade brought.." so you can kinda assume they're not ignoring slavery but it is a bit silly.[/QUOTE]

Gonna go out on a limb and assume the text surrounding that picture extensively refers to slavery.

[XNiggerHunter88X]

Our textbooks usually gloss over the whole "Extermination of all the Native Americans" thing.

[Raidyr]

[QUOTE=Fapplejack;49869333]Our textbooks usually gloss over the whole "Extermination of all the Native Americans" thing.[/QUOTE]

Putting aside the fact that the "extermination of all native americans thing" isn't actually a thing, my american history textbooks adequately covered the subject of natives being systemically oppressed and pushed out of their territories by Europeans.

[TheTalon]

[QUOTE=Sableye;49869180]This is why the US can't have nice schools, because Texas practically controls the textbook market, and Texas is run mostly by right wing nut jobs

I'm not even sure what the fuck a conservative value textbook even looks like, like do you have Regan explaining chemistry?[/QUOTE]

Good ol 'big business' has a hand in the textbooks too. Like how most of the math books are written to be used along side Texas Instruments™ calculators

[dai]

[QUOTE=TheTalon;49869379]Good ol 'big business' has a hand in the textbooks too. Like how most of the math books are written to be used along side Texas Instruments™ calculators[/QUOTE]

do schools still explicitly call for a TI-84 or 89 and get mad at you if you buy a different version, even if it's a better model?

[Daniel Smith]

[QUOTE=Sableye;49869180]This is why the US can't have nice schools, because Texas practically controls the textbook market, and Texas is run mostly by right wing nut jobs

I'm not even sure what the fuck a conservative value textbook even looks like, like do you have Regan explaining chemistry?[/QUOTE]

Andrew Jackson explaining alchemy

[HumanAbyss]

[QUOTE=TheTalon;49869379]Good ol 'big business' has a hand in the textbooks too. Like how most of the math books are written to be used along side Texas Instruments™ calculators[/QUOTE]

Look up Pearson.

They essentially [B]own[/B] the education market in the US, and they're not printing accurate text books

and people want them more free to influence the curriculum than they already are by turning education into a states affair.

[Nautsabes]

[QUOTE=dai;49869498]do schools still explicitly call for a TI-84 or 89 and get mad at you if you buy a different version, even if it's a better model?[/QUOTE]

when i was in high school, yeah

[Kommodore]

[QUOTE=Swebonny;49869201]Justifying or ignoring all the sick shit USA does around the world probably.[/QUOTE]

when i was in high school there were two specialized programs of higher-level classes available in the final two years: Advanced Placement and the International Baccalaureate, whose content is crafted by university boards or committees specialized in higher education. the alternative is the state-branded curriculum.

[editline]4th March 2016[/editline]

the longer answer is that IB and AP were offered to students who either excelled or had parents willing to raise hell on behalf of theirs students, effectively barring crucial materials from the majority of the student body who might have found them eye opening, awakening, motivating, in ways that the humdrum bullshit regular curriculum might have not. typically IB and AP mandate subjects that are either not taught at all (philosophy), elective, taught only as a small part of larger general studies (comparative world history) or whose content is whitewashed, watered down, cherry picked, and not reflective of the contemporary academic canon.

[27X]

[QUOTE=axelord157;49869122][URL="http://www.nola.com/education/index.ssf/2016/03/obama_gay_prostitute_textbook.html"]Source[/URL][/QUOTE]

Shows how much you know, texas textbooks have been a creationist/political sinkhole for over ten years.

Literal non-article.

[editline]5th March 2016[/editline]

[QUOTE=dai;49869498]do schools still explicitly call for a TI-84 or 89 and get mad at you if you buy a different version, even if it's a better model?[/QUOTE]

Yes.

[axelord157]

[QUOTE=27X;49870104]Shows how much you know, texas textbooks have been a creationist/political sinkhole for over ten years.

Literal non-article.[/QUOTE]

Maybe you shouldn't assume I don't know things and shoot your smart mouth at me like you're the king of hot shit mountain, buddy. I just wanted to point on this special nugget of Texas insanity.

literal non-reply.

[Durrsly]

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[Dr.C]

[QUOTE=dai;49869498]do schools still explicitly call for a TI-84 or 89 and get mad at you if you buy a different version, even if it's a better model?[/QUOTE]

It depends. I've never been forced to get a Ti but everyone knows how to use them and the textbooks are written with instructions on how to use them but you're not actually forced to use them.
I suppose it's like owning an electric car outside of california; it's perfectly OK and you can get around but you're going to have a hard time.

Some of my professors have been pushing to break away from pearson/TI monopoly though. My linear algebra textbook is open source and free. My physics professor says to get literally any book since they're all the same. My stats professor posts scans of the pages on her site for us to use and she and my discrete math professor mentioned that there may or may not be copies of the textbook online if you know where to look *wink wink*

[Sableye]

[QUOTE=TheTalon;49869379]Good ol 'big business' has a hand in the textbooks too. Like how most of the math books are written to be used along side Texas Instruments™ calculators[/QUOTE]

hey the Ti-84 is a brick man, plus the value on those things never depreciates, they make the perfect hedge currency.

colleges are already stepping away from the textbook market though, outside of a few unchanging cornerstone books, my teachers haven't really had a formal textbook that they follow, and they're pushing that sort of open source curriculum downwards

[spaceghost]

[QUOTE=Fapplejack;49869333]Our textbooks usually gloss over the whole "Extermination of all the Native Americans" thing.[/QUOTE]

To be fair a huge % died from disease, not exactly any cures for smallpox and whatnot back then, not saying it makes violent atrocities ok but its still a shitty factor.

[Stormbuster]

[QUOTE=dai;49869498]do schools still explicitly call for a TI-84 or 89 and get mad at you if you buy a different version, even if it's a better model?[/QUOTE]

To be fair, their reasoning most of the time for not accepting certain models is that superior models can straight up give you the answer when the whole point was to learn how to get to said answer. If you have a test where you are allowed to use your calculator and said calculator has functions that directly go from point A to the destination for a more complex equation, then you aren't really proving that you learned anything aside from how you know which commands to input. (Especially true if other students don't have a comparable model, since this would be a blatant unfair advantage)

There is definitely plenty of things that they do that are irrational and not really justifiable, but that is one decision I agree with.

[Maloof?]

[QUOTE=dai;49869498]do schools still explicitly call for a TI-84 or 89 and get mad at you if you buy a different version, even if it's a better model?[/QUOTE]

my textbook says I have to get a TH89 but I think there is some tomfoolery there

[Snowmew]

[QUOTE=dai;49869498]do schools still explicitly call for a TI-84 or 89 and get mad at you if you buy a different version, even if it's a better model?[/QUOTE]

Not really much anymore, all of the standardized tests let you take basically any graphing calculator now, but all of the teaching stuff is usually designed around TI calculators because math education doesn't really like to change. Plus the whole thing with [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoGl8-Wc-L0"]TI basically owning the organization that created the curriculum[/URL] for calculators to be used in education.

IIRC, the SAT, ACT, AP, etc. tests all accept Casio and HP things now, among others.

Fun fact: for the Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) exam, you get a choice between two - an ancient piece of junk [URL="http://www.amazon.com/HP-HP12C-12C-Financial-Calculator/dp/B00000JBLH/"]HP calculator[/URL] that uses RPN, and a only-recently-approved [URL="http://www.amazon.com/Texas-Instruments-Professional-Financial-Calculator/dp/B0001EMLZW"]TI calculator[/URL].

[Guardbuddy]

[QUOTE=Raidyr;49869365]Putting aside the fact that the "extermination of all native americans thing" isn't actually a thing[/QUOTE]
Uh Raidyr, it is a thing. The state of California, back in the 1850s actually set up a system where you would be paid money for every Native American you killed. It contributed greatly in nearly destroying the entire Native American population in California.
You can read more about it here. [url]http://revcom.us/a/v21/1030-039/1039/gold1.htm[/url]

[Sgman91]

[QUOTE=Firespray;49871089]Uh Raidyr, it is a thing. The state of California, back in the 1850s actually set up a system where you would be paid money for every Native American you killed. It contributed greatly in nearly destroying the entire Native American population in California.
You can read more about it here. [URL]http://revcom.us/a/v21/1030-039/1039/gold1.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]

Do you have a properly cited source? I'm not going to take the word of "The voice of the revolutionary communist party, USA," at face value.

[Curls]

-HOW AWKWARD-

[L'Citizen]

[QUOTE=Fapplejack;49869333]Our textbooks usually gloss over the whole "Extermination of all the Native Americans" thing.[/QUOTE]

It's actually kind of weird. We glossed over the Civil War and Native American genocide in my history class, but spent at least a month on the Holocaust.

[editline]5th March 2016[/editline]

[QUOTE=sgman91;49871187]Do you have a properly cited source? I'm not going to take the word of "The voice of the revolutionary communist party, USA," at face value.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://scholarworks.umb.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1142&context=masters_theses[/url]

[url]https://www.pbs.org/indiancountry/history/calif.html[/url]

[url]http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/14/567667/-[/url]

I've been involved in a lot of discussions on this because it relates to the time period that I mostly study (Early frontier to Civil War and Reconstruction)
The Yankees had been trying to kill the Native Americans for years. I'd post more sources but my college's website crapped out on me.

[Guardbuddy]

[QUOTE=sgman91;49871187]Do you have a properly cited source? I'm not going to take the word of "The voice of the revolutionary communist party, USA," at face value.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, that was a pretty poorly cited source on my part (I honestly was trying to look it up fast on Google). I took notes on it when I took a class on it so that didn't really work as a read to post in a forum, but here is something a bit more reputable. It seems a bit more brief, but it basically says the same thing.
[URL]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/goldrush/sfeature/natives_03.html[/URL]