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[quote]The “Roll for Diversity Hub and Lounge” will be launched as part of a push to provide a resource hub for PAX attendees in relation to marginalized communities within the gaming audience, including women, people of color, the disabled, LGBTQ communities and those with mental illness. It will be a hub for communication, networking and, hopefully, an increased understanding of issues facing these communities every day and the promotion of a tolerant, safe space within PAX.[/quote]
[quote]The lounges, detailed as a separate space within the convention itself, have their own booths, tables, speakers and panel tracks, each with a focus on a company that serves a diverse community or is run by a diverse individual (or in the case of the panels, diversity issues and what I’m going to assume are issues of inclusivity in gaming).
They have their own information on diverse spaces and talks within and without the expo hall for the duration of the convention, their own security teams specially trained in “Safe Zone Training” (whatever that is), and generally appear to be an area where people of diverse backgrounds can chill out while non-diverse attendees can go to learn about people who aren’t like them in a tolerant space.[/quote]
This sounds like a hilariously bizarre way to counteract the whole "dickwolves" controversy.
what the fuck
So...the whole Separate but equal thing?
Watch as this gets so many replies berating things like diversity training and social activism. Facepunch never ceases to amaze me in terms of it being so close-minded in light of it being filled with liberal atheists.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;43220429]are they doing it because of all the dickwolf nonsense.[/QUOTE]
Dickwolf?
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;43220448]Dickwolf?[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/8/11/]The comic.[/url]
[url=http://debacle.tumblr.com/post/3041940865/the-pratfall-of-penny-arcade-a-timeline]The debacle.[/url]
People are really, really taking this whole dickwolves thing a little too far.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;43220412]"Diversity lounge"
What an awful name, it sounds like they're segregating people or something, I bet bars during the 50's had "diversity lounges".[/QUOTE]
did you actually read what it is? it's not segregating anybody, it's providing an area for EVERYONE to 'learn about diversity in the gaming industry'
[editline]18th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Del91;43220413]So...the whole Separate but equal thing?[/QUOTE]
yeah that's exactly what it is good job reading the article
[QUOTE=Banned?;43220467][url=http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/8/11/]The comic.[/url]
[url=http://debacle.tumblr.com/post/3041940865/the-pratfall-of-penny-arcade-a-timeline]The debacle.[/url]
People are really, really taking this whole dickwolves thing a little too far.[/QUOTE]
Really. Really? It's literally a joke about the silliness of the exact requirements of rpg and mmo quests.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43220478]Really. Really? It's literally a joke about the silliness of the exact requirements of rpg and mmo quests.[/QUOTE]
I know.
Look at what the internet hath wrought.
From reading the time line, it seems to be saying that this chick is offended that they mention that rape exists, while spouting that she is a rape survivor and is on a crusade against them.
Cool. Now us brown people don't have to wade through a sea of crackers to get to all the women
Like. She fucking made tee shirts that said Dickwolf survivors.
You're cashing in on your own controversy while asking Penny arcade to take down their dickwolf shirts.
What a crazy bitch.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;43220412]"Diversity lounge"
What an awful name, it sounds like they're segregating people or something, I bet bars during the 50's had "diversity lounges".[/QUOTE]
The funniest part is that this is exactly the kind of thing that some of the crazier SJWs on tumblr would promote.
It's full-circle.
I think it's a pretty neat idea, can't really hurt.
The whole tumblr, feminist rape culture thing is just hilarious.
Rape is a byproduct of power obsession, not culture in the western world. You want rape culture, look at Papua New Guinea. Literally 90 percent of males have raped another person.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43220478]Really. Really? It's literally a joke about the silliness of the exact requirements of rpg and mmo quests.[/QUOTE]
alot of the time rather than looking at the most basic stuff, why don't you look at the reactions to this?
[editline]18th December 2013[/editline]
people making twitters called 'rapefatchicks' people making fun of peoples stories in regards to their own rape
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43220511]alot of the time rather than looking at the most basic stuff, why don't you look at the reactions to this?[/QUOTE]
See my several posts above.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43220516]See my several posts above.[/QUOTE]
yes, they don't address anything except 1 person who got offended, you don't address all the people who use this to create a backlash against feminists, women & rape victims
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43220511]alot of the time rather than looking at the most basic stuff, why don't you look at the reactions to this?
[editline]18th December 2013[/editline]
people making twitters called 'rapefatchicks' people making fun of peoples stories in regards to their own rape[/QUOTE]
And you have to realize that it's all in good fun and just making fun of the person for taking it so obsessively. If you know anything about context and sarcasm, you can tell that a lot of them were joking around because of how serious the chick was.
I mean really, how can you not see it from posts like this?
[img]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfygfe1A001qfjiio.png[/img]
[editline]17th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43220525]yes, they don't address anything except 1 person who got offended, you don't address all the people who use this to create a backlash against feminists, women & rape victims[/QUOTE]
And the people who were literally using it to bash were shouted at and told to fuck off.
[editline]17th December 2013[/editline]
Also, it's completely uncool to make up a rape story and act like a crusader and have a false moral highground.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43220529]And you have to realize that it's all in good fun and just making fun of the person for taking it so obsessively. If you know anything about context and sarcasm, you can tell that a lot of them were joking around because of how serious the chick was.
I mean really, how can you not see it from posts like this?
[img]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfygfe1A001qfjiio.png[/img]
[editline]17th December 2013[/editline]
And the people who were literally using it to bash were shouted at and told to fuck off.[/QUOTE]
facetious remarks don't somehow make it alright to say things like that. sure, they were making fun of that one person, what does that change for all the other rape victims or women that were made uncomfortable by that rhetoric? 'ITS JUST A JOKE' is such a stupid cop out defense. yeah, it's just a joke making light of despicable behaviour and marginalizing victims of that behaviour
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43220478]Really. Really? It's literally a joke about the silliness of the exact requirements of rpg and mmo quests.[/QUOTE]
Rape is not funny and is not something that should be used as the punchline for a "joke."
The phrase dickwolves itself is completely nonserious.
and you know, somehow i think the penny arcade dudes agree with me, considering they decided to make a real big step towards connecting with marginalized groups within their community
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;43220553]Rape is not funny and is not something that should be used as the punchline for a "joke."[/QUOTE]
It's an issue of peoples sensitivity. Penny Arcade isn't reading rainbow.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;43220439]Watch as this gets so many replies berating things like diversity training and social activism. Facepunch never ceases to amaze me in terms of it being so close-minded in light of it being filled with liberal atheists.[/QUOTE]
Probably because the people that complain about things like sexism in video games are usually ridiculous
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43220559]and you know, somehow i think the penny arcade dudes agree with me, considering they decided to make a real big step towards connecting with marginalized groups within their community[/QUOTE]
The Penny arcade dudes really don't give a fuck. They're adults that are hilariously hard at work running several foundations, businesses and charities.
To them, it was completely overblown, they made fun of it, moved on, and told people to get over it and stop baggering the chick.
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[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43220586]The Penny arcade dudes really don't give a fuck. They're adults that are hilariously hard at work running several foundations, businesses and charities.
To them, it was completely overblown, they made fun of it, moved on, and told people to get over it and stop baggering the chick.
[img]http://puu.sh/5Qn8L.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Oh, if by moving on you mean the PA guy reigniting the debate after 2 years by proving he learned nothing and is still a despicable person?
[QUOTE=Primigenes;43220579]If you were to look at the reactions then you'd have to take into account the massive overreaction to the initial comic itself.
Yes the "rape "x"" twitter accounts are terrible and inexcusable but this wouldn't have happened if people didn't decide to go full retard reacting to that comic. It was such a harmless comic with a very obvious joke which somehow got turned into such a large shitstorm.
So yeah the "rape "x"" twitter accounts are really terrible but anyone who got super mad at the dick wolves comic is pretty dumb in general.
Gabe made some pretty stupid comments too that just egged everyone else to continue. It's just that this should have never been in an issue in the first place.[/QUOTE]
you really don't understand the point though, if all these stupid 'jokes' that make light of rape and rape victims aren't such a big deal, how come the second people have a problem with them the reaction is all this rape related shit? you think that doesn't speak of a greater problem lurking behind hilarious rape jokes?
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;43220600]Oh, if by moving on you mean the PA guy reigniting the debate after 2 years by proving he learned nothing and is still a despicable person?[/QUOTE]
He didn't reignite it. I'm sorry, but you shouldn't have to censor yourself over your opinion, no matter what it is. It's not as if he's shouting it.
He's just saying that it wasn't that big of a deal really, then people reignited it.
People got angry over the phrase "Dick wolves."
Let's just think about that.
[editline]17th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43220614]you really don't understand the point though, if all these stupid 'jokes' that make light of rape and rape victims aren't such a big deal, how come the second people have a problem with them the reaction is all this rape related shit? you think that doesn't speak of a greater problem lurking behind hilarious rape jokes?[/QUOTE]
It wasn't even intending to make light of rape jokes. It's making fun of the player characters indifference to NPC's if there's no gain to be made.
[editline]17th December 2013[/editline]
Commander Shepherd is literally accidental space hitler by that logic. He/She just stands by and lets a planet full of a species get destroyed. Learn how to read context.
How much of a Stalin is Shepherd, he/she literally killed an entire species with a simple order. Given to one of their own none the less.
doesn't really matter what they intended if they still did it. and then continued to do it. and still continue to do it
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