Republican Attacks on Mueller and F.B.I. Open New Rift in G.O.P. - Polidicks

[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/conservatives-mueller-fbi-republicans-trump.html?ribbon-ad-idx=3&rref=politics"]source[/URL] [QUOTE]WASHINGTON — A growing campaign by President Trump’s most ardent supporters to discredit the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, and the law enforcement agencies assisting his investigation is opening new fissures in the Republican Party, with some lawmakers questioning the damage being done to federal law enforcement and to a political party that has long championed law and order. A small but vocal group of conservative lawmakers, much of the conservative media and, at times, the president himself have launched a series of attacks to paint not only Mr. Mueller but institutions once considered sacrosanct to Republicans like the F.B.I. and Justice Department as dangerously biased against Mr. Trump. One of them, Representative Francis Rooney of Florida, called on Tuesday for top F.B.I. and Justice Department officials to be “purged.” Now some Republican lawmakers are speaking out, worried that Trump loyalists, hoping for short-term gain, could wind up staining the party, dampening morale at the F.B.I. and Justice Department, and potentially recasting Democrats as the true friends of law enforcement for years to come. Straddling both camps is Mr. Trump, who in [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/us/politics/trump-interview-mueller-russia-china-north-korea.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0"]an interview on Thursday with The New York Times[/URL] lavished praise on Republican congressmen who have defended him from a “witch hunt” and expressed confidence that Mr. Mueller would “treat me fairly.” [/QUOTE] related [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/13/us/politics/trump-mueller-russia-republican-campaign.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article"]Justice Dept. Official Defends Mueller as Republicans Try to Discredit Him[/URL] [QUOTE]WASHINGTON — Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein adamantly defended the character and impartiality of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, as he came head-to-head on Wednesday with an increasingly aggressive campaign by Republicans to discredit the inquiry. The Republicans’ effort received a fresh jolt from the release one night earlier of [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/us/fbi-trump-russia.html"]text messages exchanged last year between an F.B.I. agent, Peter Strzok, and an F.B.I. lawyer, Lisa Page,[/URL] describing the possibility of an election victory by President Trump as “terrifying” and saying that Hillary Clinton “just has to win.” Mr. Mueller [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/us/politics/mueller-removed-top-fbi-agent-over-possible-anti-trump-texts.html?_r=0"]removed Mr. Strzok[/URL] from the Russia investigation as soon as he learned of the texts, a step that Mr. Rosenstein praised. Nonetheless, Republicans used the messages as fodder to attack the impartiality of Mr. Mueller during an appearance by Mr. Rosenstein before the House Judiciary Committee. “The public trust in this whole thing is gone,” said Representative Jim Jordan, Republican of Ohio, summing up sentiments among his party. “It seems to me there are two things you can do: You can disband the Mueller special prosecutor, and you can do what we’ve all called for and appoint a second special counsel to look into this.”[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Crazy Politician] “The public trust in this whole thing is gone,” [/QUOTE] What :v: I want to know where this guy gets his information, because I'm pretty sure a large majority of the public still supports Mueller over trump and his friends, despite their attempts to discredit him.

Party on, Mueller. Party on.

[QUOTE=AJ10017;53020865]What :v: I want to know where this guy gets his information, because I'm pretty sure a large majority of the public still supports Mueller over trump and his friends, despite their attempts to discredit him.[/QUOTE] Presumably the same place he poops from.

[QUOTE=AJ10017;53020865]What :v: I want to know where this guy gets his information, because I'm pretty sure a large majority of the public still supports Mueller over trump and his friends, despite their attempts to discredit him.[/QUOTE] He's not getting his information from anywhere. He's lying to create a narrative.

[QUOTE=AJ10017;53020865]What :v: I want to know where this guy gets his information, because I'm pretty sure a large majority of the public still supports Mueller over trump and his friends, despite their attempts to discredit him.[/QUOTE] What politicians say and what is actually the truth rarely match up. Like, what are you going to do? Arrest him? Trump could say the roads are paved with gold and he farts $100 bills and that's why the economy is so great, it's not like anyone could do anything about it. Even in the 21st century power comes with little-to-no accountabilty when it comes to how you use it. Why people are so surprised when people who's measurement of success is the ability to lie and swindle lie and swindle strangers at no cost to them I have no idea.

Good! Let it tear them asunder, let it alienate the corrupt ones from the moderates that are willing to look past partisanship once in a blue moon. Make it easier for us to vote them out.

I wonder if the play here is for Trump to ultimately fire Mueller and try to shift the blame to the GOP and saying he used to have faith in the investigation

[QUOTE=Funion;53021260]I wonder if the play here is for Trump to ultimately fire Mueller and try to shift the blame to the GOP and saying he used to have faith in the investigation[/QUOTE] Trump can't actually directly fire Mueller. But he can fire people at the Department of [I]Justice[/I] until he finds someone who loves their paycheck and the chance to become Attorney General more than they love justice and America, and they fire Mueller. Saturday Night Massacre 2: Hold My Vodka. But here's the thing: The AG is a Senate-confirmed position, so Trump can't get away with going full retard unless the Republicans in Congress just give up all pretense of not being in on the conspiracy -- and this only works until Democrats retake control.

Fuck jim jordan, fuck him sideways out of my state.