• Russia offers a proposal to pipe gas into Germany
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MOSCOW — With an ambitious new pipeline planned to run along the bed of the Baltic Sea, the Russian natural gas giant Gazprom is driving a political wedge between Eastern and Western Europe. While the Russian-German pipeline offers clear energy benefits to Western Europe, Central and Eastern European leaders fear it could lead to a new era of gas-leveraged Russian domination of the former Soviet bloc. With its gas wealth and eyebrow-raising network of personal ties, Russia has divided members of the European Union that have vowed to act collectively to protect their security. Currently, Russian gas has to be piped through Eastern Europe to reach Western Europe. If Russia shuts off the gas to pressure a neighbor in the east, it is felt in the more powerful, wealthier countries to the west, where it touches off loud protests. [img]http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/10/13/world/13pipes.map.jpg[/img] The new Nord Stream pipeline will change that equation. By traveling more than 750 miles underwater, from Vyborg, Russia, to Greifswald, Germany, bypassing the former Soviet and satellite states, it will give Russia a separate supply line to the west. As a result, many security experts and Eastern European officials say, Russia will be more likely to play pipeline politics with its neighbors. “Yesterday tanks, today oil,” said Zbigniew Siemiatkowski, a former head of Poland’s security service. That is not the way the Russians present it. Gazprom, which supplies Europe with 28 percent of its natural gas, says the $10.7 billion project is commercial, not strategic. Matthias Warnig, Nord Stream’s chief executive and a former East German, said Eastern Europe’s fears were unfounded. “The wall broke down 20 years ago,” he said. Europe needs additional natural gas to compensate for declining output from the North Sea, he said, and Russia is the best place to get it. European officials have portrayed the project as one that helps unite Europe and enhance its collective energy security. The European Commission and European Parliament endorsed the pipeline as early as 2000 and both reconfirmed their commitments as recently as 2006. “As far as common energy policy exists, we are part of it on the highest priority level,” said Sebastian Sass, Nord Stream’s main representative to the European Union. [url=http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/world/europe/13pipes.html?em]More of the story here[/url] [tab]"Yesterday tanks, today oil."[/tab] Russia can play hardball with the rest of the world.
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Here babe have some more fueeellll Also, Alaska for fuel '10-forever
Of course the article is biased.
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[QUOTE=BLU Sandvich;17807911]Here babe have some more fueeellll Also, Alaska for fuel '10-forever[/QUOTE] Okay. Try building a pipeline from Alaska to Germany.
Sounds awful suspicious.
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;17807935]Okay. Try building a pipeline from Alaska to Germany.[/QUOTE] How about from Alaska to Alaska
Current Gazprom pipeline map. It's not like Russia doesn't have any influence in Eastern Europe. [img]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44470000/gif/_44470431_russia_pipelines_416_1.gif[/img] Yes, that's correct. You Brits are buying top-quality Russian gas. :clint:
Yeah that looks cool I guess. It looks like they should extend one through Spain to be honest.
The nazi's are rising again! Prepare for the worst.
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;17807961] Yes, that's correct. You Brits are buying top-quality Russian gas. :clint:[/QUOTE] Us British frankly don't give a shit. As long as there's petrol in our cars, you can do us in the bumhole however you like.
[QUOTE=thisispain;17807985]Us British frankly don't give a shit. As long as there's petrol in our cars, you can do us in the bumhole however you like.[/QUOTE] It would be wise to cooperate. :wink: I don't see why the British should rely on the US. Russia is perfectly capable to deliver and I see that many countries are coming to see that.
Yeah, unless you want to be sent to the Gulag. That's North England for us British.
[QUOTE=thisispain;17808064]Yeah, unless you want to be sent to the Gulag. That's North England for us British.[/QUOTE] Glasgow?
:raise:Glasgow's in Scotland, dear.
[QUOTE=thisispain;17808078]:raise:Glasgow's in Scotland, dear.[/QUOTE] But is it a hell hole?
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;17808104]But is it a hell hole?[/QUOTE] Fuck if I know. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_England[/url]
Fuck off Russia, we don't need your gas when Nabbuco is done:c00l:
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;17808104]But is it a hell hole?[/QUOTE] The North is better because we don't talk like gays. (No, Garry is not from the South of England, he's from the Middle. A place completely different)
[QUOTE=radioactive;17812806]The North is better because we don't talk like gays. (No, Garry is not from the South of England, he's from the Middle. A place completely different)[/QUOTE] And its fucking cold in the winter, you guys need gas in the winter otherwise people would freeze to death.
[QUOTE=radioactive;17812806]The North is better because we don't talk like gays.[/QUOTE] you are angry you don't live in actual England we get it
I somehow got this in my head Russia: Will you marry me Germany? Germany:Oh Yes Russia I do!
[QUOTE=booster;17813750]I somehow got this in my head Russia: Will you marry me Germany? Germany:Oh Yes Russia I do![/QUOTE] Then an affair and a wall in Berlin
[QUOTE=BLU Sandvich;17813802]Then an affair and a wall in Berlin[/QUOTE] Oh boy, same old story again.
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Idiots, can't they see that Russia just wants to build the pipeline to build a direct route into Germany for their commie forces. Don't let them do it Germany! Protect the Fatherland, push back the Asian hordes!
[QUOTE=RAG Frag;17813722]you are angry you don't live in actual England we get it[/QUOTE] North is better face it, gotta love your fritter in a bun... *Druels* Or do you Southerners call it a fish patty with potato inside of a bun with a side portion of chips? Yeh North rocks.
[QUOTE=joshdasmif;17860606]North is better face it, gotta love your fritter in a bun... *Druels* Or do you Southerners call it a fish patty with potato inside of a bun with a side portion of chips? Yeh North rocks.[/QUOTE] I understood none of that.
[QUOTE=:smug:;17860732]I understood none of that.[/QUOTE] I'm from Yorkshire we have our own language ;)
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