• Facebook's identity crisis: the mynameis hashtag and Ello
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[url]http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/facebook-demands-drag-queens-change-names/[/url] [QUOTE]Sister Roma, a widely known LGBT personality and member of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, was targeted by Facebook on Wednesday for having her stage name, rather than her legal one, appear on her personal Facebook profile. "I was automatically logged out and told my account was suspended because it appears that I'm not using my real name," Sister Roma told the Daily Dot. "I was instructed to log in and forced to change the name on my profile to my "legal name, like the one that appears on your drivers' license or credit card.'" [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The name change demand is part of Facebook’s latest efforts to “keep our community safe.” "Let me be clear," Roma said, "I have never attempted to deceive anyone and I'm certainly posing no threat." [B]The site stipulates that a name displayed on a personal account must be “your real name as it would be listed on your credit card, driver's license or student ID.”[/B] Queerty reports that the site has even gone as far as to request a copy of a driver’s license from some individual to prove a name is legitimate. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Some believe that the action isn't a bigoted one, but one driven by monetary gain. [B]If the site forces performers to migrate to fan pages, they'll have to start dolling out cash to Facebook for higher billing and promoted posts on fans News Feeds.[/B] In a post encouraging performers to purchase sponsored posts Facebook admits a non-promoted post only reaches about 16 percent of fans on average. "Honestly I feel it is about your profile matching your credit card—it's all about money," Roma said. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2014/09/19/facebook-will-delete-all-drag-queen-profiles-in-2-weeks[/url] [QUOTE]Things seemed to be looking up for the embattled drag queens of San Francisco after a small army of them met with Facebook executives on Wednesday afternoon...Perhaps we began celebrating prematurely. Yesterday, several media outlets published a statement from Facebook spokesman Andrew Souvall, who said [B]the company was offering drag queens and other avatar-users a 2-week grace period, during which they could switch over to their real names, or convert their Facebook profile into a fan page. In the meantime, the social network agreed to reactivate hundreds of drag profiles that had been deleted.[/B] Needless to say, leaders of the #MyNameIs protest were not pleased.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.dailydot.com/technology/ello-facebook-real-names-policy/[/url] [QUOTE]A little known independent social network might be having its big moment. As the debate around Facebook's naming policy rages on, a growing swath of Facebook users appear to be jumping ship into a smaller, social lifeboat of sorts. It's invite-only, anti-ads, and it's called Ello. Short of Google+—distrusted by many thanks to a similar recently reversed "real name" policy—no single social network could withstand a mass influx of Facebook's 1.32 billion monthly active users. But if this week's rumblings are any indication, disenchanted Facebook users could look to smaller, independent social networks like Ello for their next move.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.thegailygrind.com/2014/09/18/facebook-warns-drag-queens-will-delete-every-profile-two-weeks/[/url] [QUOTE]RuPaul’s Drag Race season 6 winner Bianca Del Rio, posted this Facebook message on Wednesday in response to the Facebook’s “real name” controversy: [IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/0hZ7oXn.jpg[/IMG_thumb][/QUOTE] Other social media response: [IMG_thumb]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByL-frtCYAA_ebH.jpg[/IMG_thumb][IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/qIIdzN9.png[/IMG_thumb][IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/y5fcGyV.png[/IMG_thumb] It's interesting to note that my facebook name is ridiculous and I haven't been requested to change it. Is it because I'm not making money off of it? Other than all the much more legitimate reasons listed above, is it so bad to have a different name so that only the people who you want to know you have a facebook profile know it? So that you can't be 'investigated' by potential employers? I don't really think I'd have Facebook if I had to use my real name. As for the people Facebook are purporting to get rid of, the bullies, trolls and the scammers, they aren't going to be using a name that flags as fake are they. It's a shame that [URL="https://ello.co/beta-public-profiles"]Ello[/URL] is pretty $#!7. Looks just like tumblr to me. Their policy on privacy and stuff is really the only positive.
We need to confirm your actual identity by various forms of paperwork and at least two photo IDs so that you may be allowed to view pictures of people's ugly babies and "omg too cute" pets while avoiding that one guy (you know, that one that's friends with your friends, but you don't really like him that much because he's kind of annoying at parties) that added you and keeps liking all of your shared memes from reddit. Ok.
That's really odd, because they've just recently added support for other pronouns, such as allowing for they, or for people to change their gender later on, so why would they be so persnickety about your name?
I'd rather not see someone's name as XxSkaterboy92xX on facebook I thought that was one good thing about it when I signed up like in 2006.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;46061811]I'd rather not see someone's name as XxSkaterboy92xX on facebook[/QUOTE] You could've just said it to my face.
I can understand both sides of the argument. However people who have their name including some random words like unicorn or skittles is just stupid
Sure, you can have all of my legal ids. That could NEVER go wrong.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;46061811]I'd rather not see someone's name as XxSkaterboy92xX on facebook I thought that was one good thing about it when I signed up like in 2006.[/QUOTE] I like the suggestion that some people make for facebook if they really want to make sure people aren't being dodgy by requiring identification but allowing the use of a psuedonym. Then they can indicate that it isn't a real name but not reveal the real name. Meanwhile people who try to use dumb names like that one are filtered out. In fact I like the current system that Facebook uses when you put in a name when it says "that doesn't appear to be a real name" for things like that. You still have to have a kinda normal sounding name. Mind you people can still get ridiculous names like that just by using the nick name system so I don't think this is a problem that has to be policed?
It's the user to decide. Fuck off with your forced shit.
[QUOTE=Complifused;46061826]I can understand both sides of the argument. However people who have their name including some random words like unicorn or skittles is just stupid[/QUOTE] This is already a feature with the nickname thing and it hasn't become a major problem. I don't think the risk to people's safety is outweighed by the inconvenience of people using dumb names. Plus you can report names like that if they're simply abusing it, rather than using it for a reason. If they just set up a feature where you can opt in to a pseudonym with a required completely private identification method (which they already do when they think you are using a fake name, ask you to prove it's real) then they would keep people safe and limit people using ridiculous names for lols.
I don't even see why it'd [B][I]HAVE[/I][/B] to be your legal name. Is Facebook some kind of governmental database now? Do I log in using my facebook to pay my taxes? Last I checked I didn't, so who gives a flipping fiddle if my name's "Big" lastname "Cunt"? Nobody but me and a handful of friends are gonna see it anyways.
Anybody feel like using Google+ instead? [sp]Anyone? Please...[/sp]
"Silly goy! We can't do anything with a fake name! Marketers wont buy those!"
how are there all these people in this thread not realizing Facebook makes it money from selling your personal info and that having a fake name makes that not possible or much harder? Do you guys really think a corporation is just giving things out scot free? You're not getting free lunch, you pay for it with your data. You agreed to do this by signing their ToS when you made your FB account, yes they can force you to change your account name or delete your account, you agreed to it.
My pseudonyms are the only thing keeping many of those reallife twats away from me on the internet. About silly and retarded names: See them as a mark for the one's you want to avoid. You can't do that with real names.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;46062805]how are there all these people in this thread not realizing Facebook makes it money from selling your personal info and that having a fake name makes that not possible or much harder? Do you guys really think a corporation is just giving things out scot free? You're not getting free lunch, you pay for it with your data. You agreed to do this by signing their ToS when you made your FB account, yes they can force you to change your account name or delete your account, you agreed to it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you know how capitalism works? In it's purest form? Facebook provides a service. Their service, while in extremely high demand, is fraught with terms and conditions that many people find unappealing but bearable. Should they decide to do something that makes most of their users feel like the terms and conditions are entirely unacceptable, then the users will seek another alternative to the service. Zuckerberg is about to feel the invisible hand ball itself into a fist and hammer him squarely in the anus if he doesn't proceed carefully.
"Im mostly known by my nickname/stage name"- You can use pseudonims after your real name- they appear between parenthesis, and if you have a stage name or you're mostly known by your nicnkame around you can be found by searching that instead of your true name. You don't like that? Create a public figure page instead of a personal page. You can do the same fucking things but name it 'The antichrist' and no one can argue. You can even set not to appear as an administrator so no one can tie it back to your profile. Paying only makes advertised posts appear on your friends' pages (and other demographic you cna choose), your normal ones still do. 'I have been stalked by an abusive partner/ I have received death threats' - Set your profile to private so only friends can see your wall/ message you + block people so you don't appear for them if they search for you. 'There are informations I can't share, sexual orientation, religion, else' - Well fucking don't? These fields are optional. tl;dr they are complaining for the sake of complaining, there are workarounds all of these problems
Facebook is completely retarded with enforcing things like this. My original account was disabled because they insist my legal name isn't a real name (despite the fact it's not even terribly uncommon...) yet the blatantly fake alt account I made has been going just fine without any issues.
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I use my real name for facebook because I don't give a fuck, but they can fuck off if they expect me to give them [I]proof[/I] that it's my real name.
My Facebook name just sounds like a real name, doesn't actually have anything to do with my actual name though.
My name is [b]Fuck Facebook Hello Ello[/b].
[QUOTE=Aide;46063997]My name is [b]Fuck Facebook Hello Ello[/b].[/QUOTE] Hi Fuck Face
My last name is Helps, and facebook won't let me use it because they say it's a verb and if I want to have it as my name I have to upload a copy of my birth certificate, meanwhile one of my friends has a ridiculous name that's clearly not real.
I wanted to change my facebook name to my chosen one but it didn't let me. I have an alt called "Madolf Snitler" and "Brosef Schtallin" and they're getting off just fine.
[QUOTE=ISPYUDIE;46065660]My last name is Helps, and facebook won't let me use it because they say it's a verb and if I want to have it as my name I have to upload a copy of my birth certificate, meanwhile one of my friends has a ridiculous name that's clearly not real.[/QUOTE] My alt account's last name is Wünderland and my real account's last name is Farmer yet they disabled it for not being a real name. (All this while leaving my uncle's account and his wife's account alone despite their last names also being Farmer...) Farmer is a completely valid and fairly common last name while Wünderland isn't a last name at all.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;46061811]I'd rather not see someone's name as XxSkaterboy92xX on facebook I thought that was one good thing about it when I signed up like in 2006.[/QUOTE] I thought the point of Facebook was to be like a college yearbook or something. It was supposed to be real people. Like, you wouldn't use a fake name for a yearbook or a dating site. At least, I fucking hope you wouldn't.
[QUOTE=gerbe1;46061412]Other social media response: [IMG_thumb]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByL-frtCYAA_ebH.jpg[/IMG_thumb][IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/qIIdzN9.png[/IMG_thumb][IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/y5fcGyV.png[/IMG_thumb] It's interesting to note that my facebook name is ridiculous and I haven't been requested to change it. Is it because I'm not making money off of it? Other than all the much more legitimate reasons listed above, is it so bad to have a different name so that only the people who you want to know you have a facebook profile know it? So that you can't be 'investigated' by potential employers? I don't really think I'd have Facebook if I had to use my real name. As for the people Facebook are purporting to get rid of, the bullies, trolls and the scammers, they aren't going to be using a name that flags as fake are they. It's a shame that [URL="https://ello.co/beta-public-profiles"]Ello[/URL] is pretty $#!7. Looks just like tumblr to me. Their policy on privacy and stuff is really the only positive.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;sNPnbI1arSE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNPnbI1arSE[/video] [B]#mynameis[/B]
[QUOTE=Agoat;46062391]Anybody feel like using Google+ instead? [sp]Anyone? Please...[/sp][/QUOTE] google+ does this fucking shit too i had to make my name "bob roberts" because it's SO FUCKING AGGRESSIVE fuck
Zuckerburg is a petty asshole if he thinks using an alias has anything to do with a person's integrity.
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