Creeping occupation: Russia advances 2km into Georgian territory - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Tbilisi is calling on the global community to "properly respond” to Russia’s "illegal actions” of creeping occupation at the Administrative Boundary Line (ABL) between breakaway Tskhinvali region (South Ossetia) and the rest of Georgia. Two days ago Russia’s occupational forces illegally placed so-called border signs near Georgia’s central highway in several villages in Gori municipality in central Georgia. This action, referred to as Russia’s creeping occupation, saw about two more kilometres of Georgian soil in the heart of the country now become occupied by Russia.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]agenda.ge/news/38872/eng[/QUOTE] Russia is at it again... for some reason the link isn't working, so just copy and paste it.

Eyy Russia calm down please.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;48194425]Eyy Russia calm down please.[/QUOTE] But they haven't waved their dick around enough yet.

[QUOTE=Enola;48194468]But they haven't waved their dick around enough yet.[/QUOTE] Really, what would you expect? This is what Russia looks like split into regions. [t]http://i.imgur.com/MaPOeNQ.png[/t] More on topic, I wish Russia could manage to function diplomatically instead of militarily. If that ice age article is right, we're probably going to end up at total war with them at this rate as they try to capture territory farther and farther south amidst the freezing of their ports.

Fuck off, Putin. You don't goddamn control those countries anymore, leave them the fuck alone.

Jeez, is Russia trying to reclaim the states it used to own back in the Soviet era or something? First Georgia, then the Crimea... Where next, Armenia?

[QUOTE=Grimhound;48194533]Really, what would you expect? This is what Russia looks like split into regions. [t]http://i.imgur.com/MaPOeNQ.png[/t] More on topic, I wish Russia could manage to function diplomatically instead of militarily. If that ice age article is right, we're probably going to end up at total war with them at this rate as they try to capture territory farther and farther south amidst the freezing of their ports.[/QUOTE] Battlefield fucking 2142

You already took Ossetia, fuck off.

Putin please die already. I want to visit the former Soviet Union but I can't do it while you're being a total cock.

[QUOTE=ironman17;48194581]Jeez, is Russia trying to reclaim the states it used to own back in the Soviet era or something? First Georgia, then the Crimea... Where next, Armenia?[/QUOTE] Finland, probably, sooner or later. Putin would probably justify it by saying "it was da turritary of rushn empire"

Daily reminder regarding Russia's troop movements over the past two years [IMG]http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/740/432/9fa.gif[/IMG]

Just to interject into the usual "fuck off russia/putin" circlejerk the EUMM monitors this stretch 24/7 and there have been no reports of any such action. [url]http://www.eumm.eu/[/url] You may continue.

[QUOTE=ProtoMob;48194814]Finland, probably, sooner or later. Putin would probably justify it by saying "it was da turritary of rushn empire"[/QUOTE] That's probably a given. But the real question is will they actually bother to go toe-to-toe with your infantry, or will they go straight to blasting the whole country with Tsar Bomba and wait until the radiation clears before annexing the glassy desert remnants?

[QUOTE=ironman17;48194898]That's probably a given. But the real question is will they actually bother to go toe-to-toe with your infantry, or will they go straight to blasting the whole country with Tsar Bomba and wait until the radiation clears before annexing the glassy desert remnants?[/QUOTE] I think the consequences might be at least 1% bigger because Finland is in the EU. Russia has been meddling with countries that aren't in the Union so far. EU might get miffed if the invasion of Finland does happen but whether they do anything about it is another question. It probably depends on whether it would be just another proxy war or an actual all-out invasion without any denial on Russia's part.

[QUOTE=TheKingofBees;48194871]Just to interject into the usual "fuck off russia/putin" circlejerk the EUMM monitors this stretch 24/7 and there have been no reports of any such action. [url]http://www.eumm.eu/[/url] You may continue.[/QUOTE] The source is also a Georgian newspaper, I'd take this all with a grain of salt. The Georgians really don't like the Russians either.

[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;48195430]The source is also a Georgian newspaper, I'd take this all with a grain of salt. The Georgians really don't like the Russians either.[/QUOTE] The Georgian government publicly accused Russia of doing this, it has nothing to do with Georgian newspapers. [editline]13th July 2015[/editline] [url]http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/07/13/uk-georgia-russia-border-idUKKCN0PN1VK20150713[/url]

[QUOTE=ProtoMob;48194814]Finland, probably, sooner or later. Putin would probably justify it by saying "it was da turritary of rushn empire"[/QUOTE] Nah, Russia has long already secured St. Petersburg and your neutrality since WW2. Georgia is openly hostile in its nationalism, having cancelled the autonomous oblast status of the pro-Soviet Ossetians and Abkhaz and fought a war to conquer them. They've been beaten back twice now. It seems Russia is trying to seize an important oil pipeline to completely freeze the conflict, out of a renewed fear of Western encirclement and how it inspires nationalists to do bold shit like in 2008 Georgia and 2013 Ukraine.

[QUOTE=ironman17;48194581]Jeez, is Russia trying to reclaim the states it used to own back in the Soviet era or something? First Georgia, then the Crimea... Where next, Armenia?[/QUOTE] They've been trying to do that since 1991, where have you been :v:

Mobilize NATO. Following previous incursions by Russia, Georgia has pushed hard to join up. Can secure their permanent support right now by dropping paratroopers to secure their border. With the permission of the Georgians, obviously.

[QUOTE=GunFox;48196015]Mobilize NATO. Following previous incursions by Russia, Georgia has pushed hard to join up. Can secure their permanent support right now by dropping paratroopers to secure their border. With the permission of the Georgians, obviously.[/QUOTE] Because military interventions always helped calm down tensions between (and in) countries. It is better we attempt to solve this diplomatically

[QUOTE=GunFox;48196015]Mobilize NATO. Following previous incursions by Russia, Georgia has pushed hard to join up. Can secure their permanent support right now by dropping paratroopers to secure their border. With the permission of the Georgians, obviously.[/QUOTE] How likely is most NATO nations even going to support such an action? Not to mention Georgia isn't formally part of NATO anyway. [editline]13th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Savant231A;48196068]Because military interventions always helped calm down tensions between (and in) countries. It is better we attempt to solve this diplomatically[/QUOTE] The irony in this post is that Russia is militarily intervening in Georgia right now with this.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48196104]How likely is most NATO nations even going to support such an action? Not to mention Georgia isn't formally part of NATO anyway. [editline]13th July 2015[/editline] The irony in this post is that Russia is militarily intervening in Georgia right now with this.[/QUOTE] Okay let's assume we want to poke the Russian bear. We paratroop NATO troops or guarantee the borders of Georgia. The Russians, who have been on their toes for a long time, will most likely see this as an attempt of encirclement. Their response will not be favourable. I would like to remind you that it's easy to consider a military intervention when, I assume, you do not even live on the same continent as Russia.

[QUOTE=Savant231A;48196178]Okay let's assume we want to poke the Russian bear. We paratroop NATO troops or guarantee the borders of Georgia. The Russians, who have been on their toes for a long time, will most likely see this as an attempt of encirclement. Their response will not be favourable. I would like to remind you that it's easy to consider a military intervention when, I assume, you do not even live on the same continent as Russia.[/QUOTE] Yet here we are promising to lend aid to someone who [I]does[/I] not only live on the same continent but [I]right next door[/I] with our own men and women into [I]their[/I] harm's way. [editline]13th July 2015[/editline] You don't stop a bully by rolling over and laying down every time he punches you. And Russia won't risk full war over 2 fricken miles of land.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48196199] [editline]13th July 2015[/editline] You don't stop a bully by rolling over and laying down every time he punches you. And Russia won't risk full war over 2 fricken miles of land.[/QUOTE] The use of military force should be the last resort to solving political problems Also, the bully analogy is a false dichotomy, there exist additional viewpoints

[QUOTE=Savant231A;48196312]The use of military force should be the last resort to solving political problems Also, the bully analogy is a false dichotomy, there exist additional viewpoints[/QUOTE] It should be the last, but clearly Russia is using it as the first. So we just sit on our asses and ask them to stop all pretty-please and such?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48196199]Yet here we are promising to lend aid to someone who [I]does[/I] not only live on the same continent but [I]right next door[/I] with our own men and women into [I]their[/I] harm's way. [editline]13th July 2015[/editline] You don't stop a bully by rolling over and laying down every time he punches you. And Russia won't risk full war over 2 fricken miles of land.[/QUOTE] Your first paragraph. What? Also, since when is the US promising to lend aid? It's my understanding that Georgia wants NATO, but isn't let in. And considering the military and political situation there, I can understand why. And I don't see how this situation really changes anything.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48196332]It should be the last, but clearly Russia is using it as the first. So we just sit on our asses and ask them to stop all pretty-please and such?[/QUOTE] Either that or we risk an escalation of conflict. I see no way how sending military troops at the 2nd largest military force on the world will solve any problems.

[QUOTE=Uberpro;48196339]Your first paragraph. What? Also, since when is the US promising to lend aid? It's my understanding that Georgia wants NATO, but isn't let in. And considering the military and political situation there, I can understand why. And I don't see how this situation really changes anything.[/QUOTE] I was going by the scenario Gunfox suggested, not saying we are actually doing so. [editline]13th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Savant231A;48196390]Either that or we risk an escalation of conflict. I see no way how sending military troops at the 2nd largest military force on the world will solve any problems.[/QUOTE] It'll stop further encroachment, for one.

[QUOTE=Savant231A;48196390]Either that or we risk an escalation of conflict. I see no way how sending military troops at the 2nd largest military force on the world will solve any problems.[/QUOTE] By sending the 1st largest military. Just kidding, we all know how that shit ends up.