Dog Saves Camper From Bear Attack, Camper Eats Dog To Survive After Being Stranded in Quebec Woods F
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MONTREAL — Outdoorsman Marco Lavoie, rescued Wednesday after three months in the deep woods near James Bay, made the heartbreaking decision to kill and eat his beloved German shepherd to stay alive.
A source close to the amazing story told QMI Agency that Lavoie, 44, sacrificed his dog when he became stranded at the Nottaway River, roughly 800 km northwest of Montreal.
A bear had eaten Lavoie's food and destroyed his boat in mid-July, leaving him alone with the dog.
A few days after the bear attack, the person who spoke to QMI on condition of anonymity said Lavoie used a rock to kill his dog before eating the pet.
By the time provincial police airlifted him out three months later, Lavoie was barely able to speak or eat. He suffered hypothermia and dehydration and had lost about 90 pounds.
Survival expert Andre Francois Bourbeau said Lavoie did what he could to live.
"He survived because he made ‹good decisions. Eating his dog was one of them," said Bourbeau, author of a survival guide.
Bourbeau has researched hundreds of similar stories, some of which include cannibalism.
"You have to be desperate, but there's no shame in (eating the dog)," said Bourbeau. "He had to use reason."
The survival expert says that after 30 days in the wilderness with no food, Lavoie's body would have gone into shock from starvation.
"Hunger squeezes you so much that you would accept food that's not normally possible," said Bourbeau. "You can crave slugs and bugs."
Lavoie is an experienced hiker who often spent weeks in the wilderness by himself. But the Nottaway River is considered too dangerous even for the hardiest outdoorsmen.[/quote]
[url]http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/01/man-apparently-ate-his-dog-to-stay-alive-in-quebec-woods[/url]
That must had be a terrible situation for him.
I remember hearing of a similar story. It's a tough decision and one that you'll always regret.
Sounds like a typical Man Bites Dog story.
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Well, if it was my/a human life or a dogs life, I'd choose the human life. Shitty, shitty situation that man was in.
[QUOTE=Aide;42744876]I remember hearing of a similar story. It's a tough decision and one that you'll always regret.[/QUOTE]
Why would he regret it? He prevented the animal from suffering and extended his life.
[QUOTE=cyanidem;42744976]Why would he regret it? He prevented the animal from suffering and extended his life.[/QUOTE]
Are you really going to feel good after killing a dog that saved your life
more so eating it afterwards?
[QUOTE=Aide;42744876]I remember hearing of a similar story. It's a tough decision and one that you'll always regret.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. He was dead if he didn't eat. His dog gave the ultimate sacrifice to keep his master alive. I'd be eternally thankful for him. I like to think that the dog gave his life to save his master's.
Dog is mans best friend =(
Is beloved pet saved him twice, you couldn't ask for more.
[QUOTE=Whiterfire;42745052]I disagree. He was dead if he didn't eat. His dog gave the ultimate sacrifice to keep his master alive. I'd be eternally thankful for him. I like to think that the dog gave his life to save his master's.[/QUOTE]
He should be thankful towards his dog but saying his dog gave its life isn't really true.
[QUOTE=solid_jake;42745050]Are you really going to feel good after killing a dog that saved your life
more so eating it afterwards?[/QUOTE]
Why does saving his life matter? It was his dog. Of course he never wanted to do it but you don't regret something you have no choice over. It was either they both die or the dog dies.
Eats dog because he sucks.
The Nottaway river is a couple of days of hiking, at worst, west of James Bay road. You don't even have to be accurate. Even with heavy overcast, a mere guess at which direction is East using the sun would have landed you on the road. Three fucking months, what a joke. Experienced outdoorsman my ass. Didn't even have a knife apparently. Fucking pathetic.
[QUOTE=Whiterfire;42745094]Why does saving his life matter? It was his dog. Of course he never wanted to do it but you don't regret something you have no choice over. It was either they both die or the dog dies.[/QUOTE]
yeah man, i definitely wouldn't regret murdering those 50 babies that i had to kill at gun point
i had no choice.
Just because you have no choice, does not mean you wouldn't regret doing it. Especially in this case, where he lived for three months afterwards 0 so he might not have even needed the nutrients eating the dog gave him to have survived. They both might have survived-the dog possibly being able to find its own food.
That possibility is where the regret comes in. And even then, if there was no possibility of anything other than his death and the dogs death had he not ate it, any decent human would feel regret and sadness over having to make that choice. You can regret making choices, even if it's the only thing you could have done.
In this case, I wouldn't say it was absolutely the only choice, but he didn't know that at the time. He didn't know he'd end up surviving for three additional months.
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745153]Eats dog because he sucks.
The Nottaway river is a couple of days of hiking, at worst, west of James Bay road. You don't even have to be accurate. Even with heavy overcast, a mere guess at which direction is East using the sun would have landed you on the road. Three fucking months, what a joke. Experienced outdoorsman my ass. Didn't even have a knife apparently. Fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Despite how horrible the story is, it's obvious that the guy isn't anywhere near experienced enough to be in such an area. The area isn't exactly bear free, and he put all his eggs in one basket (and also didn't have anywhere near enough eggs.)
If I had to kill a dog that I loved (and then eat it), especially after he/she saved my life, I'd be pretty bummed out.
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745153]Eats dog because he sucks.
The Nottaway river is a couple of days of hiking, at worst, west of James Bay road. You don't even have to be accurate. Even with heavy overcast, a mere guess at which direction is East using the sun would have landed you on the road. Three fucking months, what a joke. Experienced outdoorsman my ass. Didn't even have a knife apparently. Fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Do you ever shut the fuck up and think?
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745153]Eats dog because he sucks.
The Nottaway river is a couple of days of hiking, at worst, west of James Bay road. You don't even have to be accurate. Even with heavy overcast, a mere guess at which direction is East using the sun would have landed you on the road. Three fucking months, what a joke. Experienced outdoorsman my ass. Didn't even have a knife apparently. Fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Ohh man look at this captain hindsight with 20/20 vision stirring up shit, somebody does this in every thread. "This is what I wouldve done becuase my judgement is all knowing and I'm such an expert on this subject matter." Have you ever been stranded for more than a week? Or even read the book 'hatchet'? If you really think he 'sucks' for eating a dog then the closest thing you've ever experienced to starvation is that empty feeling an hour after you eat some Chinese food. Get real dude, go read hatchet which is about being stranded in the northern Canadian woods, I'm sure your opinion would change.
[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;42745167]yeah man, i definitely wouldn't regret murdering those 50 babies that i had to kill at gun point
i had no choice.
Just because you have no choice, does not mean you wouldn't regret doing it. Especially in this case, where he lived for three months afterwards 0 so he might not have even needed the nutrients eating the dog gave him to have survived. They both might have survived-the dog possibly being able to find its own food.
That possibility is where the regret comes in. And even then, if there was no possibility of anything other than his death and the dogs death had he not ate it, any decent human would feel regret and sadness over having to make that choice. You can regret making choices, even if it's the only thing you could have done.
In this case, I wouldn't say it was absolutely the only choice, but he didn't know that at the time. He didn't know he'd end up surviving for three additional months.
Despite how horrible the story is, it's obvious that the guy isn't anywhere near experienced enough to be in such an area. The area isn't exactly bear free, and he put all his eggs in one basket (and also didn't have anywhere near enough eggs.)[/QUOTE]
It's a different emotion from regret.
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745153]Eats dog because he sucks.
The Nottaway river is a couple of days of hiking, at worst, west of James Bay road. You don't even have to be accurate. Even with heavy overcast, a mere guess at which direction is East using the sun would have landed you on the road. Three fucking months, what a joke. Experienced outdoorsman my ass. Didn't even have a knife apparently. Fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE]
the only thing pathetic here is you.
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[url]http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Mouldings-Gun-Dildo/dp/B0020MOXNQ[/url] go make yourself happy or something instead of making inane posts like this.
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745153]Eats dog because he sucks.
The Nottaway river is a couple of days of hiking, at worst, west of James Bay road. You don't even have to be accurate. Even with heavy overcast, a mere guess at which direction is East using the sun would have landed you on the road. Three fucking months, what a joke. Experienced outdoorsman my ass. Didn't even have a knife apparently. Fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE]
fucking idiot didn't even have a gun on him
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745153]Eats dog because he sucks.
The Nottaway river is a couple of days of hiking, at worst, west of James Bay road. You don't even have to be accurate. Even with heavy overcast, a mere guess at which direction is East using the sun would have landed you on the road. Three fucking months, what a joke. Experienced outdoorsman my ass. Didn't even have a knife apparently. Fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE]
You are awful, just awful.
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745153]Eats dog because he sucks.
The Nottaway river is a couple of days of hiking, at worst, west of James Bay road. You don't even have to be accurate. Even with heavy overcast, a mere guess at which direction is East using the sun would have landed you on the road. Three fucking months, what a joke. Experienced outdoorsman my ass. Didn't even have a knife apparently. Fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE]
gunfox: where empathy doesn't exist
Cannot imagine making that call myself, that sucks. You got to do what you can to survive, the dude barley made it out.
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745153]Eats dog because he sucks.
The Nottaway river is a couple of days of hiking, at worst, west of James Bay road. You don't even have to be accurate. Even with heavy overcast, a mere guess at which direction is East using the sun would have landed you on the road. Three fucking months, what a joke. Experienced outdoorsman my ass. Didn't even have a knife apparently. Fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE]
oh man
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745153]Eats dog because he sucks.
The Nottaway river is a couple of days of hiking, at worst, west of James Bay road. You don't even have to be accurate. Even with heavy overcast, a mere guess at which direction is East using the sun would have landed you on the road. Three fucking months, what a joke. Experienced outdoorsman my ass. Didn't even have a knife apparently. Fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE]
you'd eat a bag of dicks and still die
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745153]Eats dog because he sucks.
The Nottaway river is a couple of days of hiking, at worst, west of James Bay road. You don't even have to be accurate. Even with heavy overcast, a mere guess at which direction is East using the sun would have landed you on the road. Three fucking months, what a joke. Experienced outdoorsman my ass. Didn't even have a knife apparently. Fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE]
if opnly he had an ar-47 with a m203 .45 caliber shotgun attachment and an open carry permit he wouldnt have had to bludgeon his living companion and could have stopped the taliban to boot
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745153]Eats dog because he sucks.
The Nottaway river is a couple of days of hiking, at worst, west of James Bay road. You don't even have to be accurate. Even with heavy overcast, a mere guess at which direction is East using the sun would have landed you on the road. Three fucking months, what a joke. Experienced outdoorsman my ass. Didn't even have a knife apparently. Fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE]
What are you doing?
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42745389]Ohh man look at this captain hindsight with 20/20 vision stirring up shit, somebody does this in every thread. "This is what I wouldve done becuase my judgement is all knowing and I'm such an expert on this subject matter." Have you ever been stranded for more than a week? Or even read the book 'hatchet'? If you really think he 'sucks' for eating a dog then the closest thing you've ever experienced to starvation is that empty feeling an hour after you eat some Chinese food. Get real dude, go read hatchet which is about being stranded in the northern Canadian woods, I'm sure your opinion would change.[/QUOTE]
There are two major things you do prior to leaving for something like this:
A) You always tell someone where you are going, and when you will be back. That way someone comes looking for you.
B) Look at a map. Know where to go when things go wrong.
These are things that can save you no matter how bad things get. You can lose all your supplies and still have those two things.
The guy ignored warnings from the locals about the river, went alone, and apparently didn't even glance at a map prior to leaving.
A lack of empathy? The dog is dead because this guy couldn't be bothered to do one simple thing. I am sad because his ineptitude got his dog killed and the article calls him an "experienced outdoorsman", it is ridiculous.
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745660]There are two major things you do prior to leaving for something like this:
A) You always tell someone where you are going, and when you will be back. That way someone comes looking for you.
B) Look at a map. Know where to go when things go wrong.
These are things that can save you no matter how bad things get. You can lose all your supplies and still have those two things.
The guy ignored warnings from the locals about the river, went alone, and apparently didn't even glance at a map prior to leaving.
A lack of empathy? The dog is dead because this guy couldn't be bothered to do one simple thing. I am sad because his ineptitude got his dog killed and the article calls him an "experienced outdoorsman", it is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
It's not like people don't make mistakes, just like you make 100% of the time.
[QUOTE=GunFox;42745660]There are two major things you do prior to leaving for something like this:
A) You always tell someone where you are going, and when you will be back. That way someone comes looking for you.
B) Look at a map. Know where to go when things go wrong.
These are things that can save you no matter how bad things get. You can lose all your supplies and still have those two things.
The guy ignored warnings from the locals about the river, went alone, and apparently didn't even glance at a map prior to leaving.
A lack of empathy? The dog is dead because this guy couldn't be bothered to do one simple thing. I am sad because his ineptitude got his dog killed and the article calls him an "experienced outdoorsman", it is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
trees tend to look alike, and that forest is very very dense
i'd like to see you navigate and survive that forest with nothing but your tactical operator dog
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