Out of control pit bulls as they attack multiple people in the middle of the street while their owne - General

[hd]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoMmE90DeyQ[/hd] That was pretty damn intense [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] The owner is an idiot, tho

People keep saying its the owners and it is to some extent but honestly. The breed is just violent. Look at what they did to that arm and how often this breed ends up attacking people.

This guy needs to be banned from owning dogs holy shit!

They should not be allowed. They were bred for this, it's in their genes.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48665578]People keep saying its the owners and it is to some extent but honestly. The breed is just violent. Look at what they did to that arm and how often this breed ends up attacking people.[/QUOTE] I'd only blame the owner because they decided to get a dog known for its aggression without training the dogs adequately or correctly. There are many pitbull owners who know what they are doing, have trained and raised the dogs correctly and as a result have completely friendly dogs. Sucks for the owner though since the dogs may have be put down after this incident depending on the laws where the video was filmed.

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;48665594]They should not be allowed. They were bred for this, it's in their genes.[/QUOTE] I dunno man... plenty of dog breeds were initially bred for big game hunting or were bred for war (mastiffs and similar sized dogs)... some say they can be super nice to people, but when I see things like this, it makes me wonder if it's not like having a damn lion as a pet. Not quite sure if generations of selective breeding can mellow them out enough to be pets.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48665605]I dunno man... plenty of dog breeds were initially bred for big game hunting or were bred for war (mastiffs and similar sized dogs)[/QUOTE] Pitbulls and Rottweilers are responsible for most dog attacks and most lethal dog attacks. They are dangerous breeds and people shouldn't be allowed to put other peoples lives at risk by owning them. The history doesn't matter. If they're not dangerous now we don't need to even bother.

there's plenty of examples of pitbulls raised to be docile family creatures unfortunately, whatever happened here is a direct example of how not to train your dogs. they were completely inobedient towards the owner(or walker) who also failed to control them these dogs are going to be put down no matter what, unfortunately.

[QUOTE=K1ngo64;48665597]Sucks for the owner though since the dogs may have be put down after this incident depending on the laws where the video was filmed.[/QUOTE] Last time I checked, most - if not all - dogs who attack people have to be put down, because one of the reasons could be that they probably won't treat people the same way as before the attack, and could become increasingly dangerous and almost impossible to re-educate... or so I've read. [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Rangergxi;48665613]Pitbulls and Rottweilers are responsible for most dog attacks and most lethal dog attacks. They are dangerous breeds and people shouldn't be allowed to put other peoples lives at risk by owning them. The history doesn't matter. If they're not dangerous now we don't need to even bother.[/QUOTE] I've read some time ago that there are a few bloodlines of German/Belgian shepherds that can also be very agressive, yet I've never heard of those attacking people nearly as much as these other breeds do. It's always the same breeds; rottweilers and/or pitbulls. [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] Also, as a non-dog person, I think they're more beautiful than pitbulls and rottweilers, love that black fur that gives them a wolf-ish kinda look [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5kVV7Rg.jpg[/IMG] The way I see it, rottweilers and pitbulls are cool among "bros" because they think they're just badass, and are fetishized (that is to say, the dog ends up being an extension of their cocks, just like their jacked-up pickup trucks), but they know nothing about how to raise a dog, and unfortunately most of them end up on the wrong hands... which leads to incidents like these.

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;48665594]They should not be allowed. They were bred for this, it's in their genes.[/QUOTE] This is a bad attitude to have. Pit bulls aren't magically born as evil child eaters, if they're raised as a normal dog they're some of the most loyal and friendly breeds there are. There's a reason there is such a massive pit bull rescue community: to get these dogs out of abusive homes and into the families that will love them and care for them. German shepherds are bred by police for agression and the ability to completely dominate a human, but they're undeniably great pets.

Those dogs are toast. When they get like that they're are extremely difficult to salvage. They've tasted blood, they clearly loved it and the owner had completely lost control over them. They're gone.

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;48665594]They should not be allowed. They were bred for this, it's in their genes.[/QUOTE] Hardly. Pit bulls as a breed actually have some of the most gentle and friendly personalities you're going to find in a dog. The problem people have with them is that in addition to the bad reputation they're very big and have extremely powerful jaws, so when they try to greet someone that person thinks they're being attacked, they fight back, and then it actually becomes an attack, and it does not end well for anyone.

What actually triggers a dog to focus specifically on one person? There were plenty of other people to bite, but they were only interested in him.

I do road service for a living, often visiting residences, and come across plenty of pitbulls. And pretty much only ONE of them was anything but delighted to see me, and adorably friendly. And the one was giving me a warning bite at best when I offered my finger for a greeting sniff. Didn't even hurt, just surprised me.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48665623]Last time I checked, most - if not all - dogs who attack people have to be put down, because one of the reasons could be that they probably won't treat people the same way as before the attack, and could become increasingly dangerous and almost impossible to re-educate... or so I've read. [/QUOTE] Pretty much. It's a real shame because Pitbulls if raised properly are absolutely great dogs and incredibly loyal. I've seen so many cases where either the owner was inexperienced and unintentionally raised a monster or they're as thick as pigshit and wanted the breed because "They're well ard innit" (this is just my experience in England)

I have a pit bull mix who was deemed to be "untrainable" and was set to be put down before I contacted the rescue about him. Didn't take long to get him under control and now he's nothing more than a fat/lazy and fairly social dog.

Every single human involved on that street did everything wrong. The only people who didn't actively escalate the situation were the owner who simply didn't have enough control to do anything, and the ones who stayed upstairs and called the police. The way the man they were jumping on, and the ones who attempted to help him acted did nothing but provoke them. When a dog is in a fight they will not get beaten into submission, no matter what the breed, you need to distract them and relax them.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48665692]Every single human involved on that street did everything wrong. The only people who didn't actively escalate the situation were the owner who simply didn't have enough control to do anything, and the ones who stayed upstairs and called the police. The way the man they were jumping on, and the ones who attempted to help him acted did nothing but provoke them. When a dog is in a fight they will not get beaten into submission, no matter what the breed, you need to distract them and relax them.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but fuck that. Not everyone knows what to do in a dog attack and if I'm being attacked by a dog (I have a fairly massive lab who is the gentlest soul, but his teeth freak me the fuck out, I can't imagine what I could do if he tried to grab hold of anything) or if I see someone getting attacked by a dog keeping calm and distracting it might not cross my mind. And again sure you can beat them into submission. I'm not saying it is humane or the right thing to do but a large stick suddenly seems like the best option when you see someone on the ground getting bit by two canines. Technically they might have done wrong, but no one on the street has to know the right way to approach a dog attack.

The only reason pit bulls get a bad rep is because people STILL buy them to be attack dogs, and so you run into stuff like this where assholes train that individual dog to fight.

[QUOTE=Fetret;48665741]I'm sorry but fuck that. Not everyone knows what to do in a dog attack and if I'm being attacked by a dog (I have a fairly massive lab who is the gentlest soul, but his teeth freak me the fuck you, I can't imagine what I could do if he tried to grab hold of anything) or if I see someone getting attacked by a dog keeping calm and distracting it might not cross my mind. And again sure you can beat them into submission. I'm not saying it is humane or the right thing to do but a large stick suddenly seems like the best option when you see someone on the ground getting bit by two canines. Technically they might have done wrong, but no one on the street has to know the right way to approach a dog attack.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying that it wouldn't appear to be logical for someone unfamiliar with dogs, fighting back is very basic survival instinct, it just could have ended better if they knew what to do. And the only way you'll get a dog to stop fighting by force though is to cripple or kill it.

I'm surprised they didn't punch and kick the shit out of those dogs. Bystander effect etc but even the people being attacked are being entirely passive. If a dog attacked me the first thing I'd be doing is gauging their eyes out and grabbing their legs and shit.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48665692]When a dog is in a fight they will not get beaten into submission, no matter what the breed, you need to distract them and relax them.[/QUOTE] doesn't work if they're already attacking you like what the fuck, am i gonna pull a chew toy out of my asshole and hope he goes after that while he's ripping me apart? [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Foogooman;48665761]I'm surprised they didn't punch and kick the shit out of those dogs. Bystander effect etc but even the people being attacked are being entirely passive.[/QUOTE] they didn't want to end up like that guy

[QUOTE=srobins;48665651]This is a bad attitude to have. Pit bulls aren't magically born as evil child eaters, if they're raised as a normal dog they're some of the most loyal and friendly breeds there are. There's a reason there is such a massive pit bull rescue community: to get these dogs out of abusive homes and into the families that will love them and care for them. German shepherds are bred by police for agression and the ability to completely dominate a human, but they're undeniably great pets.[/QUOTE] I remember a story about a woman who was part of a group to dispel the belief that pitbulls are savage killers. Her pitbull killed her.

[QUOTE=Jund;48665765]they didn't want to end up like that guy[/QUOTE] But what about the people already being attacked who just sat there and took it? That second guy got his arm bit really bad and all he did was stand there and scream at it despite looking young and capable of defending himself. More people should carry personal defense items too. I usually have my taser on me, that'd do nicely in this situation.

I was kind of hoping that this would be one of those sarcastic thread titles with a video that just shows a pitbull being cute :saddowns:

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48665692] When a dog is in a fight they will not get beaten into submission[/QUOTE] A dog being a bit frisky is not the same as a dog ripping an arm off in pure rage filled bloodlust

[QUOTE=Foogooman;48665778]But what about the people already being attacked who just sat there and took it? That second guy got his arm bit really bad and all he did was stand there and scream at it despite looking young and capable of defending himself. More people should carry personal defense items too. I usually have my taser on me, that'd do nicely in this situation.[/QUOTE] shock, fatigue, blood loss pitbulls are heavy and have crazy strong muscles. also most people have problems harming others, be it other humans or dogs, even if they're trying to kill you

[QUOTE=srobins;48665651]This is a bad attitude to have. Pit bulls aren't magically born as evil child eaters, if they're raised as a normal dog they're some of the most loyal and friendly breeds there are. There's a reason there is such a massive pit bull rescue community: to get these dogs out of abusive homes and into the families that will love them and care for them. German shepherds are bred by police for agression and the ability to completely dominate a human, but they're undeniably great pets.[/QUOTE] Well, even if they are raised as normal dogs, they still got the instinct in their genes. There is always a possibility that it can override the niceness it was raised with, because it is in its genes. I remember very clearly how a friend's friend's father had a pitbul, raised it lovingly like many dogs he raised before but he was aware of the breed. It was loyal and friendly like you say. One day, instinct kicked in, and it lunged after trying to bite his 4 year old daughter, luckily he managed to stop it in time, but after that he got rid of it. Instincts can override the way a dog like this was raised, because it is bred for this purpose.

[QUOTE=Jund;48665765]doesn't work if they're already attacking you like what the fuck, am i gonna pull a chew toy out of my asshole and hope he goes after that while he's ripping me apart? [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] they didn't want to end up like that guy[/QUOTE] I've broken up dog fights before, you want to grab them by the collar, separate them, and hold them down, if you speak avoid shouting and keep your tone calm and consistent. Now if you're the one they're attacking then it is, without variation, because of something you did (it's perfectly possible you don't know what you did but it will always be because of what you did). The most common issue with dog attacks is that people who aren't familiar with dogs being defensive around them. Dogs are aggressively friendly towards humans unless they perceive you as a threat, the issue is that this behavior can often lead to those dogs being perceived as threats by humans. Probably the most important things to avoid doing are retreating from an approaching dog or attempting to push it away.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48665805]I've broken up dog fights before, you want to grab them by the collar, separate them, and hold them down, if you speak avoid shouting and keep your tone calm and consistent. Now if you're the one they're attacking then it is, without variation, because of something you did. The most common issue with dog attacks is that people who aren't familiar with dogs being defensive around them. Dogs are aggressively friendly towards humans unless they perceive you as a threat, the issue is that this behavior can often lead to those dogs being perceived as threats by humans. Probably the most important things to avoid doing are retreating from an approaching dog or attempting to push it away.[/QUOTE] "dog fighting" and keeping calm around aggressive dogs is completely different from actually being crushed by pitbull jaws