• China Bars Hong Kong Lawmakers: Elected Pro-Independence Can’t Retake their Oaths
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[quote= Japan Times]BEIJING – China’s top legislature on Monday effectively barred two democratically elected separatist lawmakers from taking office in Hong Kong, an intervention into a local political dispute that’s likely to spark further turmoil in the southern Chinese city. The National People’s Congress Standing Committee in Beijing issued a ruling on a section of Hong Kong’s mini-constitution covering oaths taken by officials that meant two newly elected pro-independence lawmakers, who displayed anti-China sentiment during their swearing-in last month, would be disqualified. The move is likely to trigger protests in Hong Kong, where thousands of people took to Hong Kong streets Sunday after Beijing signaled it was planning to intervene. They demanded that China’s central government stay out of the political dispute, saying the move would undermine the city’s considerable autonomy and independent judiciary by bypassing its top court, where the case is currently being heard. Police used pepper spray and batons against some demonstrators trying to reach Beijing’s liaison office after the rally ended. Four people were arrested and two officers were injured, police said.[/quote] [URL="http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/11/07/asia-pacific/politics-diplomacy-asia-pacific/china-says-elected-hong-kong-lawmakers-cant-retake-oaths-effectively-barring-office/"]Japan Times[/URL] Other sources: [URL="http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-china-hong-kong-20161106-story.html"]LA Times[/URL] [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/08/world/asia/china-hong-kong-sixtus-leung-yau-wai-ching.html?_r=0"]New York Times [/URL]
Despite the accusations of imperialism, I sometimes think things would've been better off if we'd kept Hong Kong or at least left them in an arrangement where the Chinese couldn't interfere.
[QUOTE=GordonZombie;51322790]Despite the accusations of imperialism, I sometimes think things would've been better off if we'd kept Hong Kong or at least left them in an arrangement where the Chinese couldn't interfere.[/QUOTE] some arrangement where international troops stayed there to guarantee autonomy but such a situation would just be used to inflame the current anti-west views in china
[QUOTE=Sableye;51322875]some arrangement where international troops stayed there to guarantee autonomy but such a situation would just be used to inflame the current anti-west views in china[/QUOTE] TBH whilst people do have a point about the West sticking its nose into the business of other countries, isn't China doing the same thing?At least with the Hong Kong situation.
I think they used racial slurs that Japanese people used against the Chinese and said some naughty words in their oath which caused PRC to go nuts.
'The Peoples Refucking of China' didn't make them too happy either
[QUOTE=GordonZombie;51322887]TBH whilst people do have a point about the West sticking its nose into the business of other countries, isn't China doing the same thing?At least with the Hong Kong situation.[/QUOTE] No, nobody but the west could ever meddle in other countries affairs, don't you know that by now? Its always the West's fault.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;51322901]'The Peoples Refucking of China' didn't make them too happy either[/QUOTE] And they used [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shina_(word)[/url] instead of China. To be frank, if they just took their usual oath nothing would have happened and they could have continued working toward whatever their goals are.
[QUOTE=GordonZombie;51322887]TBH whilst people do have a point about the West sticking its nose into the business of other countries, isn't China doing the same thing?At least with the Hong Kong situation.[/QUOTE] Not really, Hong Kong is a part of China. It's like saying the British shouldn't stick their nose in affairs in Gibraltar. And from my experience, 90% of foreigners in Hong Kong treat it like they own half the city. (At least that was the case on 2010). Especially in certain parts of the city like Soho and Causeway Bay. Although when I lived there I did see several breaks of laws within "Mainland" Chinese tourists, and they treat the local Hong Kong Chinese worse than the westerners do. I think this has fueled Anti-Mainland sentiment in Hong Kong, and my dad still lives out there, and during the "Umbrella Protests" the HKPD and PLA garrison overstepped their bounds seriously, with beatings, random raids etc. And frankly fuck the Chinese government, my friend's dad was arrested in China a few weeks ago, heis crime was handing out Christian Flyers.
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