Chicago Tribune's Data Suggest 512 Homicides Have Been Committed In the City So Far This Year - Polidicks

[quote]After this past weekend's violence, homicides now stand at 512 for the year, according to data collected and analyzed by the Tribune. There were 491 homicides all of last year. More than 2,930 people have been shot this year. Tribune data is usually higher than comparable numbers provided by the Chicago Police Department because the department excludes killings on area expressways and those that are considered justifiable homicides. Through 5 a.m. Tuesday, the police department recorded 488 homicides, marking a 47 percent increase from 331 in the same year-earlier period and exceeding the 481 for the entire 2015, according to official department statistics. Homicides and shootings in Chicago continue to far outpace both New York and Los Angeles, both bigger cities. According to official statistics through late August, the most recent publicly available, New York and Los Angeles had a combined 409 homicides, well below Chicago's total.[/quote] [url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-violence-labor-day-tuesday-20160906-story.html]Chicago Tribune[/url]

What makes Chicago so shitty?

[QUOTE=Jetpack Bear;51010560]What makes Chicago so shitty?[/QUOTE] gang and drug related crime, i imagine [editline]6th September 2016[/editline] not all of chicago is shitty but the parts that are are pretty bad from what i have heard

[QUOTE=Jetpack Bear;51010560]What makes Chicago so shitty?[/QUOTE] If I recall correctly it's similar to Detroit in that white flight, mortgage discrimination, and the massive loss of jobs in the industrial/factory sector led to widely segregated and impoverished communities in which gangs and illicit drug trade quickly took root. The US, and these places in particular, have incredibly low social mobility and the violent and destructive cycle of gang and drug violence can be nigh inescapable.

Is Chicago becoming the new Detroit? 500+ homicides in ~9 months is insane.

[QUOTE=Jetpack Bear;51010560]What makes Chicago so shitty?[/QUOTE] If you stick to the "nice" parts and don't head down any wrong turns, Chicago is safe and a great city to live in. I occasionally stay with some friends who live in the heart of Chicago and I haven't felt unsafe, although I've been told if you head down a wrong turn even a few blocks you more than likely will be mugged.

[QUOTE=Jetpack Bear;51010560]What makes Chicago so shitty?[/QUOTE] just Cook county (which is essentially all considered 'part of Chicago' in statistics, not just the city center with the iconic skyline) is closing in on ~1/2 the landmass of the entirety of Rhode Island, and is five times as densely populated as RI. There's a LOT of people to add to various statistics, the population (5.2 million) is equal to Colorado, and greater (individually, not combined) than the total population of [url=http://www.enchantedlearning.com/usa/states/population.shtml]27 other states[/url]. On top of this, as others have already noted, is there's shitty places where crime happens far more often than others. There's actually a legitimate reason for this phenomena too, beyond the accusatory "that's where the poor black people live" shit people assume. That's a product of the situation, and forms a self-sustaining problem in the aftermath. I made a huge post on this not that long ago, read up [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1532753&p=50976789#post50976789[/url]

Chicago doesn't even make the top ten deadliest American cities list. People overblow the violence in the city far too much. It is noteworthy, however, that the murder trend has reversed and has been unusually high this year.

A good reason for the reversal is that cops are now becoming more scared of entering the hood. And people in the hood now see cops as evil. So they're less likely to report someone that is about to go murder someone else. Relations between the police and community they serve is very important for keeping criminals off the streets. This past year has absolutely wrecked it, and the politicians have been feeding it the hate as well.

[QUOTE=King Tiger;51010750]Chicago doesn't even make the top ten deadliest American cities list. People overblow the violence in the city far too much. It is noteworthy, however, that the murder trend has reversed and has been unusually high this year.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't really call the violence "overblown" when it has ten times as many murders as Denmark, but only half the population. Maybe it isn't in your top ten, but it should probably raise some eyebrows still. Obviously Copenhagen itself has a higher murder rate than the rest of the country, but come on, that sounds basically developing country bad.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;51010884]I wouldn't really call the violence "overblown" when it has ten times as many murders as Denmark, but only half the population. Maybe it isn't in your top ten, but it should probably raise some eyebrows still. Obviously Copenhagen itself has a higher murder rate than the rest of the country, but come on, that sounds basically developing country bad.[/QUOTE] I'm talking about how Chicago gets highlighted as some sort of ultra murder-town [b]as opposed to all the other US cities[/b] that have higher murder rates than it.

[QUOTE=Kigen;51010826]A good reason for the reversal is that cops are [B]now [/B]becoming more scared of entering the hood. And people in the hood [B]now [/B]see cops as evil. So they're less likely to report someone that is about to go murder someone else. Relations between the police and community they serve is very important for keeping criminals off the streets. This past year has absolutely wrecked it, and the politicians have been feeding it the hate as well.[/QUOTE] "now"? This dynamic has surrounded the projects for half a century in recent times though, due to Chicago being a prime scapegoat for anti-anti-gun-law arguments, yeah the politicians (both near and far) have been feeding hatred of the idea of the projects and those who reside there

You could pick any major US city out of a hat and it would probably still have a higher murder rate than Denmark. That's my point. People obsess over Chicago for some reason.

[QUOTE=King Tiger;51010908]You could pick any major US city out of a hat and it would probably still have a higher murder rate than Denmark. That's my point. People obsess over Chicago for some reason.[/QUOTE] as I kind of said above, Chicago's gun laws make it a major political whipping boy, getting cherry picked for the relevance compared to higher murder-per-capita cities who don't have similar laws. It's in the lime light constantly because people want to make a huge stink about how gun regulation doesn't work, but if they acknowledge the higher crime rates of other cities, they negate the narrative that chicago somehow suffers more due to the laws. Convenient to leave others out of the point to strengthen it

We have a website that tracks every homicide in the city. It's pretty neat. [url]http://heyjackass.com/[/url] [img]http://heyjackass.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016_city_map.png[/img]

[QUOTE=hl2poo;51011128]We have a website that tracks every homicide in the city. It's pretty neat. [url]http://heyjackass.com/[/url] [img]http://heyjackass.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016_city_map.png[/img][/QUOTE] I forgot how beautiful that site was [t]http://i.imgur.com/22rQkqv.png[/t]

[QUOTE=hl2poo;51011128]We have a website that tracks every homicide in the city. It's pretty neat. [url]http://heyjackass.com/[/url] [img]http://heyjackass.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016_city_map.png[/img][/QUOTE] I kind of hate to say it, but I expected more in Logan Square. I used to go to the Regal out there at night and it was so shady. I'm surprised I wasn't mugged

[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;51011926]I kind of hate to say it, but I expected more in Logan Square. I used to go to the Regal out there at night and it was so shady. I'm surprised I wasn't mugged[/QUOTE] Logan square is hipsterville. Sure I've seen the occasional group of thugs lurking outside of bars but that's why you don't walk around alone at 3am. Call an uber or use the buddy system.