Israel Deploys Nuclear Weapons on German-Built Submarines - Polidicks

[b]A German shipyard has already built three submarines for Israel, and three more are planned. Now SPIEGEL has learned that Israel is arming the submarines with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. The German government has known about Israel's nuclear weapons program for decades, despite its official denials.[/b] [quote]Germany is helping Israel to develop its military nuclear capabilities, SPIEGEL has learned. According to extensive research carried out by the magazine, Israel is equipping submarines that were built in the northern German city of Kiel and largely paid for by the German government with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. The missiles can be launched using a previously secret hydraulic ejection system. Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak told SPIEGEL that Germans should be "proud" that they have secured the existence of the state of Israel "for many years." In the past, the German government has always stuck to the position that it is unaware of nuclear weapons being deployed on the vessels. Now, however, former high-ranking officials from the German Defense Ministry, including former State Secretary Lothar Rühl and former chief of the planning staff Hans Rühle, have told SPIEGEL that they had always assumed that Israel would deploy nuclear weapons on the submarines. Rühl had even discussed the issue with the military in Tel Aviv. Israel has a policy of not commenting officially on its nuclear weapons program. Documents from the archives of the German Foreign Ministry make it clear, however, that the German government has known about the program since 1961. The last discussion for which there is evidence took place in 1977, when then-Chancellor Helmut Schmidt spoke to then-Israeli Foreign Minister Moshe Dayan about the issue. The submarines are built by the German shipyard HDW in Kiel. Three submarines have already been delivered to Israel, and three more will be delivered by 2017. In addition, Israel is considering ordering its seventh, eighth and ninth submarines from Germany. The German government recently signed the contract for the delivery of the sixth vessel. According to information obtained by SPIEGEL, Chancellor Angela Merkel made substantial concessions to the Israelis. Not only is Berlin financing one-third of the cost of the submarine, around €135 million ($168 million), but it is also allowing Israel to defer its payment until 2015. Merkel had tied the delivery of the sixth submarine to a number of conditions, including a demand that Israel stop its expansionist settlement policy and allow the completion of a sewage treatment plant in the Gaza Strip, which is partially financed with German money. So far, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has met none of the terms. Check back on SPIEGEL International on Monday for the full English-language version of SPIEGEL's cover story on Germany's cooperation with Israel over its submarine program.[/quote] [url]http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/israel-deploys-nuclear-weapons-on-german-submarines-a-836671.html[/url]

Well, this was kind of expected with the tensions between Israel and their neighbors, but oh the irony (Ok, it's a stretch, I know) in this

Fuck my country then.

[QUOTE=BloodYScar;36183538]Fuck my country then.[/QUOTE] For what?

Nuclear weapons are stupid. They should just launch stuffed animal tipped missiles instead.

And of course, since it's not Iran, noone will give a fuck.

Goggles on everybody. Please refrain from looking directly at the explosion.

What I don't agree with is that this is apparently done with German Taxpayers Money. If Israel wants German submarines with nuclear weapons why can't they pay them for themselves?

[QUOTE=Gordon Frohm;36183664]What I don't agree with is that this is apparently done with German Taxpayers Money. If Isreal wants German submarines with nuclear weapons why can't they pay them for themselves?[/QUOTE] Israel is a primarily Jewish country? Probably political correctness bullshit like usual.

I also find it outrageous that our government has and is still denying the whole part about the nuclear weapons.

[QUOTE=draugur;36183694]Israel is a primarily Jewish country? Probably political correctness bullshit like usual.[/QUOTE] What the fuck does buying submarines have to do with being Jewish.

[QUOTE]Merkel had tied the delivery of the sixth submarine to a number of conditions, including a demand that Israel stop its expansionist settlement policy and allow the completion of a sewage treatment plant in the Gaza Strip, which is partially financed with German money. So far, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has met none of the terms.[/QUOTE] That speaks volumes, doesn't it?

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36183776]What the fuck does buying submarines have to do with being Jewish.[/QUOTE] Just because something has nothing to do with the price of fish, it doesn't stop people, especially those like Netanyahu, from using them.

[QUOTE=Gordon Frohm;36183815]That speaks volumes, doesn't it?[/QUOTE] [quote]So far, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has met none of the terms.[/quote] He's never going to meet those terms (i.e. specifically stopping the illegal expansionist settlement policy), Merkel knows this but she isn't going to give a shit. Its just a facade to try to legitimize the sale.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36183776]What the fuck does buying submarines have to do with being Jewish.[/QUOTE] The reason they got them for German tax payer money. Because if they made Israel buy them, it would cause a political correctness shitstorm because of the holocaust. Because the fucking media is a bunch of idiotic head of ass fuckwits who thinks that if you so much as do something that could even potentially hurt someone's feelings that you're a fucking monster. They'd have a field day over Israel having to actually buy things from Germany, because of the holocaust and shit.

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;36183610]And of course, since it's not Iran, noone will give a fuck.[/QUOTE] i don't think people give more of shit for Israel in the situation either i personally thing its just another bad foreign relationship between the both of them, with US getting involved.

How about they launch missiles filled with food and medical supplies?

It's ironic because the ovens on those submarines they are using to cook the food are made in GERMANY! Or maybe they order the subs with no kitchen appliances, so they could install them in Israel, thus avoiding what would otherwise be an awkward situation. I bet the Germans still charged them full price though, so that would be ironic again.

"Your country unjustly killed millions of people under a different regime in a different political climate 60 years ago give us free military hardware so we can commit war crimes with them." - Israeli foreign policy paraphrased

How much can we trust the source? I've been searching relevant terms about "nuclear weapons" on German subs, but nothing is even remotely showing up.

Guys, military hardware trading isn't influenced by "political correctness" or some shit, Christ. Also I'd imagine Israel pays for them (yes they are most probably built using Germany's money, but then they are sold to Israel).

[QUOTE=Groat;36184317]"Your country unjustly killed millions of people under a different regime in a different political climate 60 years ago [B]give us free military hardware[/B] so we can commit war crimes with them." - Israeli foreign policy paraphrased[/QUOTE] Germany is not doing it for free. Read this part again: [QUOTE]Not only is Berlin financing one-third of the cost of the submarine, around €135 million ($168 million), but it is also allowing Israel to defer its payment until 2015.[/QUOTE] Meaning Isreal only pays two-thirds of the cost of the submarines and they can postpone payment until 2015.

When will Israel finally realise that the entire world can't attack them because they're backed by the US, therefore they don't need all these nuclear weapons and extra territories?

So now they can launch nuclear missiles from anywhere. How is it again that no one cares to send inspectors or verify that Israel doesnt have wmds?

[QUOTE=C47;36189670]So now they can launch nuclear missiles from anywhere. How is it again that no one cares to send inspectors or verify that Israel doesnt have wmds?[/QUOTE] They do have WMDs and we(USA) gave them to them

[QUOTE=DireAvenger;36189550]When will Israel finally realise that the entire world can't attack them because they're backed by the US, therefore they don't need all these nuclear weapons and extra territories?[/QUOTE] Because that's not true? Israel has been attacked before, even with US backing...

[QUOTE=-nesto-;36189728]They do have WMDs and we(USA) gave them to them[/QUOTE] lolno. They developed them using French technology.

[QUOTE=Zambies!;36189793]They developed them using French technology.[/QUOTE] While I'm not sure when they first got Nuclear Weapons, I do know that Israel got a bunch of Nuclear Weapons from South Africa (during the Apartheid boycott Israel was one of the only trading partners they had at the time).

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36183776]What the fuck does buying submarines have to do with being Jewish.[/QUOTE] They were cheap.

[QUOTE=Donman;36189889]While I'm not sure when they first got Nuclear Weapons, I do know that Israel got a bunch of Nuclear Weapons from South Africa (during the Apartheid boycott Israel was one of the only trading partners they had at the time).[/QUOTE] they got it around 1960ish.