The Marvel Symphonic Universe (Every Frame a Painting) - General

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfqkvwW2fs[/media] follow-up video [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEfQ_9DIItI[/media] the only recent marvel music i remember is probably ant man's theme

This is actually one of the few things that the videogame industry has picked up properly from older film industry. Simple and recognizable thematic music. To be fair, some games actually create overly complex music, but the music industry(thanks in part of Hanz Zimmer) has started created so many layers of different sound that a lot of music becomes jumbled or lost within it. They're doing too much and going over budget sound wise with what they have. [editline]12th September 2016[/editline] You can hum Halo, Medal of Honor Allied Assault, Uncharted, Mass Effect and more. You can't hum Marvel music or Interstellar.

[QUOTE=Swilly;51039589]This is actually one of the few things that the videogame industry has picked up properly from older film industry. Simple and recognizable thematic music. To be fair, some games actually create overly complex music, but the music industry(thanks in part of Hanz Zimmer) has started created so many layers of different sound that a lot of music becomes jumbled or lost within it. They're doing too much and going over budget sound wise with what they have. [editline]12th September 2016[/editline] You can hum Halo, Medal of Honor Allied Assault, Uncharted, Mass Effect and more. You can't hum Marvel music or Interstellar.[/QUOTE] I only watched Interstellar once, but I do remember parts of the music. I don't think Hans Zimmer is that interesting, but I think his music is more memorable (and his style is, for better or worse, unmistakable). Couldn't hum a Marvel soundtrack for the life of me, and I've watched a bunch of those. Kinda jives with my general opinion of Marvel movies - not bad, but pretty bland. Also OP, I just safety refreshed before posting my thread - cutting it close there. Edit: I mean just the main theme from Interstellar (which isn't just somewhere in the background during the movie) has a very recognizable melody: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDsCtDRV2uA[/url] Or the music during the docking: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3zvVGJrTP8[/url] Also, Hans Zimmer has probably produced some of the most recognizable music in recent film history: [video=youtube;27mB8verLK8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27mB8verLK8[/video]

I'm not actually blaming Hanz Zimmer, he's a fantastic composer.

[QUOTE=Swilly;51039646]I'm not actually blaming Hanz Zimmer, he's a fantastic composer.[/QUOTE] Sure, I just don't agree that his music jumbled his music completely, because the theme in Pirates is almost embarrassingly "in your face".

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;51039657]Sure, I just don't agree that his music jumbled his music completely, because the theme in Pirates is almost embarrassingly "in your face".[/QUOTE] That's a fair point.

every frame a painting doing a marvel video? did not expect that edit: and a bojack reference, dope

The only Marvel theme I can still think of is Iron Man's theme.

nerdwriter did a video earlier on how LOTR did music almost perfectly in tune with it's story. if you agreed with this video, check it out to see music done properly. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7BkmF8CJpQ[/media]

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;51039626]I only watched Interstellar once, but I do remember parts of the music. I don't think Hans Zimmer is that interesting, but I think his music is more memorable (and his style is, for better or worse, unmistakable). Couldn't hum a Marvel soundtrack for the life of me, and I've watched a bunch of those. Kinda jives with my general opinion of Marvel movies - not bad, but pretty bland. Also OP, I just safety refreshed before posting my thread - cutting it close there. Edit: I mean just the main theme from Interstellar (which isn't just somewhere in the background during the movie) has a very recognizable melody: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDsCtDRV2uA[/url] Or the music during the docking: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3zvVGJrTP8[/url] Also, Hans Zimmer has probably produced some of the most recognizable music in recent film history: [video=youtube;27mB8verLK8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27mB8verLK8[/video][/QUOTE] Did Hans even do the music for Pirates? I am fairly certain it was another guy.

[QUOTE=Gamerman12;51039796]nerdwriter did a video earlier on how LOTR did music almost perfectly in tune with it's story. if you agreed with this video, check it out to see music done properly.[/QUOTE] For people who breath music (A LOT of people), this kind of music integration can make the movie's rewatchability value skyrocket. I've watched every Lord of the Rings movie 3 times. First time when I was young, second time to remember the plot, and third time just to experience the atmosphere yet again. It's an absolute masterpiece. I also found myself replaying tracks from certain points in the movie numerous times even a month after rewatching it, just because it stuck in my head so well.

[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;51039738]The only Marvel theme I can still think of is Iron Man's theme.[/QUOTE] there's plenty of great examples from the first iron man that he could've used. i'll probably come off as a fanboy here, but the mark 1 song that syncs up with stark hammering on an anvil? the first flight song? even the score in the scene he used gets better as it builds up along with the scene itself

Man if they had asked me to hum a Marvel theme on the street I would have done Avengers' theme, Alan Silvestri. Pretty memorable in the scene where they're all back to back in New York at the end. [video=youtube;EAjyjbb-Kfw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAjyjbb-Kfw[/video] At 2 minutes. Admittedly it gets drowned out a bit in the mix, but at least the film had a theme with a bit of a melody that was actually used throughout different parts of the film. [video=youtube;8VGJGXMUhmc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VGJGXMUhmc[/video]

Marvel films definetely have a problem with music, but I dont think it's as big as people make it out to be. It seems it's mostly because they almost don't care about musical "brand recognition". Iron Man has an okay theme that's recognizable, but only since IM3 (that's 5 years after the MCU began, and he's still mostly the center of it). The Avengers have one (that's the one most people remember); the universe itself had a really good jingle, it was a bit like the 20th Century Fox one (same "this is something epic, you're privileged to see this" feel behind it), but it only appeared in 2013, was shown again in a few movies, than they changed it officially to something bland (yet still familiar sounding). [media]https://youtu.be/5oVR2OEI-ow[/media] [media]https://youtu.be/tXRJ7ozUJb0[/media]

I think on some level, building of my original point, is interesting to note that music had to work on multuple platforms worth different memory, processor and sound systems. This divergence forced early game conpsoers with the challenge to create iconic music that everyone could listen to. Doom's E1M1, which is clever homage to No Remorse by Metallica, works on several different sound systems. To properly get that you need to keep it as excitingly simple as possible. That's why is easy to make the song work with Sjeleton Trumpet. A similiar things occurs with Mechwarrior 2 and Command and Conquer music which were the first to use the mp format which at the time allowed for a higher musical fidelity, but you still had to contend with size limits.

[QUOTE=Intermission;51039869]Did Hans even do the music for Pirates? I am fairly certain it was another guy.[/QUOTE] It's apparently a bit more complicated: [QUOTE=Wikipedia]Composer Alan Silvestri was originally hired to write the score for The Curse of the Black Pearl. However, due to creative differences between the producer Jerry Bruckheimer and him, Silvestri left the project and Gore Verbinski asked Hans Zimmer, with whom he had worked on The Ring, to step in. Zimmer declined to do the bulk of the composing, as he was busy scoring The Last Samurai, a project during which he claimed he had promised not to take any other assignments. As a result, he referred Verbinski to Klaus Badelt,[3] a relatively new composer who had been a part of Remote Control Productions (known as Media Ventures at the time) for three years. Zimmer however ended up collaborating with Badelt to write most of the score's primary themes. Zimmer said he wrote most of the tunes in the space of one night,[4] and then recorded them in an all-synthesized demo credited to him. This demo presents three of the score's themes and motifs, concluding with an early version of "He's A Pirate" which differs from the final cue and includes a development of a melody Zimmer wrote for the score to Drop Zone. Since the schedule was very tight and the music was needed for the film in three weeks, seven other composers — Ramin Djawadi, James Dooley, Nick Glennie-Smith, Steve Jablonsky, Blake Neely, James McKee Smith, and Geoff Zanelli — were called upon to help orchestrate the music and write additional cues. The resulting score was recorded with a group of musicians, credited as the Hollywood Studio Symphony, over the course of four days. The short time frame demanded the use of a different recording studio for each session. The Metro Voices, a male choir, was recorded in London and added to the finished recordings. The soundtrack album, consisting of 43 minutes of the film's score, was released with Klaus Badelt credited as the composer. The cues were edited for length, and minor changes to the mix were also made. For unknown reasons, the mixing of several cues are executed with gain levels so high that it causes distortion. This is noticeable particularly during the action cues and the reprise of the love theme in track 14, "One Last Shot". It is also noted that besides the first two cues, the tracks' generic names were unrelated to their contents. According to the official website of composer Geoff Zanelli, this was because the production "schedule was so short that [they] had to decide on the track names for the album packaging before the score was even written!"[5] Badelt was credited as the conductor on early batches of the disc, but it was actually conducted by Blake Neely.[/QUOTE] Also explains why I couldn't find a version that didn't sound like shit.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5lmDMcmW6c[/media] this is fuckin great btw

My favourite track from the film [media]https://youtu.be/OV_IuELIiYE[/media]

It's a shame, because pre-cinematic universe Marvel had some absolutely fantastic scores: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qcJS_e2_hY[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DogbA6pmFzo[/media] I mean, granted they're both Danny Elfman, but you gotta hand it to him, he's got a knack for creating memorable scores. My problem with Hans Zimmer is not that he's a bad composer, but rather that people herald him as the greatest composer of this generation when a lot of his stuff is usually pretty unremarkable music. The Interstellar score is an exception, and I really liked what he did with it, but things like Inception just feel incredibly uninspired. I mean, just listen to Time: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxabLA7UQ9k[/media] It's 5 minutes of the same 4 notes repeating over and over getting louder and louder. There are so many contemporary composers like Michael Giacchino or Alexandre Desplat who create much more interesting and memorable music, and it's a shame they don't get the kind of recognition that Zimmer does.

[QUOTE=The Vman;51041346]My problem with Hans Zimmer is not that he's a bad composer, but rather that people herald him as the greatest composer of this generation when a lot of his stuff is usually pretty unremarkable music. The Interstellar score is an exception, and I really liked what he did with it, but things like Inception just feel incredibly uninspired. I mean, just listen to Time: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxabLA7UQ9k[/media] It's 5 minutes of the same 4 notes repeating over and over getting louder and louder. There are so many contemporary composers like Michael Giacchino or Alexandre Desplat who create much more interesting and memorable music, and it's a shame they don't get the kind of recognition that Zimmer does.[/QUOTE] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ0FQovU0Ws[/media] :v:

[QUOTE=Novangel;51041365][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne3dTZpPnBI[/media] :v:[/QUOTE] This video does not exist

[QUOTE=The Vman;51041387]This video does not exist[/QUOTE] Oops, fixed

[QUOTE=Novangel;51041400]Oops, fixed[/QUOTE] Oh god it's exactly what I'm talking about. It's so boooooring

[QUOTE=The Vman;51041431]Oh god it's exactly what I'm talking about. It's so boooooring[/QUOTE] It's almost 1:1 of Time too

Never heard about the term Temp Music until now, but that certainly explains why a lot of why a lot of current movie soundtracks nowadays sound so boring. Even The Room had a suprisingly more memorable theme attached to it. [video=youtube;NZfox7y8VAg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZfox7y8VAg[/video]

What really kills me is how stock the instrumentation is. Not every movie needs a full orchestra. I understand the big orchestra sound carries the weight of "epic" with it but there are other ways to convey that feeling. Maybe this?? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbu_yhiipKI[/media] [editline]12th September 2016[/editline] Hell, most of Birdman's score was a drum set solo and it turned out great: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTA9s5xH0X0[/media]

This theme was pretty memorable to me, if not very singable: [video=youtube;ZTuS_Qf5_jk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTuS_Qf5_jk[/video]

[QUOTE=Swilly;51039646]I'm not actually blaming Hanz Zimmer, he's a fantastic composer.[/QUOTE] Nah, Hans Zimmer is mostly imitative garbage.

not MCU technically but the XMEN theme is really memorable to me [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKIRcZCvUR8[/media]

[QUOTE=The Vman;51041346] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxabLA7UQ9k[/media] It's 5 minutes of the same 4 notes repeating over and over getting louder and louder. [/QUOTE] I honestly have no idea what you're talking about, "Time" is fucking amazing when you take the time to really listen to it. Of course, that's just my opinion, but I really can't see why someone would dislike it