Climate change PROVED to be 'nothing but a lie' by co-founder of Weather Channel
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[quote]John Coleman, who co-founded the Weather Channel, shocked academics by insisting the theory of man-made climate change was no longer scientifically credible.
Instead, what 'little evidence' there is for rising global temperatures points to a 'natural phenomenon' within a developing eco-system.
In an open letter attacking the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, he wrote: "The ocean is not rising significantly.
"The polar ice is increasing, not melting away. Polar Bears are increasing in number.
"Heat waves have actually diminished, not increased. There is not an uptick in the number or strength of storms (in fact storms are diminishing).
"I have studied this topic seriously for years. It has become a political and environment agenda item, but the science is not valid."[/quote]
[url]http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/526191/Climate-change-is-a-lie-global-warming-not-real-claims-weather-channel-founder[/url]
Even the Weather Channel has a political slant now? We're fucked.
So when do we get to see shows like honey boo boo and duck dynasty and stuff on the weather channel?
[QUOTE=SnakeHead;46307938]Even the Weather Channel has a political slant now? We're fucked.[/QUOTE]
The Weather Channel has been shit for a very long time now, since reality TV got big.
Sure 8 planet watching satelites over a 60 year period of continuous coverage plus thousands of weather stations recording temperature for over a hundred years and some for over 300 years. Yes all of that data pointing to a global trend of warming is meaningless because they have one piece of paper that says those libraries worth of data is wrong
I'm sure that an assessment made by hundreds of scientists in a competitive field where everyone's work is scrutinized by each other in order to give themselves an edge over other people would lead to a gigantic lie that thousands and thousands of people could maintain
That's some grade A hysteria
John Coleman has a journalism degree. He is not a scientist. Being co-founder of the Weather Channel gives him no credibility. He has maybe an ounce more credibility on the subject than someone like Rupert Murdoch. He is not a climatologist, or even a meteorologist, by degree. He is a Journalist.
And this is just a few examples of the us coverage
He literally just points to one paid for servey that says the effects predicted might be wrong without reading the conclusion that there is actual warming
The source he quotes even said there's global warming
Who cares, all this debate has turned out for the good imo. Developing new and more ideas to make everything in our life little more energy efficient and better for the environment. Its all around good for everyone even if the climate change is bull, its still always good to better our ways in reducing polluction in the air
The overwhelming majority of scientists, every major governmental body in the US, every scientific institution in the world, agree that anthropogenic climate change is a thing.
[QUOTE=mark6789;46307983]Who cares, all this debate has turned out for the good imo. Developing new and more ideas to make everything in our life little more energy efficient and better for the environment. Its all around good for everyone even if the climate change is bull, its still always good to better our ways in reducing polluction in the air[/QUOTE]
I know, its like breaking fingers to argue this but then you point out that cellphones would be bricks without battery and energy saving tech, GPS wouldn't work if not for the experience gained with the landsats, everything would be polluted to shit without environmental protections, the net gain from pushing green tech which is the one field we hold an edge over everybody else is huge but pointing that out in the debate just brings up a bunch of shrugs mumbles followed by more bullshit
We just have to wait until Russians declare they're fixing global warming before people in the U.S. actually give a shit.
[QUOTE=OvB;46308009]The overwhelming majority of scientists, every major governmental body in the US, every scientific institution in the world, agree that anthropogenic climate change is a thing.[/QUOTE]
The US Navy, even:
[quote]Navy Admiral Samuel J. Locklear III, in an interview at a Cambridge hotel Friday after he met with scholars at Harvard and Tufts universities, said significant upheaval related to the warming planet “is probably the most likely thing that is going to happen . . . that will cripple the security environment, probably more likely than the other scenarios we all often talk about.’’[/quote]
[url]http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/03/09/admiral-samuel-locklear-commander-pacific-forces-warns-that-climate-change-top-threat/BHdPVCLrWEMxRe9IXJZcHL/story.html[/url]
To be fair, there are some flaws with the theory of global warming, especially when you look at highs and lows for temperatures. Some of the records set for extreme high and low temperatures in areas have been set close to 100 years ago, before the ideas of climate change via human influence were even considered. Is it safe to say that there is climate change due to increased emissions from humans? Yes, but is it a 'warming' per say? not necessarily.
[QUOTE=skzerk;46308061]To be fair, there are some flaws with the theory of global warming, especially when you look at highs and lows for temperatures. Some of the records set for extreme high and low temperatures in areas have been set close to 100 years ago, before the ideas of climate change via human influence were even considered. Is it safe to say that there is climate change due to increased emissions from humans? Yes, but is it a 'warming' per say? not necessarily.[/QUOTE]
Anthroprogenic climate change was suggested in 1827. We understood the greenhouse effect before 1900. We understood the effect of what mass introduction of CO2 could do then, too.
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;46308025]We just have to wait until Russians declare they're fixing global warming before people in the U.S. actually give a shit.[/QUOTE]
For people anywhere to give a shit you need to show them how it benefits them.
Saving money is a good incentive to give a shit
Weather is not the same as climate.
Now, if he had co-founded the [I]climate[/I] channel, I'd be worried. Of course, such a channel would be dropped before they could even report any changes.
[QUOTE=OvB;46308108]Anthroprogenic climate change was suggested in 1827. We understood the greenhouse effect before 1900. We understood the effect of what mass introduction of CO2 could do then, too.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Cmx;46308142]For people anywhere to give a shit you need to show them how it benefits them.
Saving money is a good incentive to give a shit[/QUOTE]
Which is why we have this problem now: "hey, this could cause a problem" "eh, let the kids deal with it"
[QUOTE=skzerk;46308061]To be fair, there are some flaws with the theory of global warming, especially when you look at highs and lows for temperatures. Some of the records set for extreme high and low temperatures in areas have been set close to 100 years ago, before the ideas of climate change via human influence were even considered. Is it safe to say that there is climate change due to increased emissions from humans? Yes, but is it a 'warming' per say? not necessarily.[/QUOTE]
Do you know what an average is?
[QUOTE=skzerk;46308061]To be fair, there are some flaws with the theory of global warming[/QUOTE]
Global warming is one of the most widely accepted scientific theories
but whats with the picture of steam chimneys? is steam contributing to global warming? it is hot i suppose
[QUOTE=abcpea;46308848]but whats with the picture of steam chimneys? is steam contributing to global warming? it is hot i suppose[/QUOTE]
Water vapour is actually a really bad "greenhouse gas".
Even [I]if[/I] it does turn out that man-made climate change is a load of bollocks (which is pretty much a non-possibility unless everything we know about Earth's climate is wrong), it's not like we'd be going green for naught.
"Oh no, it seems that we were wrong about climate change! Now we've created jobs, created innovative new energy technology, changed from non-sustainable to sustainable methods of energy production and manufacturing, and cut down on the amount of pollution on the planet for nothing!"
Weather channel.
Why the fuck would you make a separate TV channel solely for weather forecasts?
[editline]23rd October 2014[/editline]
Unless it's about weather in name only.
[QUOTE=maxumym;46309255]Weather channel.
Why the fuck would you make a separate TV channel solely for weather forecasts?
[editline]23rd October 2014[/editline]
Unless it's about weather in name only.[/QUOTE]
because the internet didnt exist back then
if you wanted 24/7 weather you'd check the weather channel
[QUOTE]"The ocean is not rising significantly. [B]NO, tell that to Kiribati[/B]
"The polar ice is increasing, not melting away. Polar Bears are increasing in number. [B]NO[/B]
"Heat waves have actually diminished, not increased. There is not an uptick in the number or strength of storms (in fact storms are diminishing). [B]NO[/B]
"I have studied this topic seriously for years. It has become a political and environment agenda item, but the science is not valid."[B]NO on all three parts of this statement.[/B][/QUOTE]
also the weather channel makes for great background noise
Never trust the weather guy.
Man, i'm so dissapointed in these people.
i really wish that global warming wasn't real and that there wasn't anything to worry about. which is why i'm always rooting for these idiots to some day be correct for once.
But they're always wrong! they're always so stupid..
Most of the people here in Louisville, including my family, believes that climate change is a lie...
however for me, I don't really care much about this climate change because I don't know much about it nor give a shit.
Ask them again after the next tornado.
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