Hans Zimmer joins MasterClass online-program in teaching Film scoring in 2017
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[QUOTE]Hans Zimmer, one of the most prolific film composers of all time, will lead an internet course in writing music for the movies through startup MasterClass.
Pre-enrollment for Zimmer’s class, which will cost $90, opens Friday on the [URL="https://www.masterclass.com/classes/hans-zimmer-teaches-film-scoring"]MasterClass website[/URL]. The full class, slated to include more than 30 exclusive video lessons, will be available in January 2017.
The German composer, who had no formal musical training, has scored the soundtracks for more than 150 films including “The Lion King” — for which he won an Academy Award — as well as “Gladiator,” “Pirates of the Caribbean,” “The Dark Knight,” “Inception” and “Interstellar.” “My MasterClass is a way for me to show that bold ideas can come from anyone and all you need is a computer to make music. Maybe even just a phone!” Zimmer said in a prepared statement. “I hope my MasterClass helps people see they just need to break the rules and move their ideas forward. The rest is just technicalities.”
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[video=youtube;yCX1Ze3OcKo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCX1Ze3OcKo[/video]
The following are also to be found in this online program:
- Dustin Hoffman and Kevin Spacey for acting
- Deadmau5 for electronic music production
- Werner Herzog for filmmaking
- Aaron Sorking for screen-writing and some others
Excellent, Hans Zimmer is one of the greatest composers of our time.
Hans is one of those guys that have a talent that needs to be shared with others.
Neat that they're doing this but I'd be far more interested in a masterclass from Howard Shore. Zimmer has a knack for epic soundtracks but there's hardly any serious development, and it usually tends towards more atmospheric writing compared to soundtracks from Williams and Shore. He doesn't know what a melody is.
[QUOTE=Smoovedawg1;51400659]Excellent, Hans Zimmer is one of the greatest composers of our time.
Hans is one of those guys that have a talent that needs to be shared with others.[/QUOTE]
He's okay
Will he teach the audience the lucrative craft of slightly altering one another's orchestral scores and recycling them for every recent blockbuster ever?
$90 as a per-enrollment deposit or is going going to be $90 full time.
Seems pretty interesting, might be a good thing to do in my free time.
I actually think its wonderful that this film legend is helping people learn to make the same three songs over and over.
[QUOTE=croguy;51400701]Will he teach the audience the lucrative craft of slightly altering one another's orchestral scores and recycling them for every recent blockbuster ever?[/QUOTE]
that's the demanded standard from studios, scoring for films isn't worth learning if the director just gives you a temp track for every part of the film.
Would be fun to learn film scoring but I wouldn't care to apply for a job unless it's some indie film that wants to go the route of some talent then the crap peddled out now.
[QUOTE=cdr248;51400674]He's okay[/QUOTE]
Nah he's better than okay. He wrote so many timeless film music tracks. Many of his soundtracks were ahead of their time, or have directly inspired countless composers in the following years.
[QUOTE=Loadingue;51400741]Nah he's better than okay. He wrote so many timeless film music tracks. Many of his soundtracks were ahead of their time, or have directly inspired countless composers in the following years.[/QUOTE]
Nothing "ahead of their time" about anything he's done ever. If he's inspired anyone it isn't for the better of film scoring.
Doesn't he usually have a whole team under him who do majority of the work? Pretty sure there was a docu about how he does things when john carpenter visited his studio.
[QUOTE=ColossalSoft;51400720]I actually think its wonderful that this film legend is helping people learn to make the same three songs over and over.[/QUOTE]
Oh come on. He has more to offer than 3 songs. He has made some of the most memorable soundtracks in our time. Pirates of the Caribbean, Dark Knight, Inception, Gladiator, Interstellar are very diverse.
I do think that he has stagnated with the past few movies though. Doesn't make his older songs bad.
I don't really give a shit about the Zimmer class. The Herzog course is an entirely different story...
How to make Inception bwong's like a pro.
[QUOTE=Antimuffin;51400758]Oh come on. He has more to offer than 3 songs. He has made some of the most memorable soundtracks in our time. Pirates of the Caribbean, Dark Knight, Inception, Gladiator are very diverse.
I do think that he has stagnated with the past few movies though. Doesn't make his older songs bad.[/QUOTE]
He's not bad he's just bland.
[QUOTE=croguy;51400701]Will he teach the audience the lucrative craft of slightly altering one another's orchestral scores and recycling them for every recent blockbuster ever?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ColossalSoft;51400720]I actually think its wonderful that this film legend is helping people learn to make the same three songs over and over.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ntag;51400751]Nothing "ahead of their time" about anything he's done ever. If he's inspired anyone it isn't for the better of film scoring.[/QUOTE]
Can someone explain what's going on here? These reactions seem really disproportionate.
[QUOTE=Ntag;51400751]Nothing "ahead of their time" about anything he's done ever. If he's inspired anyone it isn't for the better of film scoring.[/QUOTE]
Here come the naysayers pretending he's "not that great".
You're wrong. Check out his score for Black Rain (1989), where his use of electronic beats was definitely ahead of his time. His score for Pirates of the Caribbean and Interstellar have also inspired many, many pirate and space-related films [I]and[/I] games. If you haven't noticed, you probably don't care.
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;51400779]Can someone explain what's going on here? These reactions seem really disproportionate.[/QUOTE]
Hans Zimmer is a boring as fuck composer imo.
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[QUOTE=Loadingue;51400787]Here come the naysayers pretending he's "not that great".
You're wrong. Check out his score for Black Rain (1989), where his use of electronic beats was definitely ahead of his time. His score for Pirates of the Caribbean and Interstellar have also inspired many, many pirate and space-related films [I]and[/I] games. If you haven't noticed, you probably don't care.[/QUOTE]
A handful of good scores out of 100's of projects doesn't look too good in my eyes.
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;51400767]How to make Inception bwong's like a pro.[/QUOTE]
IIRC Hans Zimmer wasn't the one who invented that bwong in the trailer.
[editline]20th November 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;51400788]A handful of good scores out of 100's of projects doesn't look too good in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
That's how a lot of famous musicians work (if we even admit you're right). Even if you make one memorable piece, that's enough to be considered good. But Zimmer has made a lot of great soundtracks.
I'm reminded of this video, and one specific clip where Danny Elfman talks about temp music. The reason most tracks in general, including his, are generic because of temp music, and how directors want the musicians to basically copy either their previous works or someone elses work.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfqkvwW2fs[/media]
See 6:06 for context. I feel this may be one reason why Zimmer has lost his credibility, because of the people controlling him. You've gotta remember that regardless how much people call it generic, he still created the original. It's just that people want him to re-do that instead of it coming naturally.
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;51400779]Can someone explain what's going on here? These reactions seem really disproportionate.[/QUOTE]
He is a good composer that really has his moments in which he creates a memorable piece of music while at other times he just seems to repeat the same creativity process over two different movies which nets you a score that sounds a whole lot like something he did before (aka it gets bland)
[video=youtube;ph1Sn3li54I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph1Sn3li54I[/video]
[video=youtube;o_Ay_iDRAbc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Ay_iDRAbc[/video]
[video=youtube;sOcP3i-zm-s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOcP3i-zm-s[/video]
[QUOTE=Loadingue;51400798]IIRC Hans Zimmer wasn't the one who invented that bwong in the trailer.
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That's how a lot of famous musicians work (if we even admit you're right). Even if you make one memorable piece, that's enough to be considered good. But Zimmer has made a lot of great soundtracks.[/QUOTE]
it was an accidental discovery, Christopher nolan wanted him to re-write a song slowed way down.
[video=youtube;UVkQ0C4qDvM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVkQ0C4qDvM[/video]
[QUOTE=Ntag;51400672]Neat that they're doing this but I'd be far more interested in a masterclass from Howard Shore. Zimmer has a knack for epic soundtracks but there's hardly any serious development, and it usually tends towards more atmospheric writing compared to soundtracks from Williams and Shore. He doesn't know what a melody is.[/QUOTE]
Also to be honest, I don't think Howard Shore is that great. In the last films I've seen that he's scored, some songs were really hit or miss.
Though no question about John Williams, he's the best ever.
Hans zimmer is up there with the best
[QUOTE=Loadingue;51400787]Here come the naysayers pretending he's "not that great".
You're wrong. Check out his score for Black Rain (1989), where his use of electronic beats was definitely ahead of his time. His score for Pirates of the Caribbean and Interstellar have also inspired many, many pirate and space-related films [I]and[/I] games. If you haven't noticed, you probably don't care.[/QUOTE]
No idea how Black Rain's soundtrack is anything special. Musically there is nothing new or attention grabbing about anythign he has. Doesn't matter if that one tune from Pirates is catchy, it's hardly innovative in any way, shape or form.
Look at Hermann (psycho, vertigo etc), Bernstein (west side story), Shore (lord of the rings, granted hte rest of his stuff isn't the best) or hell even Shostakovich and Florent Schmitt for good film music. John Williams is another giant. Despite the fact he plagarised half of his soundtracks from Korngold, Stravinsky and Holst, he still does a fantastic job of creating arresting and exciting music.
Rule of thumb: your countries composer is always better than the other countries composer
[QUOTE=Ntag;51400751]Nothing "ahead of their time" about anything he's done ever. If he's inspired anyone it isn't for the better of film scoring.[/QUOTE]
This fucking hate boner holy shit. What the hell is your guys' problem? The guy made universally acclaimed music and now wants to share some of his knowledge with others. I feel part of the hate is just because he's popular.
Can I get a Johann Johannsson masterclass? I would be down with that.
[QUOTE=milktree;51400834]This fucking hate boner holy shit. What the hell is your guys' problem? The guy made universally acclaimed music and now wants to share some of his knowledge with others.[/QUOTE]
I think they just don't really like his music and therefor they think the guy is "fucking bullshit holy shit how can anyone be so bad as Zimmer it sounds like cancer", the guy has composed 179 songs, tv shows and games so that he made a few shit tracks comes to no surprise
[QUOTE=milktree;51400834]This fucking hate boner holy shit. What the hell is your guys' problem? The guy made universally acclaimed music and now wants to share some of his knowledge with others. I feel part of the hate is just because he's popular.[/QUOTE]
I just don't like him because I think he is (usually) a boring composer. Yes he does have some good scores here and there, but nothing we haven't heard before.
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