A new musician desperately trying to get publicity
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I recently started producing music under the name "Renin" and am trying to get at least a little bit of a fan base for me to get my feet off the ground.
[b]I bestow upon Facepunch a simple task; listen to my music, subscribe, tell friends, and for the love of god donate! I have absolutely no money for new software or equipment, so every penny counts.[/b]
First off, drop by my Last.FM page.
It's where all of my music will be uploaded.
>> [url]http://www.last.fm/music/Renin[/url]
Then, go to my official blog.
It's still under construction,
but I wouldn't mind a few comments
or subscribers to let me know
I'm not alone in the world. :\
>> [url]http://www.reninmusic.com/[/url]
I'm still just a beginner but I have confidence that I will improve at a quick pace over the next few weeks, and I hope to have a substantial fan base within a few months.
:siren: [b]IMPORTANT: It doesn't even matter if you like the music. Just click the play button once for my sake. Post a link on your Facebook/MySpace/etc. If you really couldn't care less about me then at least leave a reply to this thread to keep it alive. Every little thing matters.[/b] :siren:
[release][b]Currently asking donations for...[/b][list]
[*]Space upgrade on blog needed for uploading music
[*]Domain hosting
[*][highlight]Upgrade to Ableton Live 8 Suite[/highlight]
[*][highlight]Upgrade to M-AUDIO Axiom 61 MIDI Keyboard[/highlight]
[*]VST Plugins[/list][/release]I know I'll get some really wonderful help out of you guys. So, in advance, [b]thank you so much.[/b]
Why are you so "desperate?" If you don't have any money, get a real job.
It seems like you're more interested in being famous than making music, which is fine I guess, but you're not going to get there by begging. Try coming up with some weird gimmick, like wearing funny glasses or a mouse head, to get people to pay attention to you.
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Also, there's no reason you have to have your own website and hosting (other than self-aggrandizement). It'll just piss people off as they try to figure out where to find your songs. There's plenty of websites geared toward musicians, like Bandcamp and Facebook.
The moment I opened this thread I knew that this was something made in FL Studio. Not that there would be anything bad about it, but like TH89 said, you need to make yourself pop out.
Now you're just another FL Studio user amongst millions of others.
I have a job. I make about $1100/m after taxes. All of which goes to rent and living expenses. I've been trying to get a better job but the economy's not making it easy for me or millions of other people.
And as you said, I'm much more interested in reaching a large audience than I am in making money. :3
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@ Hullu V3: It's Ableton, not FL Studio.
Honestly you're not going to get noticed if you're just starting. To get real recognition from just the internet you're going to need to make really really good music that makes people want to pass it on to others.
The real way most bands/artists get recognition is by becoming local and playing live. You have a lot better chance at becoming locally known than being known on the internet. Many famous bands such as Black Sabbath became well known because they captured the appeal of their local community, and the community that they captured just kept growing and growing until they started to get noticed by record companies. But beyond that, record companies look for people who are able to move a crowd playing live. If Black Sabbath didn't get a reaction with the crowd, the record companies wouldn't be interested in them.
I heard the music you made in your last thread and you really need to go beyond the point of being a beginner to start getting serious about making music. You're not going to advanced past beginner in the next couple of months, you may find it easier to use the software and make songs that sound like songs, but you're still in a beginner phase. For you to get a fan base of more than a few people isn't going to happen very quickly at all.
I recently made an album and I'm content with the 20-30 views I've been getting on it per week and the 33 downloaded songs.
I'm not trying to get you down or anything, but what I'm saying is that you're going to need to spend a lot of time making music, and trying to make good music before getting any recognition. Even then, you won't get much, but if pump out quality work, over a period of time people will start to take interest.
Oh, trust me I'll be reaching out to the local community. I have a few ideas in mind but the internet is actually a much better place to start than you may think.
[b]P.S.[/b]
Comparing modern music to Black Sabbath as far as getting publicity and reaching a worldwide audience is virtually irrelevant. The music industry has evolved immensely in recent years, and we now live in a world with the technology and resources for anyone to create, share, and distribute their own music freely and with relative ease.
[QUOTE=Matix;24893927]Oh, trust me I'll be reaching out to the local community. I have a few ideas in mind but the internet is actually a much better place to start than you may think.
[b]P.S.[/b]
Comparing modern music to Black Sabbath as far as getting publicity and reaching a worldwide audience is virtually irrelevant. The music industry has evolved immensely in recent years, and we now live in a world with the technology and resources for anyone to create, share, and distribute their own music freely and with relative ease.[/QUOTE]
But do understand that you can't get publicity if you don't stand out from the majority.
You don't seem to realize that there are thousands and thousands of artist trying to get noticed on the web. If someone isn't interested in what you're making within the first couple of seconds they are likely to move on without a second thought. The fact that anyone can make and distribute music is more of a disadvantaged to you more than anything.
Again, I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm just trying to lower your expectations.
If you look at the CC, you'll find that average work does not get attention. Terrible music has a much bigger chance at grabbing attention as opposed to decently music.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;24894042]But do understand that you can't get publicity if you don't stand out from the majority.[/QUOTE]
If you mean stand out as in make way better quality music than others then yes. To stand by being original as in totally different than other types of music isn't likely to happen at all.
[QUOTE=Matix;24893456]I'm still just a beginner but I have confidence that I will improve at a quick pace over the next few weeks, and I hope to have a substantial fan base within a few months.[/QUOTE]
You've got your heads in the clouds.
I took a listen to your music, and while it's not [I]bad[/I], it's not really anything outstanding. You're not going to advance beyond beginner in the next few months. In fact, it could take you a year or two before your work really starts to stand out, and that's if you're making music on a regular basis, and constantly testing and experimenting yourself on what you make and how you make it.
Don't set yourself up to believe that you're going to have that substantial fan base within a few months, you might as well be setting yourself up for disappointment. Everyone wants to reach a wider audience, but it's only worth it if you're actually enjoying what you're doing. That's why you should be making music: Because you enjoy it.
If you [I]really absolutely[/I] have to reach a larger audience, I can offer one suggestion for you. Keep your eye on [url=http://www.projectwonderful.com/]Project Wonderful[/url]. It's an advertising service (banner/skyscraper ads), but they do amazing rates, and you only pay for the time that your ad is visible. Read up on how it works when it's available (down at time of posting), it's worth looking into.
@ Hullu V3: I'm very aware that I need to "stand out", and I'm very aware that I have yet to do that. That's kind of obvious.
@ Pepin: I never said it would be easy. There's a difference between having high hopes and having high expectations.
@ 3noneTwo: I agree with you that my work isn't outstanding, as I acknowledged above, but I think your judgement about the rate at which I can improve is kind of unfair. Just because it may have take [b]you[/b] or somebody you know that long, doesn't mean the rest of us don't have a perfectly good chance at improving rapidly. Thank you for the ad campaign suggestion, however. :)
I'm Honestly Content with your Music.
But doing this seems a little stupid :/
Maybe get booked in a night club, Your music sounds like a MTV advert soundtrack, maybe find a company that needs to make an ad for their product and offer it for them cheap (1-200, I dunno I never did it) that will buy some publicity. :>
You're not very good...
So basically, minimal=untalented?
No, bad=bad
"Just because it may have take [B]you[/B] or somebody you know that long, doesn't mean the rest of us don't have a perfectly good chance at improving rapidly"
Every human is like this. First of all, there is a slight possibility that you are "the chosen one", who becomes awesome in a whim, doesn't mean you are. Slight possibility is the exact opposite of that. It's just being human, but the thing is, when you may not be popular within a month, don't be crushed. Keep working.
Dress like a boy(ish) and song like a girl it's a sure fire way,
I mean look at good ol' Bieber.
Really your music sounds like a night club music, you know the ones that you hate and just want to listen to something else while dancing with other men and women. Really again try and book a gig. :/
AND MAKE BETTER MUSIC
[QUOTE=Matix;24899240]@ 3noneTwo: I agree with you that my work isn't outstanding, as I acknowledged above, but I think your judgement about the rate at which I can improve is kind of unfair. Just because it may have take [B]you[/B] or somebody you know that long, doesn't mean the rest of us don't have a perfectly good chance at improving rapidly. Thank you for the ad campaign suggestion, however. :) [/QUOTE]
What I said wasn't meant to be directed at you harshly/unfairly! I don't know how long you've been making music for, or how much time you dedicate to making it. However, I do think that stating just how quickly you aim to improve in music is rather bold in itself. It's not exactly something you can gauge. :B
That said, I'm speaking from both experience and observation. I've been making music with a tracker since 2001, and I wasn't confident in my work until 2006. My partner has been making music in Reason for easily three or four years now (plus a couple of years in FL Studio), and while I've enjoyed his work regardless, it wasn't until sometime mid-2009 that his music really started to shine. And then there's everyone from the tracker forum I used to frequent — Some are worlds away from where I remember their work being, others are still doing the same old things they've always done.
By all means, prove me wrong. I'd be more than delighted to witness an artist improve dramatically! Just be aware that there's always the chance that, hey, maybe you [I]will[/I] take longer to improve than you thought.
(I know that whole paragraph reads sarcastically, but I'm being sincere)
As for advertising, you're welcome! [URL="http://www.projectwonderful.com/"]Project Wonderful[/URL] appears to be working now, give it a read-through if you haven't already done so.
Pretty good, but a little boring and repetitive.
Some of you have pretty quick judgements when I've only made 2 songs that I actually put effort into, but I agree that they really aren't all that great. I just need some time to improve, like anybody would. I just don't think I need as much time as some of you may think.
I really don't mind having people that doubt me; it'll make it more fun now that I have people to prove wrong.
I expected more, you basicly put more effort into the thread than the music :colbert:
There is so many musicians out there on the forums everywhere which deserve more but still don't get what they deserve, and yet you crawl up with this generic non really special thing and want desperate support.
And stop saying that we make quick judgements because you only show us some small non great work and you also wanted judgement, show us something amazing by you! Maybe your best song then we can judge in which direction your musician skills go.
If several people claim that your music isn't special or it isn't good, it's probably best to release your music for free until you get better reception.
Right now I'm not releasing my music at all. I just want people to listen to it.
And this is all I've made so far, so I can't really show you anything else until I make it. I'm working on something right now but it still sounds generic, so I'll probably trash it.
Just because it sounds generic doesn't mean you should trash it. Trying to be unique should not be the goal in my opinion, the goal should be to shape the music to how you want it. If you can craft the music in your head to real music, then that's music that came from you. I am one who believes that uniqueness doesn't come from a person trying to be unique, yet instead a person just doing what they believe is best.
[QUOTE=Pepin;24932272]Just because it sounds generic doesn't mean you should trash it. Trying to be unique should not be the goal in my opinion, the goal should be to shape the music to how you want it. If you can craft the music in your head to real music, then that's music that came from you. I am one who believes that uniqueness doesn't come from a person trying to be unique, yet instead a person just doing what they believe is best.[/QUOTE]
This.
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