Arctic expert predicts final collapse of sea ice within four years. - Polidicks

[quote] [h=1]Arctic expert predicts final collapse of sea ice within four years[/h]As sea ice shrinks to record lows, Prof Peter Wadhams warns a 'global disaster' is now unfolding in northern latitudes [quote] ========================== [IMG]http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Education/Pix/pictures/2012/9/13/1347549734138/Why-is-the-sea-ice-in-the-010.jpg[/IMG] ------------------------ Prof Peter Wadhams calls for “urgent” consideration of new ideas to reduce global temperatures. Photograph: John Mcconnico/AP ========================== [/quote] One of the world's leading ice experts has predicted the final collapse of Arctic sea ice in summer months within four years. In what he calls a "global disaster" now unfolding in northern latitudes as the sea area that freezes and melts each year shrinks to its lowest extent ever recorded, Prof Peter Wadhams of Cambridge University calls for "urgent" consideration of new ideas to reduce global temperatures. In an email to the Guardian he says: "Climate change is no longer something we can aim to do something about in a few decades' time, and that we must not only urgently reduce CO2 emissions but must urgently examine other ways of slowing global warming, such as the various geoengineering ideas that have been put forward." These include reflecting the sun's rays back into space, making clouds whiter and seeding the ocean with minerals to absorb more CO2. Wadhams has spent many years collecting ice thickness data from submarines passing below the arctic ocean. He predicted the imminent break-up of sea ice in summer months in 2007, when the previous lowest extent of 4.17 million square kilometres was set. This year, it has unexpectedly plunged a further 500,000 sq km to less than 3.5m sq km. "I have been predicting [the collapse of sea ice in summer months] for many years. The main cause is simply global warming: as the climate has warmed there has been less ice growth during the winter and more ice melt during the summer. "At first this didn't [get] noticed; the summer ice limits slowly shrank back, at a rate which suggested that the ice would last another 50 years or so. But in the end the summer melt overtook the winter growth such that the entire ice sheet melts or breaks up during the summer months. "This collapse, I predicted would occur in 2015-16 at which time the summer Arctic (August to September) would become ice-free. The final collapse towards that state is now happening and will probably be complete by those dates". Wadhams says the implications are "terrible". "The positives are increased possibility of Arctic transport, increased access to Arctic offshore oil and gas resources. The main negative is an acceleration of global warming." "As the sea ice retreats in summer the ocean warms up (to 7C in 2011) and this warms the seabed too. The continental shelves of the Arctic are composed of offshore permafrost, frozen sediment left over from the last ice age. As the water warms the permafrost melts and releases huge quantities of trapped methane, a very powerful greenhouse gas so this will give a big boost to global warming." ============= Source: [URL]http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/sep/17/arctic-collapse-sea-ice?cat=environment&type=article[/URL] [/quote] [quote] [quote] ========================== [IMG]http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/04/16/ArcticIceCap_1980_2012_620x350.jpg[/IMG] ------------------------ A NASA study published last January in the Journal of Climate shows that the oldest and thickest Arctic sea ice is disappearing at a faster rate than the younger, thinner ice at the edges of the Arctic Ocean's floating ice cap. Images show the ice cap in 1980 and in 2012. (Credit: NASA) ========================== [/quote] ============= Source: [URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57414522/as-arctic-ice-cap-melts-a-new-cold-war/[/URL] [/quote] :suicide:

Conservatives are gonna be counting the days until when it's supposed to happen, and then get all happy when it doesn't just like all the other predictions that never come true

He's an expert in ice. [B]ICE![/B] Is that seriously what he wanted to do with his life? [B]LOOK OUT LADS, WE GOT A CUNT DISINTEGRATING ICE EXPERT HERE![/B]

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;37732871]He's an expert in ice. [B]ICE![/B] Is that seriously what he wanted to do with his life? [B]LOOK OUT LADS, WE GOT A CUNT DISINTEGRATING ICE EXPERT HERE![/B][/QUOTE] Considering that the Earths surface is mainly water, and that Ice is the solid state of water.. Studying Ice is an important factor in climatology and meteorology, let alone things like marine biology.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;37732871]He's an expert in ice. [B]ICE![/B] Is that seriously what he wanted to do with his life? [B]LOOK OUT LADS, WE GOT A CUNT DISINTEGRATING ICE EXPERT HERE![/B][/QUOTE] Bet his degree means a fuck of a lot more than anything you've done with your life.

[QUOTE=Bradyns;37732884]Considering that the Earths surface is mainly water, and that Ice is the solid state of water.. Studying Ice is an important factor in climatology and meteorology, let alone things like marine biology.[/QUOTE] I know, but couldn't he have picked a better topic involving water besides ice. Like, water, or fish, or something that lives on the ice?

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;37732896]I know, but couldn't he have picked a better topic involving water besides ice. Like, water, or fish, or something that lives on the ice?[/QUOTE] Ok, that's swell, guy. Now onto ignoring this idiotic derailment of this thread only 2 replies in and talking about the actual topic of the article.

[QUOTE=Paradox621;37732894]Bet his degree means a fuck of a lot more than anything you've done with your life.[/QUOTE] I took a bullet in the shoulder and watched one of my best friends die in a backwater hellhole desert. Yeah, this ice expert has definitely saved the world with his knowledge of ice.

worlds gonna end in 2016 what do we do

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;37732938]I took a bullet in the shoulder and watched one of my best friends die in a backwater hellhole desert. Yeah, this ice expert has definitely saved the world with his knowledge of ice.[/QUOTE] What are you doing?

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;37732992]What are you doing?[/QUOTE] I did two tours in Afghanistan, mate. How do you think I was able to skip the five year wait to become nationalized?

Those aren't even photographs. They're CGI. And arctic sea ice melts in summer months, just like ice does everywhere else on the planet.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;37732998]I did two tours in Afghanistan, mate. How do you think I was able to skip the five year wait to become nationalized?[/QUOTE] Way to pull the guilt card, but it doesn't change the fact that your post was idiotic.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;37732938]I took a bullet in the shoulder and watched one of my best friends die in a backwater hellhole desert. Yeah, this ice expert has definitely saved the world with his knowledge of ice.[/QUOTE] Did you know that ice can melt? Well it does, and when all that ice at the pole melts, you can say goodbye to anything near a coast. To me it means a fuck ton more that he is studying something that can fuck us over royally as a species, then you fighting in a war. (no offense to any vets except you)

[QUOTE=Rastadogg5;37733036]Way to pull the guilt card, but it doesn't change the fact that your post was idiotic.[/QUOTE] Yeah sorry, I was a little drunk, I sobered up now. Now what was this whole thing about, ice caps, or something? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("PUI" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Ridge;37733023]Those aren't even photographs. They're CGI. And arctic sea ice melts in summer months, just like ice does everywhere else on the planet.[/QUOTE] The image on the left is ice cover in 1980, the image on the right is the ice cover at the same time this year.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;37732998]I did two tours in Afghanistan, mate. How do you think I was able to skip the five year wait to become nationalized?[/QUOTE] No, I mean, what are you doing? I honestly don't understand why you're bringing this up. We've got here an article about an arctic specialist who's reporting his findings on the stability of the arctic shelf, and you come in and start spilling dreck about how you've contributed more to society for having been shot? Who cares, dude? I mean, I appreciate your service and everything, and I was army as well, but this is offensively pointless. It's childish and petty, and you're really negatively representing yourself, and veterans everywhere, by acting this way.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;37733047]Yeah sorry, I was a little drunk, I sobered up now. Now what was this whole thing about, ice caps, or something?[/QUOTE] Did that count as PUI, then?

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;37733047]Yeah sorry, I was a little drunk, I sobered up now. Now what was this whole thing about, ice caps, or something?[/QUOTE] How did you sober up in 6 minutes?

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;37733080]No, I mean, what are you doing? I honestly don't understand why you're bringing this up. We've got here an article about an arctic specialist who's reporting his findings on the stability of the arctic shelf, and you come in and start spilling dreck about how you've contributed more to society for having been shot? Who cares, dude? I mean, I appreciate your service and everything, and I was army as well, but this is offensively pointless. It's childish and petty, and you're really negatively representing yourself, and veterans everywhere by acting this way.[/QUOTE] Sorry, mate, as I've already said, I was still a little buzzed. One of my mates wound up saying some stuff and telling me to type it, and being buzzed, I didn't know any better. I can snip it and replace it with a picture of a cat if you want. I'm going to bed, now. Have to work in the morning.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;37733047]Yeah sorry, I was a little drunk, I sobered up now. Now what was this whole thing about, ice caps, or something?[/QUOTE] I believe you're not acquainted with a good friend of mine [IMG]http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/sp/image/1345/44/1345447406474.gif[/IMG]

Holy shit this is depressing. I was giving it at least 15 years but within [i]four[/i] fucking years? Jesus.

[QUOTE=Ridge;37733023]Those aren't even photographs. They're CGI. And arctic sea ice melts in summer months, just like ice does everywhere else on the planet.[/QUOTE] hey look it's another thing you clearly don't know about

Well i don't care,only coastal countries will suffer some damage. It might even make oceans more easy to desalinate!

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;37732998]I did two tours in Afghanistan, mate. How do you think I was able to skip the five year wait to become nationalized?[/QUOTE] Oh, look out guys, we've got a military bad ass over here. Get out. OT: I thought it was at least 15 years as well. Seems to be speeding up exponentially?

[img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120409005752/evangelion/images/6/6d/Second_impact.png[/img] Second impact has arrived

Too bad there's nothing we can do about it. Climate change has happened many times before in Earth's history and oh look, we're a few thousand years over schedule for it to happen again. Most of the earth's warming happened in 1980 to 2010 which is the times when we started noticing that pumping carbon into the air probably isn't a good thing and started cutting down and making windmills ect so either those measures are completely ineffective and useless OR it's not entirely us that is changing the climate and actually isn't much of us compared to what you read all the time. Most people don't seem to understand that having ice caps isn't normal, the earth goes through various periods of hot and cold. While it's in the middle where it spends most of its time there is no polar ice caps so we aren't actually in the 'default/normal' state right now which would be no ice caps and we're overdue for losing the ice caps, they normally get lost earlier than this in an ice age.

[QUOTE=Scrappa;37733241]Too bad there's nothing we can do about it. Climate change has happened many times before in Earth's history and oh look, we're a few thousand years over schedule for it to happen again. Most of the earth's warming happened in 1980 to 2010 which is the times when we started noticing that pumping carbon into the air probably isn't a good thing and started cutting down and making windmills ect so either those measures are completely ineffective and useless OR it's not entirely us that is changing the climate and actually isn't much of us compared to what you read all the time. Most people don't seem to understand that having ice caps isn't normal, the earth goes through various periods of hot and cold. While it's in the middle where it spends most of its time there is no polar ice caps so we aren't actually in the 'default/normal' state right now which would be no ice caps and we're overdue for losing the ice caps, they normally get lost earlier than this in an ice age.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.planetseed.com/files/uploadedimages/Science/Earth_Science/Global_Climate_Change_and_Energy/Related_Articles/carbon_dioxide(1).jpg[/IMG] is it just me that's seeing a noticeable pattern in this graph We're responsible for this, silly. the CO2 levels in our atmosphere doesn't just spontaneously rise by around 100 ppm.

global warming is a hoax guys riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?

[QUOTE=Petrussen;37733294][IMG]http://www.planetseed.com/files/uploadedimages/Science/Earth_Science/Global_Climate_Change_and_Energy/Related_Articles/carbon_dioxide(1).jpg[/IMG] is it just me that's seeing a noticeable pattern in this graph the CO2 levels in our atmosphere doesn't just spontaneously rise by around 100 ppm.[/QUOTE] bro, volcanoes, you know those carbon dioxide/methane releasing monstrous motherfuckers? seriously that Icelandic volcano released more co2 in one eruptions than we have in the last 50 years! We're responsible for this, silly.