I For One Welcome Our New Bacteria Overlords - Polidicks

[quote]Unless immediate action is taken, the world is headed for a post-antibiotic era where infections that were once treatable will turn deadly, according to a landmark report from the World Health Organization. The report, issued Wednesday, says that antibiotics resistance is found in all parts of the world and can affect anyone of any age in any country. Antibiotics resistance, which the WHO says occurs when bacteria change and antibiotics no longer work against infections, “is now a major threat to public health.” For some infections, such as bacteria-related diarrhea or urinary tract infections, “we really are beginning to run out of medicines that can be taken by mouth.” This means patients require treatment in hospital, Fukuda said. Not only will some infections simply become “untreatable,” but antibiotics will also become ineffective at preventing infections in people with compromised immune systems: cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, premature babies and elderly patients undergoing joint replacements, he said. Highlights from the report: The agency found widespread resistance to the treatment of last resort for life-threatening infections caused by Klebsiella pneumoniae, a common intestinal bacteria. K. pneumoniae is responsible for a number of hospital-acquired infections, including pneumonia, bloodstream infections, and infections in newborns and patients in intensive care. In some countries, the treatment of last resort for K. pneumoniae infections -- carbapenem antibiotics -- would not work in more than half of patients. Resistance to fluoroquinolones, the most widely used antibiotic to treat urinary tract infections caused by E. coli, is “very widespread.” In some countries this treatment is ineffective in more than half of patients. Resistance to the treatment of last resort for gonorrhea -- third generation cephalosporins -- has been found in Canada, Australia, the U.K., Japan, South Africa, Norway, Sweden and parts of Eastern and Western Europe. Each day, more than one million people contract gonorrhea around the world, the WHO says.[/quote] Source: [url]http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/world-headed-for-dangerous-post-antibiotic-era-who-warns-in-landmark-report-1.1799018[/url] Well it's been a good run everybody, see you all in the hospital

[quote] Each day, more than one million people contract gonorrhea around the world, the WHO says.[/quote] An ad executive just found the perfect pitch.

Sooo does it help that most of my life I never take any meds unless absolutely necessary? Or will other people's bacteria just screw me over?

[QUOTE=Kaios;44701130]Sooo does it help that most of my life I never take any meds unless absolutely necessary? Or will other people's bacteria just screw me over?[/QUOTE] Probably the second part if you still live in HK. Density and all.

Well unless we make different anti biotics i guess its gg

good thing I have a gas mask at the ready

Guess this means I should just stay in my parent's basement if I want to live.

There [I]are[/I] too many people on the planet right now... Plus now all those anti-vaccine people will die off for sure

[QUOTE=Kaios;44701130]Sooo does it help that most of my life I never take any meds unless absolutely necessary? Or will other people's bacteria just screw me over?[/QUOTE] you're doing your part, its all the idiots that are overusing and abusing them that's screwing over everyone else

[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;44701197]There [I]are[/I] too many people on the planet right now... Plus now all those anti-vaccine people will die off for sure[/QUOTE] Yeah we need a good world war, mass famine or a deadly disease right about now to control the overpopulation.

[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;44701197]There [I]are[/I] too many people on the planet right now... Plus now all those anti-vaccine people will die off for sure[/QUOTE] No there's not, and vaccines protect you from viral infections, not bacterial infections. Bacterial resistance will hit everybody just as hard, probably.

[QUOTE=AJ10017;44701172]Well unless we make different anti biotics i guess its gg[/QUOTE] You don't just invent new antibiotics. This whole crisis is because bacteria are quickly evolving to adapt to every antibiotic we have in our arsenal.

[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;44701197]There [I]are[/I] too many people on the planet right now... Plus now all those anti-vaccine people will die off for sure[/QUOTE] You do know that if diseases turn untreatable, even people with vaccines would be in danger? People like you for instance?

All the people posting about "over population" are fucking stupid. We're not over populated. We just have a bad time managing our resources well. Honestly if you think the world is over populated you should go have a vasectomy so you can't add to the population. [sp]mostly so you can't raise children to be as dumb as you.[/sp]

This is some fear mongering bullshit. My dad was a microbiologist who specialized in bacteria, according to him we got a good while before this shit gets super serious. Also alternative treatments are already being developed/exist. We will be fine guys.

[quote]Each day, more than one million people contract gonorrhea around the world, the WHO says. [/quote] That can't be a real statistic. There are a million people a day contracting gonorrhea? That means that within two and a half years almost 12% of the world's population would have gonorrhea. Naturally, plenty of people already have it so with an average of a million people a day than we'd all contract gonorrhea at some point.

[QUOTE=Katatonic717;44701348]This is some fear mongering bullshit. My dad was a microbiologist who specialized in bacteria, according to him we got a good while before this shit gets super serious. Also alternative treatments are already being developed/exist. We will be fine guys.[/QUOTE] To be honest the fear mongering is needed to get people to stop abusing antibiotics. Public awareness of the possible risk is what is needed, and its slowly getting out there. My local doctors for example now has like 5 posters up informing people that antibiotics cannot cure the common cold.

[QUOTE=Jsm;44701369]To be honest the fear mongering is needed to get people to stop abusing antibiotics. Public awareness of the possible risk is what is needed, and its slowly getting out there. My local doctors for example now has like 5 posters up informing people that antibiotics cannot cure the common cold.[/QUOTE] Yeah that is very true. I just don't like people stirring up scary shit like this. Some people can get really freaked out.

doctors are shit as well though ive been coughing up blood for ages now and have been on every antibiotic under the sun and it aint doing shit. then they actually realised that surgery would fix it..

[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;44701197]There [I]are[/I] too many people on the planet right now... Plus now all those anti-vaccine people will die off for sure[/QUOTE] The overpopulation myth has been debunked so many times it's not even funny anymore.

[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;44701425]doctors are shit as well though ive been coughing up blood for ages now and have been on every antibiotic under the sun and it aint doing shit. then they actually realised that surgery would fix it..[/QUOTE] But this means that cases like bacterial meningitis (a disease that left untreated will at BEST leave you blind, and usually will kill you via brain death) and other bacterial infections are going to be insanely deadly. Something as simple as strep throat when left untreated can reach your brain and kill you. Now like Katatonic said, this is a lot farther in the future than these people would make you think. But when we do run out of antibiotics that work, a lot of people are fucked.

[QUOTE=Katatonic717;44701348]This is some fear mongering bullshit. My dad was a microbiologist who specialized in bacteria, according to him we got a good while before this shit gets super serious. Also alternative treatments are already being developed/exist. We will be fine guys.[/QUOTE] Once again Humanity and Human Nature is saved. [B]BY THE AWESOME POWERS OF SCIENCE!!![/B]

[QUOTE=draugur;44701332]All the people posting about "over population" are fucking stupid. We're not over populated. We just have a bad time managing our resources well. Honestly if you think the world is over populated you should go have a vasectomy so you can't add to the population. [sp]mostly so you can't raise children to be as dumb as you.[/sp][/QUOTE] uuh, no, you stupid shit, we just broke 7 bil population recently and are are about 7.2 bil right now. Our carrying capacity is around 10 bil, MAYBE 14 bil. We're literally 199% fucked unless we curb our population. [img]http://www.theoildrum.com/uploads/12/LongTermPopulation.gif[/img] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/TFR_vs_PPP_2009.svg/900px-TFR_vs_PPP_2009.svg.png[/img] If we overshoot carrying capacity, people won't just starve, a diseases will spread like wildfire, and nothing will stop them. A population crash WILL happen. [editline]1st May 2014[/editline] a disease like, ooh, I don't know, an antibiotic resistant superbug

Well if ray kurzweil is right, people will upload themselves into computers and the only bugs they are going to need to worry abo- ...... Sigh.

[QUOTE=Matthew0505;44701856]If we do manage to overpopulate, people will die until it's no longer overpopulated, so it's not like we'll go extinct.[/QUOTE] because people dying on the order of billions is totally fine also, if we severely overshoot carrying capacity, for about 30 years everything's going to be shitty and then suddenly about 6 billion people will starve to death or die of some little known fast spreading and killing disease due to close quarters. When a population collapses, more than 60% of it can simply die. [editline]1st May 2014[/editline] which would be about 6 billion people (or 85% of the worlds current population)

[QUOTE=draugur;44701332]All the people posting about "over population" are fucking stupid. We're not over populated. We just have a bad time managing our resources well. Honestly if you think the world is over populated you should go have a vasectomy so you can't add to the population. [sp]mostly so you can't raise children to be as dumb as you.[/sp][/QUOTE] Well yes and no. You can't just say "were not overpopulated, just resource inefficient" when our current population growth rate is unsustainable. Especially if you expect anybody to have a reasonable quality of living, there are far too many people. If as many people of the world had cars and luxuries like people of first world countries did, things would sorta suck. Most people who have careers in environmental sustainability and the like will tell you that the biggest thing you can do to help curb emissions and degradation, is to have less children. I'm speaking about this totally out of relation to fast adapting bacteria however, just in general.

[QUOTE=Matthew0505;44701856]If we do manage to overpopulate, people will die until it's no longer overpopulated, so it's not like we'll go extinct.[/QUOTE] I don't think we should let the world get to a point where in order to stop Earth from being overpopulated we need to have billions die

[QUOTE=Matthew0505;44701856]If we do manage to overpopulate, people will die until it's no longer overpopulated, so it's not like we'll go extinct.[/QUOTE] You make it sound like people will just follow a standard carrying capacity curve but that isn't the case. Planetary degradation is much more severe than that. Our population keeps growing, and the amount of finite resources that we have to support those people keeps shrinking.

[QUOTE=katbug;44701779]uuh, no, you stupid shit, we just broke 7 bil population recently and are are about 7.2 bil right now. Our carrying capacity is around 10 bil, MAYBE 14 bil. We're literally 199% fucked unless we curb our population. [img]http://www.theoildrum.com/uploads/12/LongTermPopulation.gif[/img] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/TFR_vs_PPP_2009.svg/900px-TFR_vs_PPP_2009.svg.png[/img] If we overshoot carrying capacity, people won't just starve, a diseases will spread like wildfire, and nothing will stop them. A population crash WILL happen. [editline]1st May 2014[/editline] a disease like, ooh, I don't know, an antibiotic resistant superbug[/QUOTE] You conveniently forgot to mention that birth rates decline (and are already declining) as we approach about 10 billion, which is thought to be the stable value.

[QUOTE=Tamschi;44701903]You conveniently forgot to mention that birth rates decline (and are already declining) as we approach about 10 billion, which is thought to be the stable value.[/QUOTE] Except we're extremely likely to overshoot by an extremely wide margin. Birth rates are declining as medicine and healthcare improve, as well as child deaths decrease. But currently the world average for births per fertile woman is just about 2.5; not all these children will survive, but enough will to cause a SERIOUS problem. Also, carrying capacity is estimated to be anywhere between 4 bil and 16 bil, so we might have already overshot.