Teacher gives his dad in hospital a gun to commit suicide - Polidicks

[quote=The Times]A music teacher faces up to ten years in prison after he admitted giving his father, who was terminally ill, a gun so that he could shoot himself dead in a busy hospital ward. Guy Button, 30, handed the pistol, a Walther PPK, to his father Ian, 63, at Northampton General Hospital on October 20 last year. He pleaded guilty at Northampton Crown Court to two charges of possessing an illegal firearm and two charges of passing an illegal firearm to his father. Judge Richard Bray criticised the legal minimum sentences for firearms offences, which mean that Button faces between five and ten years in prison unless his barrister can prove “exceptional circumstances”. The court was told that at the time of his suicide, Mr Buttonhad just been told that he was suffering from terminal lung disease. His wife Christine, also 63, was in a care home. His son, from Princes Risborough, Buckinghamshire, arrived at the hospital carrying a bag containing the pistol, other gun parts and 19 rounds of ammunition. Button’s father then shot himself in full view of other patients on the Benham Ward. He left a suicide note addressed to the police, claiming that he had taken the gun into hospital himself. In it, he said: “The gun was given to me in the 1980s. I thought I would hand it in to you as soon as possible, along with the ammunition. I do not see any quality of life and I cannot get any answers. I love my family and I am sorry for what I have done.” At first, Button told the police that he thought his father wanted him to take the gun into hospital so that he could hand it on to the police. However, Judge Bray dismissed this version of events as “incredible and ridiculous”. Luke Blackburn, for the defence, said that his client now admitted that he had been misguided in giving the gun to his father. Judge Bray called the case “very sad” with “lots of difficulties” because legislation removed a judge’s discretion to hand down a shorter prison term or alternative sentence because of the circumstances. The Crown Prosecution Service defended its decision not to prosecute him under the Suicide Act 1961, which makes it an offence to assist someone in killing themselves, saying that there was not enough evidence. Button was granted bail and will be sentenced at a later date.[/quote] [url=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6733395.ece]source[/url] He shouldn't have taken a loaded gun into a hospital, but if we actually had the right to die when we like this wouldn't happen.

Wait, how did he get charged with giving the gun to his father twice? And owning the gun twice?

Yet another reason for legalising Euthanasia.

[QUOTE=Pegleg;16391199]Wait, how did he get charged with giving the gun to his father twice? And owning the gun twice?[/QUOTE] Hmm I have no idea

Guy Button, how come most people in the news have strange or funny names?

[QUOTE=kizza55;16391226]Yet another reason for legalising Euthanasia.[/QUOTE] What are you, stupid? That'll cause all kinds of chaos. People will run rampant in the streets! Euthanasia, weed and homosexual marriage should remain illegal!

[QUOTE=Malumbre;16391247]What are you, stupid? That'll cause all kinds of chaos. People will run rampant in the streets! Euthanasia, weed and homosexual marriage should remain illegal![/QUOTE] ..What?

[QUOTE=Doriol;16391288]..What?[/QUOTE] Sarcasm [editline]01:07PM[/editline] I hope

[QUOTE=Malumbre;16391247]What are you, stupid? That'll cause all kinds of chaos. People will run rampant in the streets! Euthanasia, weed and homosexual marriage should remain illegal![/QUOTE] If it weren't for the Bible our citizens would all be going to hell.

[QUOTE=Malumbre;16391247]What are you, stupid? That'll cause all kinds of chaos. People will run rampant in the streets! Euthanasia, weed and homosexual marriage should remain illegal![/QUOTE] ITT: People don't understand sarcasm.

People, please bookmark dictionary.com with the definition "sarcasm" looked up. Thanks. [editline]08:23AM[/editline] [QUOTE=RichardNixon;16391369]If it weren't for the Bible our citizens would all be going to hell.[/QUOTE] If it weren't for the bible, we'd probably be living on another, colonized planet and teleporting around/eating from replicators/getting into all kinds of wacky adventures in our spaceships after detecting a space anomaly.

[QUOTE=Malumbre;16391442]People, please bookmark dictionary.com with the definition "sarcasm" looked up. Thanks. [editline]08:23AM[/editline] If it weren't for the bible, we'd probably be living on another, colonized planet and teleporting around/eating from replicators/getting into all kinds of wacky adventures in our spaceships after detecting a space anomaly.[/QUOTE] We'd probably be playing god too, but nobody would mind.

[QUOTE=Malumbre;16391442]People, please bookmark dictionary.com with the definition "sarcasm" looked up. Thanks.[/quote] Usually helps if your sarcasm is actually funny.

[QUOTE=RichardNixon;16391507]We'd probably be playing god too, but nobody would mind.[/QUOTE] What does that even mean and why is it such a bad thing? [editline]08:29AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Doriol;16391510]Usually helps if your sarcasm is actually funny.[/QUOTE] See my previous post for instructions.

Well shit, if I was terminally ill and in pain every day I would want to die too.

I read a gum. I was like 'Was he supposed to choke on a piece of gum then?'

It sure was hard for that dad.

[QUOTE=Malumbre;16391540][B]What does that even mean and why is it such a bad thing?[/B] [editline]08:29AM[/editline] See my previous post for instructions.[/QUOTE] It means doing something that people see as something that is too powerful to be put in human hands, usually due to a misconception of said power's power, see: gene manipulation. It's a bad thing because it makes god look less powerful or something. All in all it's founded in ignorance and stupidity.

[QUOTE=Malumbre;16391540]What does that even mean and why is it such a bad thing? [editline]08:29AM[/editline] See my previous post for instructions.[/QUOTE] It means we would be doing amazing shit with genetics because no one would have morals. And it's a bad thing because everyone would be a whore without morals.

[QUOTE=RichardNixon;16391568]It means we would be doing amazing shit with genetics because no one would have morals. And it's a bad thing because everyone would be a whore without morals.[/QUOTE] I love your posts :v: Perfect logic and absolute sarcasm all in one post.

Religion has nothing to do with morals

I still don't know why this is even illegal.

[QUOTE=Malumbre;16391247]What are you, stupid? That'll cause all kinds of chaos. People will run rampant in the streets! Euthanasia, weed and homosexual marriage should remain illegal![/QUOTE] over here in Holland we have legal Euthanasia, weed AND homosexual marriage :smug:

[QUOTE=James*;16391592]Religion has nothing to do with morals[/QUOTE] Then just say values. Edit: BROKE MAH AUTOMERGE :argh:

[QUOTE=James*;16391592]Religion has nothing to do with morals[/QUOTE] Yes it does. Religion is a big reason that some things that are completely fine, can be called "morally wrong". See: homosexuality. [editline]08:34AM[/editline] [QUOTE=DrDaxxy;16391593]I still don't know why this is even illegal.[/QUOTE] Because dying is bad an stuff

[QUOTE=RichardNixon;16391568]It means we would be doing amazing shit with genetics because no one would have morals. And it's a bad thing because everyone would be a whore without morals.[/QUOTE] Whose morals? The morals of a 2,000 year old bunch of peasant savages who endorsed slavery, misogyny, incest, polygamy, corporal/capital punishment for ridiculous misdemeanors and ritual sacrifice, a group of people who believed the world was flat and that there is an invisible man in the sky who loves us in a way we cannot begin to fathom, but who will send us to hell if we commit the most atrocious crime there is: being human? Yeah, I'm right with you on that one buddy, good call. God doesn't cure disabled people, but stem cells do. Fuck off.

[QUOTE=Malumbre;16391631]Whose morals? The morals of a 2,000 year old bunch of peasant savages who endorsed slavery, misogyny, incest, polygamy, corporal/capital punishment for ridiculous misdemeanors and ritual sacrifice, a group of people who believed the world was flat and that there is an invisible man in the sky who loves us in a way we cannot begin to fathom, but who will send us to hell if we commit the most atrocious crime there is: being human? Yeah, I'm right with you on that one buddy, good call. God doesn't cure disabled people, but stem cells do. Fuck off.[/QUOTE] He's not serious. You better bookmark the definition of "sarcasm".

[QUOTE=Malumbre;16391631]Whose morals? The morals of a 2,000 year old bunch of peasant savages who endorsed slavery, misogyny, incest, polygamy, corporal/capital punishment for ridiculous misdemeanors and ritual sacrifice, a group of people who believed the world was flat and that there is an invisible man in the sky who loves us in a way we cannot begin to fathom, but who will send us to hell if we commit the most atrocious crime there is: being human? Yeah, I'm right with you on that one buddy, good call. God doesn't cure disabled people, but stem cells do. Fuck off.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Malumbre;16391442]People, please bookmark dictionary.com with the definition "sarcasm" looked up. Thanks.[/QUOTE] :crossarms:

Shit, nothing ever happens in my town of northampton :O this is big.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16391606]Yes it does. Religion is a big reason that some things that are completely fine, can be called "morally wrong". See: homosexuality. [/QUOTE] I agree, I meant that if you look to religion for guidance on morality you're doing it wrong.