• Wuh-Oh: Michael Brown, the unarmed teen shot in Ferguson, allegedly robbed a store minutes before be
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Not confirmed though. [Quote=WJLA]FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) - Police on Friday identified the officer who fatally shot an unarmed black teenager and released documents alleging the young man had been suspected of stealing a $48.99 box of cigars from a convenience store in a "strong-arm" robbery shortly before he was killed. Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic." "It appears to be him," attorney Daryl Parks said, referring to the footage, which he said was released without any advance notice from police.[/quote] [url]http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/08/ferguson-police-shooter-s-name-revealed-106115.html[/url]
I'm still not sure I would call it a justified kill.
[QUOTE=Warship;45716608]I'm still not sure I would call it a justified kill.[/QUOTE] His accomplice in the CCTV video that was released was that "3rd party witness" that told everyone how innocent this kid was with his hands up. In reality, Brown bullrushed the cop after warning shots were fired. Next time I get on my computer, I'll post video links here. There was a true 3rd party witness telling the story in detail about how the kid was "on top" of the police car, and how the officer shot warning shots before he was rushed by this huge guy. I'm not justifying anything, but hopefully it's food for thought. [editline]Edited:[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM#t=360[/media] Skip to 6:00, you can hear a witness talking in the background. If anyone saw the surveillance video, you can see him scare the shit out of that clerk he dwarfed. His adrenaline was probably rushing and he felt invincible. Nobody else attacks cops. There's also a toxicology report that will be released soon to determine whether or not he was under the influence of drugs.
I'm pretty sure this doesn't justify a single fucking thing.
[quote]Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting[/quote]
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;45716670][/QUOTE] Knowing he would face a robbery charge if arrested he could have panicked and assaulted the officer. It makes the story we were told by the police about his actions far more viable. Doesn't justify how they've been handling the riots though.
i still call bullshit
[QUOTE=demoguy08;45716642]I'm pretty sure this doesn't justify a single fucking thing.[/QUOTE] Let's not forget we still have proof of police arresting journalists and confiscating their equipment.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;45716642]I'm pretty sure this doesn't justify a single fucking thing.[/QUOTE] Oh, not at all, especially with the cop stating he didn't know of Brown's involvement in the robbery before the shooting. It does, however, imply the kid was likely to be uncooperative or aggressive towards police, given his situation. Doesn't justify killing him, but certainly reason for the officer to be on his toes.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;45716676]It doesn't help the lawyers case, trying to portray the victim as completely innocent. He's also the same lawyer in thr Martin case. He'll be known as " the guy you don't hire if a minority you know gets shot"[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, I'm aware the legal folk will be able to spin this any way they wish. Imagine if trials were conducted on the basis of facts and not emotional appeal. [editline]17th August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Riller;45716722]Oh, not at all, especially with the cop stating he didn't know of Brown's involvement in the robbery before the shooting. It does, however, imply the kid was likely to be uncooperative or aggressive towards police, given his situation. Doesn't justify killing him, but certainly reason for the officer to be on his toes.[/QUOTE] [quote]Police Chief Thomas Jackson said [B]the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting[/B] and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."[/quote] Not in this case.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;45716741]Not in this case.[/QUOTE] Brown didn't know the cop didn't know that, so being confronted, he probably assumed he was about to get arrested and acted accordingly, is what I meant.
Umm it's not about whether or not the cop knew??????? It's about the kid and how he just robbed a store which meant be probably thought the cop was arresting him. Makes it a lot more viable to believe that he did rush the officer. Maybe it's not a story of racist oppressive white cops shooting black kids because they can?????
[QUOTE=lintz;45716697]i still call bullshit[/QUOTE] on what? this being real? they have him on fucking camera
[QUOTE=Charades;45716685]Knowing he would face a robbery charge if arrested he could have panicked and assaulted the officer. It makes the story we were told by the police about his actions far more viable. Doesn't justify how they've been handling the riots though.[/QUOTE] If you look at the timestamps on the reports he was confronted by police literally 3 minutes after the robbery, he was probably still pumping with adrenaline.
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;45716790]Umm it's not about whether or not the cop knew??????? It's about the kid and how he just robbed a store which meant be probably thought the cop was arresting him. Makes it a lot more viable to believe that he did rush the officer. Maybe it's not a story of racist oppressive white cops shooting black kids because they can?????[/QUOTE] But that makes too much sense and doesn't allow us any room for overemotional, unreasonable outrage.
Not to mention the cop before had zero demerits on his record and EMTs took him to the hospital for head injuries after the shooting.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;45716642]I'm pretty sure this doesn't justify a single fucking thing.[/QUOTE] what a post so devoid of thought
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTYYTu6AO_s[/media] This is the video released by Ferguson Police showing Michael Brown stealing from a liquor store prior to his death. This doesn't paint a good picture for the man when he eyes down and walks into the cashier after robbing his place of work. Take from it what you want, I personally find it sad so many are willing to claim racism and riot over it when it most likely wasn't. If anything, it was a misuse of force by the officer, but he also reacted according to the situation, and seeing how the officer had head injuries(I should look up how extensive), his use of force could have been justified. The police reaction to the protests have been far from stellar too, highlighting corrupt as fuck tactics like intimidation and censorship of journalists, and how extensive military hardware is falling into the hands of common police officers. There needs to be cooling down period, where citizens agree to not allow assholes into their side who openly vandalize, loot, and riot, while the police should stop armoring and arming up against unarmed civilians, and if anything actually talk to them and make the people respect them, like the Missouri Highway Patrol officer who has been trying to settle down both the people and police.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;45716676] He'll be known as " the guy you don't hire if a minority you know gets shot"[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but he is already a fucking joke.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;45716741]Oh yeah, I'm aware the legal folk will be able to spin this any way they wish. Imagine if trials were conducted on the basis of facts and not emotional appeal.[/QUOTE] It provides context; someone who hadn't just committed a crime would be much less likely to take aggressive action towards the police because they would have no reason to. Thus, the fact that the person who was shot committed a crime right before lends credence to the police's side of the story. Furthermore, just because the officer didn't know the person was a robbery suspect at the time doesn't change the fact that the person did know they had just committed a crime, which likely changed how they acted.
Why would you want the same lawyers as Martin? They lost.
[QUOTE=Midas22;45717079]Why would you want the same lawyers as Martin? They lost.[/QUOTE] Because muh sweet lil angel. :(
[QUOTE=Midas22;45717079]Why would you want the same lawyers as Martin? They lost.[/QUOTE] Well, technically, that lawyer never went to trail or anything. He just acted as the family's lawyers.
Just like the Trayvon Martin case, turns out the guy who got killed was literally trash of a human being and yet uninformed dumbasses build him up to be some kind of martyr That said unlike the Martin case, lethal force was most likely not justified at all, and the how the police handled protests/rioting was awful. If anything, thats the real black spot against the police in this whole thing - how the aftermath of his death was handled. A shitty person gets himself killed by being stupid and shitty, the cops handle it extremely poorly (and not to mention probably didn't need to use lethal force). Everybody are losers here.
[QUOTE=KorJax;45717195] A shitty person gets himself killed by being stupid and shitty, the cops handle it extremely poorly (and not to mention probably didn't need to use lethal force). Everybody are losers here.[/QUOTE] Its really difficult to say that considering we don't even know what allegedly happened yet.
[QUOTE=KorJax;45717195]Just like the Trayvon Martin case, turns out the guy who got killed was literally trash of a human being and yet uninformed dumbasses build him up to be some kind of martyr That said unlike the Martin case, lethal force was most likely not justified at all, and the how the police handled protests/rioting was awful. If anything, thats the real black spot against the police in this whole thing - how the aftermath of his death was handled. A shitty person gets himself killed by being stupid and shitty, the cops handle it extremely poorly (and not to mention probably didn't need to use lethal force). Everybody are losers here.[/QUOTE] Yet CNN and other shitty liberal American media news outlets still edits footage to try to fire up a race war. Edited footage: [url]http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/08/16/nd-ferguson-cell-phone-video-mike-brown-body-on-ground.cnn.html[/url] True source footage showing witnesses talking about Mike Brown fighting and charging police officer: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM&feature=player_detailpage#t=409[/media] 6:30 of the video is when they describe the incident, and it was all just edited out by CNN. "Next thing I know, he comin' back toward the police. The police had his gun drawn already. The police kept dumpin' in him I'm thinkin' that the police missing." The witness was talking about warning shots.
honestly i think this is one of those times that the initial spark isn't necessarily relevant. Ferguson clearly has really bad racial tensions going on, and i think it would be pretty patronizing to assume that everyone who's been protesting was doing it just cos they heard about one case on facebook. these riots are symptomatic of a much bigger overarching issue than just one guy getting shot. and it might be easy to simplify things like with justice4trayvon or whatever, but it seems really obvious that a lot of the town's minorities don't feel accurately represented by the local government, and that's a big problem regardless of whether you think they are or not.
I don't understand what is happening in America right now. People get irrational whenever a black person is killed. The boy had it coming.
This is borderline misinformation. I'm pretty sure its been proven that dude in the video and Brown are completely different people. The police said it themselves.
[QUOTE=axelord157;45717586]This is borderline misinformation. I'm pretty sure its been proven that dude in the video and Brown are completely different people. The police said it themselves.[/QUOTE] No, they confirmed it was him. [editline]17th August 2014[/editline] Unless you are talking about the video of his body then I don't know. [editline]17th August 2014[/editline] Unless you are talking about the video of his body then I don't know.
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