• Putin: Palestinian's being oppressed
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[IMG]http://rt.com/files/news/20/80/30/00/p-3.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE] Russia is planning to take a more active role in efforts to advance the Palestinian issue at the United Nations, diplomatic sources in New York estimate, following a recent speech by Russian President Vladimir Putin which touched on the subject. "The humiliation and the oppression that the Palestinian people are going through are a source of danger and destabilization, and every step must be taken to eliminate the humiliation and oppression," Putin said over the weekend in a speech before the Valdai club, an annual gathering of experts in Moscow. The Russian president also spoke out against settlement construction and said that the settlement enterprise constitutes "a cause increasing tension in the Middle East." Putin has until now declined to respond to the stagnation in negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians and left it to the US to deal with the Middle East peace process. His comments in support of the Palestinian cause have piqued the interest of diplomats and analysts in New York. "Putin, who almost never agrees to any diplomatic step initiated by US President Barack Obama is suddenly expressing understanding and sympathy to Obama's views on settlements," a senior western diplomat said Monday. Putin's comments and the condemnation he voiced against settlement policy were understood in New York as an early expression of support for Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas's initiative to win a UN Security Council vote for its resolution that would force Israel to withdraw from the West Bank within a given time frame in order to facilitate the establishment of a Palestinian state. In the international community, Putin is thought of as a fan of Israel and the relations between Israel and Russia are considered good. When the US and EU condemned the annexation of Crimea and attacked Moscow for providing help to Ukrainian rebels, Israel was practically the only country that made a point to abstain from criticizing or protesting Russia - a silence that was met bitterly in Washington. At the UN in New York, Russia tends to support the Palestinians, and Moscow's voting pattern on Middle East subjects discussed in the General Assembly is always against Israel. Israel is also worried about Russia's friendship and support for Iran, which has been clear during talks on Tehran's nuclear program with the P5+1 group of world powers, as a permanent member of the UN Security Council. However, in contrast to the United States and other western nations, Russia has thus far consistently avoided direct involvement in the open and back channel diplomatic efforts to advance a solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/After-Putin-condemns-oppression-of-Palestinians-diplomats-see-Russia-increasing-peace-role-379975[/url]
Better annex them Putin.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
Here we go again [editline]28th October 2014[/editline] That was a joke related to the annexation in Ukraine I just realized that was worded horribly
Oh hey, stopped clock syndrome
Putin speaking on repression is like Mao talking about tanks causing "accidental traffic jams". The amount of cognitive dissonance will make your ears bleed.
like he's one to talk.
Good things might come though if he pushes the palestine issue, I'll wait to see what he actually does though to pass judgement.
I'll always find it curious on how Putin is so aggressive with the old West vs East story but in Africa and Middle East, he takes a more peaceful approach.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46348900]I'll always find it curious on how Putin is so aggressive with the old West vs East story but in Africa and Middle East, he takes a more peaceful approach.[/QUOTE] because those areas are huge money and political sinks
Israel oppresing ethnic Russians
This man should get the Peace Nobel Prize.
I'm glad we can at least agree that Israel is awful.
[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;46348980]because those areas are huge money and political sinks[/QUOTE] They are also equivalent to live fire ranges for new military hardware.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46348900]I'll always find it curious on how Putin is so aggressive with the old West vs East story but in Africa and Middle East, he takes a more peaceful approach.[/QUOTE] Its not like his military owned and operated a large listening outpost in the golon nights until recently.... Also Putin is an ironmonger first and for most, Russia makes shittons of cash selling and providing arms and training to all the middle east countries Seriously if the us and Russia and china agreed to stop arming everyone in the middle east the entire region would probably be back to bows and muskets, with the exception to kiber pass aks made from m16s [editline]28th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;46349215]This man should get the Peace Nobel Prize.[/QUOTE] Ah yes the Nobel prize a symbol of western oppression and cultural decadence that russians have no need for, they shall invent their own prize and only non-west countries can get it
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46348883]Good things might come though if he pushes the palestine issue, I'll wait to see what he actually does though to pass judgement.[/QUOTE] I'm distrustful of Putin; I'm waiting to see what his own goals in this is before he looks to benefit the Palestinians.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;46349931]I'm distrustful of Putin; I'm waiting to see what his own goals in this is before he looks to benefit the Palestinians.[/QUOTE] He is sending a message to Israel to fall in line or face the harsh consequences of the might of the 21st century reincarnation of the glorious Soviet Union! They don't understand their privilege to exist.
uh if you actually read his valdai speech on this subject he said he intends to make russia act as a mediator between israel and palestine, not that "palestinians are being oppressed period". he is against settlements however not against israel. russia has good a relationship with both sides here.
[QUOTE=Melnek;46350103]uh if you actually read his valdai speech on this subject he said he intends to make russia act as a mediator between israel and palestine, not that "palestinians are being oppressed period". he is against settlements however not against israel. russia has good a relationship with both sides here.[/QUOTE] Israel might be useful to Russia for all their fancy pants drone tech. Don't need to be friends with america to get the best drones in the world.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;46350106]Israel might be useful to Russia for all their fancy pants drone tech. Don't need to be friends with america to get the best drones in the world.[/QUOTE] I wonder if Israel doing business with Russia will finally wake America up that Israel is out only for Israel. (Probably not)
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;46350198]I wonder if Israel doing business with Russia will finally wake America up that Israel is out only for Israel. (Probably not)[/QUOTE] Israel only sells military tech to other countries if America approves. When Israel misbehaves [URL="http://www.defensenews.com/article/20140103/DEFREG04/301030014/Israel-Replaces-Export-Control-Chief-After-Tech-Transfer-China"]shit usually hits fans[/URL] pretty fast. Also there's [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93United_States_military_relations"]this[/URL].
Putin somehow forgot to mention how the Chechians are also oppressed?
Lol our resident group of pro-Russian Israeli posters must be having a meltdown right now.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;46350456]Putin somehow forgot to mention how the Chechians are also oppressed?[/QUOTE] They started out fine but blew it when jihadists overthrew the government, went ISIS on the chechen people and started doing attacks on the nearby areas. Its worth noting that one of the warlords involved in liberating the chechens in the first war is now working for the Russian government to keep the area peaceful and stable.
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;46349215]This man should get the Peace Nobel Prize.[/QUOTE] Don't know man, if Obama did it why not Putin.
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