60 classic cars found 'abandoned' worth over 20 million dollar. - General

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxA5kqDwmzQ[/media] The cars were collected from the 1950s to the 1970s by entrepreneur Roger Baillon, who dreamt of restoring them to their former glory and displaying them in a museum. However, his plans were dashed as his business struggled, forcing Mr Baillon to sell about 50 of the vehicles.Since then, his collection has sat dormant in makeshift corrugated iron shelters and outbuildings on the farm. Mr Baillon died about 10 years ago and his son, Jacques, who inherited the collection, died last year. The Collectors’ Car Department at Artcurial has discovered 60 collectors’ automobiles, all major marques dating from the early days of the motor car through to the 1970s. Found following fifty years of lying dormant, the Baillon collection will be sold by Artcurial Motorcars in the first part of the traditional sale at Retromobile Salon, on 6 February 2015, in Paris. These motor cars have been tucked away in a property in the West of France, under makeshift corrugated iron shelters and in various outbuildings. Interested? Place your bids here in Febuari [url]http://www.artcurial.com/en/index.asp[/url]

I don't get it, surely when restoring a car that's this battered and weather damaged you're going to be buying so many of the parts you may as well build one from scratch. It doesn't even look like the main body of any of the cars would be useable, let alone any of the important, interior parts. can anyone explain to me how restoring a car works?

[QUOTE=vladnag;46679097]I don't get it, surely when restoring a car that's this battered and weather damaged you're going to be buying so many of the parts you may as well build one from scratch. It doesn't even look like the main body of any of the cars would be useable, let alone any of the important, interior parts. can anyone explain to me how restoring a car works?[/QUOTE] Many of them are incredibly fucking rare. So rare that it doesn't matter if you spend buttloads of money on it. [editline]9th December 2014[/editline] And if you build it from scratch....it's just a fake. [editline]9th December 2014[/editline] The same reason why you don't just remake the Mona Lisa in Photoshop and reprint it :v:

[QUOTE=Strontboer;46679111]Many of them are incredibly fucking rare. So rare that it doesn't matter if you spend buttloads of money on it. [editline]9th December 2014[/editline] And if you build it from scratch....it's just a fake. [editline]9th December 2014[/editline] The same reason why you don't just remake the Mona Lisa in Photoshop and reprint it :v:[/QUOTE] How much can they salvage though, and how much needs to be salvaged for it to be considered a restoration, and not just "a new car with a vintage headlight and some vintage spark plugs" It's more like finding a couple of scraps of the MonaLisa and painting in the 90% that's missing, then saying "hey it's got parts of the original Mona Lisa in it" note: I know fuck all about cars, just curious

Usually original frame and most of the body stays original. Engine stays original sometimes, but not if its toast, or if you want to hot rod it. My uncle restores kaiser cars and loves putting chevy 350's in them along with modern interiors, while still looking akmost exactly original.

[QUOTE=vladnag;46679097]I don't get it, surely when restoring a car that's this battered and weather damaged you're going to be buying so many of the parts you may as well build one from scratch. It doesn't even look like the main body of any of the cars would be useable, let alone any of the important, interior parts. can anyone explain to me how restoring a car works?[/QUOTE] You'd be surprised how much you can re-use. The bodywork, unless it's completely swiss-cheesed with rust is usually just straightened, rust-treated and painted. Things like bumpers, brightwork etc. can be stripped and re-chromed. Any soft materials from the interior usually have to be re-done, but stuff like plastic dashboards hold up remarkably well usually. The mechanical side is usually the biggest part though - even assuming the original engine is seized or damaged in some way it's usually possible to repair it to like new condition, and things like driveshafts, differentials, gearboxes etc. are incredibly difficult to manufacture. Nothing quite sounds like an old car either - there's a unique music to be heard from older engines that even the best-sounding cars of today fail to emulate. Also there's the legal side of things, particularly on more modern cars it's a lot easier to register a car for road use if it's still the original chassis, even if it is massively modified. If you build something from scratch the authorities consider it a new vehicle, like a kit car, which means it's very difficult to register in a lot of places and won't be subject to the same tax breaks and exemptions the genuine article would. And of course there's the sentimentality of it. Even if only 20% of the original parts survive, it's still 20% of a car that's been around for 40, 50, sometimes 100 years. The same metal bent and shaped, painted and polished by craftsmen decades ago. I guess you need to be petro-sexual to fully understand, but this stuff is horrendously important to car guys.

My uncles house is exactly this its so great getting to be around essentially a classic car graveyard he rebuilds them but finding the genuine article parts takes him years but once they are done they are usually totally original. [url=https://flic.kr/p/qmFQwz][img]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7559/15986664965_696f2e3b5e_z.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/qmFQwz]DSC_0118.jpg[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/people/60565580@N06/]Tom Raworth[/url], on Flickr [url=https://flic.kr/p/ppGDTC][img]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7570/15364417014_ab64a3817a_z.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/ppGDTC]DSC_0119.jpg[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/people/60565580@N06/]Tom Raworth[/url], on Flickr [url=https://flic.kr/p/ppGADw][img]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7470/15364406104_18a85f69cf_z.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/ppGADw]DSC_0112.jpg[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/people/60565580@N06/]Tom Raworth[/url], on Flickr [url=https://flic.kr/p/qmFSaz][img]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7481/15986670475_e5c5b48a89_z.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/qmFSaz]DSC_0098.jpg[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/people/60565580@N06/]Tom Raworth[/url], on Flickr the last picture is my car which after spending a long time rebuilding it now looks like this. [url=https://flic.kr/p/dMNKBD][img]https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8376/8394645407_8bef99c079_z.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/dMNKBD]My Car[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/people/60565580@N06/]Tom Raworth[/url], on Flickr sorry for the mass image dump

Is that an original Series 1 Land Rover in the first pic? Those sell for a nice buck to Land Rover crazies even in such a state as that.

[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;46679444]Is that an original Series 1 Land Rover in the first pic? Those sell for a nice buck to Land Rover crazies even in such a state as that.[/QUOTE] Yeah we have three of them but the plan is to put them back together and sell them on once there is room in the workshop

[QUOTE=Birdman101;46679277]Usually original frame and most of the body stays original. Engine stays original sometimes, but not if its toast, or if you want to hot rod it. My uncle restores kaiser cars and loves putting chevy 350's in them along with modern interiors, while still looking akmost exactly original.[/QUOTE] You have a cool uncle.

[QUOTE=TomboPukka;46679464]Yeah we have three of them but the plan is to put them back together and sell them on once there is room in the workshop[/QUOTE] Nicee. We have a Series 2A thats' in a bit of state (dead engine near enough) but its' nice to see them still kicking about after all these years. It's a nice thing to have I guess, tax exempt and cheap insurance once you get them working, but you soon pay the price in fuel and spare parts to keep the thing in a running state.

[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;46679524]Nicee. We have a Series 2A thats' in a bit of state (dead engine near enough) but its' nice to see them still kicking about after all these years. It's a nice thing to have I guess, tax exempt and cheap insurance once you get them working, but you soon pay the price in fuel and spare parts to keep the thing in a running state.[/QUOTE] My morris costs me £220 a year to insure after driving for 2 years, no road tax, its super economic and due to the popularity of the car the parts seem to always be available really cheap off the net