• HBO VICE: Armed teachers in US and Iraq Fallout.
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[video=youtube;uwhCqQ8hAl8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwhCqQ8hAl8[/video]
I can see the good intent but why does it seem like we're we training our kids to [I]expect[/I] a shooting to happen?
[QUOTE]I can see the good intent but why does it seem like we're putting on our seatbelt to [I]expect[/I] an accident to happen?[/QUOTE] Your question was as silly as this.
At my school we just have cops.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;43715460]I can see the good intent but why does it seem like we're we training our kids to [I]expect[/I] a shooting to happen?[/QUOTE] We did the same for Nuclear War, Biological Attacks, and Fire Drills. :v: Granted the only thing that was actually useful was fire drills, or as my 7th Grade Social Studies teacher put it: "During a nuclear attack, crawl into fetal position, kiss your ass goodbye" My personal opinion is we should do away with the No Gun Zones, and allow teachers to make the rational choice to have personal defense weapons, and the schools become responsible to send out emails about the number of teachers which are carrying on each grade level, but never explicitly state who is doing so. So long as the teacher keeps a clean record, they can keep a gun on the campus.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;43715460]I can see the good intent but why does it seem like we're we training our kids to [I]expect[/I] a shooting to happen?[/QUOTE] Not that different from a fire drill or teaching teachers to use a fire extinguisher or telling kids to duck and cover like a Nuke is about to hit.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;43715517]We did the same for Nuclear War, Biological Attacks, and Fire Drills. :v: Granted the only thing that was actually useful was fire drills, or as my 7th Grade Social Studies teacher put it: "During a nuclear attack, crawl into fetal position, kiss your ass goodbye" My personal opinion is we should do away with the No Gun Zones, and allow teachers to make the rational choice to have personal defense weapons, and the schools become responsible to send out emails about the number of teachers which are carrying on each grade level, but never explicitly state who is doing so. So long as the teacher keeps a clean record, they can keep a gun on the campus.[/QUOTE] I'm fine with allowing teachers to carry their own for their own personal reasons, but when you start arming them you create a false sense of security, the idea that anyone can do anything as long as they have a gun. Furthermore drilling students in shooter training I can't see being a good thing, since it just enforces the idea that shootings are now normal. Like said, school shootings are a very rare thing.
Cant watch it in my country....
[QUOTE=Adarrek;43716303]Cant watch it in my country....[/QUOTE] Also cannot watch here (UK), very strange. Previous episodes were fine.
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I know that they're teaching kids to confront their enemy in packs, but when a gun goes off, it creates a certain feeling that many in those courses won't be able to deal with. The sound, and environment. If the shooter paced themselves like what the shooters did at Columbine, there really isn't a way to confront them, without more lives being at risk. You can of course russian charge them and try, but real life situations are different than training, as always. As a human you don't have an instinct to go head on into a situation that will surely get you killed. I suppose that instinct is becoming desensitized throughout these training situations. I'm all for teachers that are trained to have weaponry to defend the teens and kids. If they're well trained, that is, not like the black lady that was shaking with each shot. That could determine life or death between maybe an innocent, or miss.
I always thought it'd be interesting (but pretty dangerous in some cases) to be a reporter for VICE
[QUOTE=Jsm;43717144]Also cannot watch here (UK), very strange. Previous episodes were fine.[/QUOTE] Your government doesn't want you to know about handguns
[QUOTE=Blazyd;43718154]I always thought it'd be interesting (but pretty dangerous in some cases) to be a reporter for VICE[/QUOTE] It's a dream job of mine.
It's a pathetic solution that proceeds from the same error as the problem.
Luckily, at my High School we had a onsite officer who took out 5 of the biggest meth labs in Texas around the area my hometown was in. Apparently he had disarmed multiple claymores and even confiscated a .50 cal from a shootout. Hell, we even had a armed Vietnam veteran who patrolled everyday in a golf cart who's only job was to boot cars in the wrong parking places, and also to probably kick ass if needed. So yeah.... Pretty sure my school was reasonably safer without a elite upperclassman defence team. Though I wouldn't argue it's a bad idea. I think self-defense classes would be a nice optional P.E credit atleast.
Odd that no one in this thread is talking about the horrific birth defects in Iraq... I find that to be a much more significant situation than a bunch of paranoid teachers.
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