Feds arrest KKK member for trying to build an anti-Muslim x-ray cannon

[Starpluck]

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[quote]Eric J. Feight, 55 pleaded guilty Wednesday to domestic terrorism-related charges in a federal courtroom in Albany, N.Y., and faces up to 15 years in prison. His alleged co-conspirator, Glendon Scott Crawford, 49, pleaded not guilty to the charges Wednesday after being indicted on three federal felony counts. [URL="http://www.justice.gov/usao/nyn/news/1951-3843-1565483392.pdf"]The indictment[/URL] filed in U.S. District Court in Albany, New York last week charged Crawford with attempting to produce and use a radiological dispersal device, conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction, and distributing information relating to weapons of mass destruction,

Investigators began looking at Crawford in April 2012, after the self-described [B]Klansman approached a Schenectady synagogue, looking for financial support to build the radiation device. [/B]

[B]“Crawford planned to create a mobile, remotely operated, radiation-emitting device capable of killing people silently from a distance with lethal doses of ionizing radiation[/B],” according to the indictment. “[B]Crawford’s intended targets were Muslims, Muslim-related organizations and persons Crawford believed were contributing to the demise of the United States.[/B]”

Crawford struck out in New York, then went to North Carolina looking for backing. The FBI had been tracking him at this point, [URL="http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2014/01/21/feds-indict-klansman-who-designed-radiation-gun-to-kill-muslims/"]notes the Southern Poverty Law Center. [/URL]
[B]Crawford “described to the [undercover FBI agents] his radiation emitting device, his remote initiation device, mobilizing the radiation device and discussed operation security [/B]concerns,” a criminal complaint filed last June said. “Crawford again solicited money to finance his scheme (primarily to fund the purchase or acquisition of an industrial strength x-ray system).”[/quote]

[RobbL]

Fucking anti-muslamics and their anti-muslamic rayguns

[Lachz0r]

will they actually be charged? cause it's not like they could even do what they were planning

[Terminutter]

Oh god, imagine the fucking scatter if you were to create something that operated that high in the megavoltage range at that distance. Radiotherapy is very close range and uses MV to get MeV beams, but that's fine, as it's close range. These guys wanted kilometers or something. Then there's the heat the thing'd generate, which would be truly insane, in addition to the huge size and power you would need. Also, isn't it possible for the metal head of linaccs to become irradiated after power disconnection when operating at high energy levels for long periods of time, even after power is disconnected? I'm pretty sure it is.

I'm not that sure how linaccs scale up to the diagnostic tubes I understand, but in any case, it'd still be a monumentally hard thing to make, in all likelihood impossible. They get an A+ for creativity though.

[CaioLugia]

This seems like a plot of a low budget action movie.

[Butt Factory]

Well, it's a good thing they stopped him. A world without muslims is a world not worth living.

[A B.A. Survivor]

[QUOTE=CaioLugia;43730917]This seems like a plot of a low budget action movie.[/QUOTE]

Sounds more like the greatest contemporary detective-suspense-thriller of our generation.

[SnakeHead]

[QUOTE=Terminutter;43730854]Oh god, imagine the fucking scatter if you were to create something that operated that high in the megavoltage range at that distance. Radiotherapy is very close range and uses MV to get MeV beams, but that's fine, as it's close range. These guys wanted kilometers or something. Then there's the heat the thing'd generate, which would be truly insane, in addition to the huge size and power you would need. Also, isn't it possible for the metal head of linaccs to become irradiated after power disconnection when operating at high energy levels for long periods of time, even after power is disconnected? I'm pretty sure it is.

I'm not that sure how linaccs scale up to the diagnostic tubes I understand, but in any case, it'd still be a monumentally hard thing to make, in all likelihood impossible. They get an A+ for creativity though.[/QUOTE]

English please, thanks.

[Terminutter]

[QUOTE=SnakeHead;43730979]English please, thanks.[/QUOTE]

What they wanted to do is pretty likely physically impossible, without endangering a large section of the populace in the path, as x-ray tubes tend to scatter more as you up the power. Think of a cone - the x-rays will start at one point, but scatter out in straight lines from it. Further you go from the source, more area covered.
Also, it'd be fucking huge, near impossible to make, require hilarious amounts of power (at high voltages) and either overheat constantly or just melt.
Oh, and it might become slightly radioactive if my understanding of how some high energy linear accelerators work. (think radiotherapy on steroids)

[Breen]

[QUOTE=SnakeHead;43730979]English please, thanks.[/QUOTE]

Shit would hit everyone and be hot as balls. A+ for creativity

[_maverick_]

Got to admit, that title sounds cool as hell

[Vasili]

It was to combat the Islamic rayguns.

[MightyLOLZOR]

This is the best headline ever.

[Super Saiyan Ye]

-snip- Late, had tab open.

would like to see any technical information they have on the device he thought up.

[rusty trombone]

[QUOTE]after the self-described [B]Klansman approached a Schenectady synagogue[/B] [/QUOTE]

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[Eudoxia]

[QUOTE=SnakeHead;43730979]English please, thanks.[/QUOTE]

You can build an x-ray laser using a free-electron laser, but it has to be around a kilometer in diameter.

[Zeke129]

Excuse me, sir? Mister Muslim, sir? Could you please stand very still while I point this comically large radar dish at your brain? Wait, why are you walking away? Sir! You're making it not work! You see, this is why I dislike Muslims! Uncooperative!

[JgcxCub]

[QUOTE=Terminutter;43730854]Oh god, imagine the fucking scatter if you were to create something that operated that high in the megavoltage range at that distance. Radiotherapy is very close range and uses MV to get MeV beams, but that's fine, as it's close range. These guys wanted kilometers or something. Then there's the heat the thing'd generate, which would be truly insane, in addition to the huge size and power you would need. Also, isn't it possible for the metal head of linaccs to become irradiated after power disconnection when operating at high energy levels for long periods of time, even after power is disconnected? I'm pretty sure it is.

I'm not that sure how linaccs scale up to the diagnostic tubes I understand, but in any case, it'd still be a monumentally hard thing to make, in all likelihood impossible. They get an A+ for creativity though.[/QUOTE]

Not just the scatter, good look getting a strong enough dielectric to prevent MV arcing

[SnakeHead]

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;43731426]You can build an x-ray laser using a [b]free-electron laser[/b], but it has to be around a kilometer in diameter.[/QUOTE]

A what now?

[asteroidrules]

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43730784]will they actually be charged? cause it's not like they could even do what they were planning[/QUOTE]

It's right in the article, they've already been charged, and one of them pleaded guilty.

[dai]

[QUOTE=CaioLugia;43730917]This seems like a plot of a low budget action movie.[/QUOTE]

Michael Bay presents: KKK vs the Islamic Terror

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyCAnFKV_ag[/media]

[ironman17]

A Klansman trying to build a death ray? Sounds like something you'd see on [adult swim]. But still pretty fucking dangerous.

[Pvt. Martin]

Is Cobra Commander a KKK member now or something?

[Sableye]

they arrested them like 6-7 months ago.... they just finally finished sentencing the dicks

[Lachz0r]

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;43731897]It's right in the article, they've already been charged, and one of them pleaded guilty.[/QUOTE]

yeah i meant like, actually get put in jail and all that shit. cause i mean this is just ridiculous crazy shit a pair of old morons who don't understand a thing they're saying were trying to and had no chance of pulling off so i think 15 years is a bit much

[Chryseus]

It's certainly possible to build an x-ray gun that can deliver a lethal dose in a short time period, really it's nothing more than an electron gun with the high energy beam hitting a target similar to a CRT, but over a long distance it's kind of ineffective.
A microwave gun would probably be a more realistic weapon given it can be focused with a simple waveguide.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43732135]yeah i meant like, actually get put in jail and all that shit. cause i mean this is just ridiculous crazy shit a pair of old morons who don't understand a thing they're saying were trying to and had no chance of pulling off so i think 15 years is a bit much[/QUOTE]

It isn't as hard as it sounds, x-ray guns are regularly sold on ebay and can be used by anyone with a little engineering experience, so 15 years sounds about right, radiation sickness is a horrible way to die.

[CyrustheGreat]

dammit they found our only weakness

[sltungle]

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43730784]will they actually be charged? cause it's not like they could even do what they were planning[/QUOTE]

Yes you could. With a large enough power supply (how you'd make it mobile I have no idea, but hang with me for a second) you can easily generate x-ray radiation - that's how you can get an x-ray at a small medical practice which is running off of mains power. Those things can certainly be deadly if they're not properly calibrated or you're left standing there for too long (it'd take some seriously negligence or stupidity for that to happen, but it's not outside of the realms of possibility).

[Lachz0r]

[QUOTE=sltungle;43732661]Yes you could. With a large enough power supply (how you'd make it mobile I have no idea, but hang with me for a second) you can easily generate x-ray radiation - that's how you can get an x-ray at a small medical practice which is running off of mains power. Those things can certainly be deadly if they're not properly calibrated or you're left standing there for too long (it'd take some seriously negligence or stupidity for that to happen, but it's not outside of the realms of possibility).[/QUOTE]

i guarantee you there is no way these 2 white trash morons could have done what they were trying to do

[Conely]

[QUOTE=Terminutter;43730854]Oh god, imagine the fucking scatter if you were to create something that operated that high in the megavoltage range at that distance. Radiotherapy is very close range and uses MV to get MeV beams, but that's fine, as it's close range. These guys wanted kilometers or something. Then there's the heat the thing'd generate, which would be truly insane, in addition to the huge size and power you would need. Also, isn't it possible for the metal head of linaccs to become irradiated after power disconnection when operating at high energy levels for long periods of time, even after power is disconnected? I'm pretty sure it is.

I'm not that sure how linaccs scale up to the diagnostic tubes I understand, but in any case, it'd still be a monumentally hard thing to make, in all likelihood impossible. They get an A+ for creativity though.[/QUOTE]

i wonder how big the radiator fins would have to be