Medical Examiner: Miami Cannibal Not High On Bath Salts
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[quote=CBS]
MIAMI (CBSMiami) – Rudy Eugene, the Causeway Cannibal who ate the face off a homeless man he attacked along the MacArthur Causeway, was apparently not high on bath salts or any other exotic street drug at the time of the attack, according to a report released Wednesday by the Miami-Dade Medical Examiner.
The news leaves law enforcement officials wondering what drove Eugene to strip off his clothes, attack homeless man Ronald Poppo, and chew off pieces of flesh from Poppo’s face.
Speculation about the cause of Eugene’s rampage on Poppo’s face centered on drugs, specifically bath salts, after police union officials claimed an increase in bizarre behavior among people on the street using such drugs.
[b]The much-anticipated toxicology report released by Miami-Dade Medical Examiner Dr. Bruce Hyma found marijuana in Eugene’s system, something CBS4 News had previously reported, but no evidence of any other street drugs, alcohol or prescription drugs, or any adulterants found in street drugs.
The report said this includes cocaine, LSD, amphetamines (Ecstasy, Meth and others), phencyclidine (PCP or Angel Dust), heroin, oxycodone, Xanax, synthetic marijuana (Spice), and many other similar compounds.
Hyma’s office specifically ruled out bath salts, a class of synthetic drugs that have been known to cause bizarre behavior and overheating of people who use them, two things that made some believe Eugene’s cannibalistic behavior could be blamed on the drugs.[/b]
“The department has also sought the assistance of an outside forensic toxicology reference laboratory, which has confirmed the absence of “bath salts,” synthetic marijuana and LSD,” the report said.
“Within the limits of current technology by both laboratories, marijuana is the only drug identified in the body of Mr. Rudy Eugene.”
The news from the medical examiner sends investigators back to square one as they look for what caused Eugene’s bizarre behavior.
A girlfriend and a friend who had seen Eugene hours before the attack said he had used marijuana, but had seen him use no other drug before traveling to the Urban Beach Weekend on Miami Beach the morning of the attack.
Eugene abandoned his car on the beach and walked back to Miami on the MacArthur Causeway, stripping off his clothes during the three-mile trip, and at one point he was spotted swinging from a lamp post.
Once on the Miami side of the causeway, he encountered Poppo where the MiamiMover crosses the causeway, in view of security cameras atop the Miami Herald building. Those cameras detailed how the naked cannibal attacked the much older Poppo, knocked him to the ground, and stripped him of his clothing.
Once overcome, Eugene chewed flesh from Poppo’s face, but a later autopsy report found he did not actually eat it.
A police officer was called to the scene by people who spotted the bizarre attack. He tried to intervene but was forced to shoot, killing Eugene and apparently striking the badly wounded Poppo.
Poppo, who was taken to Ryder Trauma Center, survived the attack but has no memory of it. His face was virtually destroyed but doctors say much of it can be repaired.
Eugene’s family and friends say they are clueless about why he attacked Poppo, claiming the former high school football player and car wash employee had never shown such violent tendencies. Many believed drugs were to blame, but with Wednesday’s report the search has begun for a new cause for one of South Florida’s most bizarre crimes. [/quote]
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Be right back, buying a gun.
Gee I am so surprised. I have never seen the media jump to conclusions before.
i guess the cannabis turned him into a cannibal
So pretty much he unglued in the Miami heat.
Do they have a date of how recently that this cannabis was ingested?
Symptoms of cannabis clear out hours after taking it, but it can last in the body for weeks.
he got some bad drugs then.
I was going to make a joke about how it was weed and how it's deadly, but it really was weed and now it ruined my fuckin joke.
This is the proof abovetheinfluence needs!
CANNABIS, NOT EVEN ONCE
Don't most hard drugs dissipate really quickly?
[QUOTE=JamesRaynor;36528799]Don't most hard drugs dissipate really quickly?[/QUOTE]
Alcohol is the quickest, leaving the system in a number of hours. Cocaine, Meth, and Heroin all leave the system between 3-7 days I believe.
So, this guy was just legitimately crazy then?
I would think PCP and Bath Salts would both be gone in a similar timeframe, but I can't be sure.
From Cannabis to Cannibalism! [I][B]Not even once.[/B][/I]
I can't wait for the idiots to jump on the "marijuana is a terrible "hard" drug" bandwagon.
I read:
[quote]The report said this includes cocaine, LSD, amphetamines (Ecstasy, Meth and others), phencyclidine (PCP or Angel Dust), heroin, oxycodone, Xanax, synthetic marijuana (Spice), and many other similar compounds.[/quote]
and thought that was the list of drugs found in his body. My jaw dropped.
Haven't you guys listened to the media and police and social networking? Marijuana always turns black men into rabid dangerous killers
[QUOTE=flyboy463;36528928]I can't wait for the idiots to jump on the "marijuana is a terrible "hard" drug" bandwagon.[/QUOTE]
To stomp that out before we get there, the only role cannabis could've played in this is bringing out mental instability, as great deal of the cannabis high is due to decreased inhibition in brain processes to put it simply. Doesn't really take a neurologist to figure out that decreased inhibition allows mental health issues to make their appearance more easily.
nah like you dont chief and then like lose your mind it just doesnt happen
The Government brainwashed a dude to be a cannibal then got him high and trigger his brain into eating someone so that the closer to pot being legal recently will fail and make people against it again.
Well the scientists said that the only drug was Marijuana so the logical conclusion is that Marijuana is worse than all other drugs combined.
I'm having a [I]verrrry[/I] hard time believing that it was simply marijuana that did this. I'm not on the "marijuana should be legal" train or anything like that, but as my rehab prof. mother put it, "weed is not the only factor in this." I think there is some mental illness connected to this. Sure, the marijuana may have been a catalyst for the situation.
I remember when the original thread came out, people made jokes about how he was high and got the munchies.
They're probably collecting on bets now.
[QUOTE=Shiftyze;36529300]The Government brainwashed a dude to be a cannibal then got him high and trigger his brain into eating someone so that the closer to pot being legal recently will fail and make people against it again.[/QUOTE]
Or they created the T-Virus.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;36528832]So, this guy was just legitimately crazy then?[/QUOTE]
Not crazy, just hungry.
obviously this means they are real zombies.
go on people, live your apocalyptic fantasy.
[QUOTE=Andokool12;36529122]To stomp that out before we get there, the only role cannabis could've played in this is bringing out mental instability, as great deal of the cannabis high is due to decreased inhibition in brain processes to put it simply. Doesn't really take a neurologist to figure out that decreased inhibition allows mental health issues to make their appearance more easily.[/QUOTE]
Basically this. While compounds like THC may not have adverse effects on most of the population, there are one in a million cases where a person who otherwise didn't do drugs would live a normal life. Basically their brain only needed one minor insult to become unhinged.
My dad knew a guy in highschool that was unfortunate enough to have some unknown condition like this man and unknowingly drank some punch at a party spiked with LSD. He made it through the bad trip, but developed schizophrenia and later hanged himself.
Because it was TOTALLY the cannabis making him eat the other mans face, and totally not that he was just insane and he had THC metabolites left in his body from smoking pot a few days/weeks beforehand.
some people are just loony toons. take a look at ed gein and gacy and all those fucked up cunts pretty sure they didn't do drugs
[QUOTE=Fangz;36529565]Or they created the T-Virus.[/QUOTE]
No
They created the THC-VIRUS!!!
wasn't he found with both a koran and a bible
why aren't we talking about that bit, that bit seems more interesting to me
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