• UK Student extradited to the US, and jailed, although never been to the US before
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[quote]Richard O’Dwyer, the UK-based ex-administrator of the video linking website TVShack will be extradited to the US to face copyright infringement charges. Despite public outrage Home Secretary Theresa May approved the extradition order today. The 23-year-old student has never visited United States, but now faces several years in a US prison. Last year Richard O’Dwyer was arrested by police for operating TVShack, a website that carried links to copyrighted TV-shows. Following his detention in the UK’s largest prison, the site owner fought a looming extradition to the US, but without success. After a UK judge gave the green light to extradite the student two months ago, Home Secretary Theresa May officially approved the request from US authorities today. Julia O’Dwyer, Richard’s mother, is severely disappointed with the decision and says that her son has been “sold” to the US. The extradition may disrupt his life for years. “Today, yet another British citizen is betrayed by the British Government,” she said. “Richard’s life – his studies, work opportunities, financial security – is being disrupted, for who knows how long, because the UK Government has not introduced the much-needed changes to the extradition law.” The extradition is controversial because under certain circumstances merely linking to copyright material isn’t an offense in the UK. In 2010, linking website TV-Links was deemed to be a ‘mere conduit’ of information and its admins were acquitted. In the US recent court rulings are of a totally different kind. There, Richard O’Dwyer faces the same fate as several other operators of linking sites that were recently on trial. In January, Ninjavideo founder Hana Beshara was sentenced to 22 months in prison followed by 2 years of probation, 500 hours of community service and ordered to repay nearly $210,000. Fellow admin Matthew Smith received 14 months in prison, two years supervised release, and was ordered to pay back just over $172,000.[/quote] [url]https://torrentfreak.com/pirating-uk-student-to-be-extradited-to-the-us-120313/[/url] Dude, what the fuck, jailed in the US even though he has never been there before Oh wow, it happened a week ago, oh well
A good first experience in a country of freedom!
Extridition is fucking evil. America is just making random examples of people to show that they want people to think that noone is safe.
Shouldnt this be handled by, you know, the UK gov, US? Seriously, arent there bigger issues than than some greedy fucks handing you 5 mil and saying "arrest those punks"?
Fuck anti copyright laws and the like, it's only a matter of time before everything becomes open source. Big corporations need to realise that their platform is becoming obsolete, the only way they can thrive is by change not condemnation and punishment.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;35252532]Shouldnt this be handled by, you know, the UK gov, US? Seriously, arent there bigger issues than than some greedy fucks handing you 5 mil and saying "arrest those punks"?[/QUOTE] There are no issues when there is money.
This is fucking bullshit. This needs to be fixed.
[QUOTE=The mouse;35252505]Extridition is fucking evil. America is just making random examples of people to show that they want people to think that noone is safe.[/QUOTE] Jesus, it's not like we're gonna oil up the rack for him for something. I love how no matter what, America is the biggest player. America is either the big hero or, more frequently in cases like these, the big villain. The article and the people interviewed blame the U.K. Government for flawed extradition laws and for betraying him. And yet in most cases like this (See Spanish passing Anti-Piracy with American backing last year) everyone acts like America is the big evil bully making the poor innocent little other countries bend to their will. The fact of the matter is that European governments (not all of them, I stress) can often times be just as shitty about copyright law as the United States. It's natural for the "victims" of this guy's actions would request extradition, it's less so for the U.K. to comply.
I'm disgusted at how Britain isn't standing up against this, and that the US is doing this. One country's Laws should not overwrite another's.
Another knife in another back.
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Not to sound like I don't care, but could you show another source? "Torrentfreak.com" doesn't sound very legitimate to me.
Good. Its about time we keep these evil no good people off the streets for as long as possible, if they are left loose who knows what kind of damage they will continue to do.
Edit: Found one, they (the US government) has been asking for him since May 2011.
[QUOTE=Spooter;35253286]Jesus, it's not like we're gonna oil up the rack for him for something. I love how no matter what, America is the biggest player. America is either the big hero or, more frequently in cases like these, the big villain. The article and the people interviewed blame the U.K. Government for flawed extradition laws and for betraying him. And yet in most cases like this (See Spanish passing Anti-Piracy with American backing last year) everyone acts like America is the big evil bully making the poor innocent little other countries bend to their will. The fact of the matter is that European governments (not all of them, I stress) can often times be just as shitty about copyright law as the United States. It's natural for the "victims" of this guy's actions would request extradition, it's less so for the U.K. to comply.[/QUOTE] US Jail is pretty terrible and its entire focus is around punishing the criminal, not rehabilitating them. Nobody should be forced out of their country and into the US simply because they broke a US law (while not in the US)
[QUOTE=Valdor;35253610]US Jail is pretty terrible and its entire focus is around punishing the criminal, not rehabilitating them.[/QUOTE] So are U.K. prisons a vast improvement on ours? I'm legitimately wondering here, if anyone knows speak up. [QUOTE=Valdor;35253610] Nobody should be forced out of their country and into the US simply because they broke a US law (while not in the US)[/QUOTE] I agree, the extradition request is basically a way to get around the U.K.'s copyright laws. We shouldn't be requesting it, and the U.K. [I]definitely[/I] shouldn't be complying.
wait i'm sorry how is this even the state's business were the servers hosted in the us? why is this dude subject to our laws?
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;35253749]wait i'm sorry how is this even the state's business were the servers hosted in the us? why is this dude subject to our laws?[/QUOTE] Copyrights filed in the US fall under US jurisdiction I believe. But man, this is a dumb reason to extradite someone. It's even dumber to imprison someone for copyright violations. Why not just fine him, or just say "Fuck it" and let him off with a warning.
okay it's time to sack the government.
[QUOTE=Talkbox;35252537]Fuck anti copyright laws and the like, it's only a matter of time before everything becomes open source. Big corporations need to realise that their platform is becoming obsolete, the only way they can thrive is by change not condemnation and punishment.[/QUOTE] Changes are coming! More free-to-play games are springing up as people realize fighting piracy is futile Of course, TV and movies are different but there must be something. Netflix is in the right direction [editline]23rd March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;35254039]okay it's time to sack the government.[/QUOTE] It is well overdue
Pure evil draconian punishment at it's finest. I'm even more shocked at how the UK government would even allow this bullshit to happen. US judicial system is such a fucking joke.
fuck my government and fuck the US government, and the RIAA and MPAA for good measure (see: avatar) [editline]23rd March 2012[/editline] fuck em all
[QUOTE=Turnips5;35254561]fuck my government and fuck the US government, and the RIAA and MPAA for good measure (see: avatar) [editline]23rd March 2012[/editline] fuck em all[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulIOrQasR18[/media]
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;35253798]Copyrights filed in the US fall under US jurisdiction I believe. [/QUOTE] The Owners should file their copyright claims in Russia, so they can punish pirates with Russian jails!
Reminds me of the Dimitri Sklyarov case some time ago. Dude found out how to change the setting in Adobe PDFs that disallows printing. He was extradited to the US and faced trial for like, years. My dad still has a "Free Dimitri!" tshirt.
[QUOTE=Dark-Energy;35254511]Pure evil draconian punishment at it's finest. I'm even more shocked at how the UK government would even allow this bullshit to happen. US judicial system is such a fucking joke.[/QUOTE] Please do explain how this is evil or draconian
[QUOTE=scout1;35257078]Please do explain how this is evil or draconian[/QUOTE] link to a movie on youtube and you'll have done the same thing they're extraditing this guy for
What's next? People getting extradited to the Vatican for speaking against Christianity? Homosexuals getting extradited to Afganistan for execution?
Not too long before America starts causing shit with the U.K Eventually were going to be on everyone's shit list
Abuse of a system again America?
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