Melania Trump's Convention Speech Part Plagiarised from Michelle Obama's 2008 Speech - Polidicks

[url]http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2016/07/republican-convention-0[/url] [QUOTE]IT HAD been billed as the high point of the opening day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland—a speech by Donald Trump’s beautiful, Slovenian-born wife, Melania, on July 18th, in which she was expected to paint the presumptive Republican candidate in a new and softer light. Mr Trump’s advisers have described that rebranding exercise as their big objective in Cleveland; Paul Manafort, the campaign’s manager, says the four-day coronation of Mr Trump as the Republican nominee will show a “very personal” side to him. Interviewed on her way to deliver the speech, Mrs Trump claimed to have written it herself, “with a [sic] little help as possible”.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]But then things went badly wrong for her, her husband, and what is already shaping up to be a strange, modestly provisioned and poorly attended convention, from which most of the party’s luminaries are absent. Two passages of Mrs Trump’s speech, it emerged, had been lifted, more or less exactly, from Michelle Obama’s address to the Democratic convention in 2008. “Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values: that you work hard for what you want in life, that your word is your bond and you do what you say you’re going to do,” Mrs Obama said in a speech richly praised at the time by, among others, Mr Trump. “From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life, that your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise, that you treat people with respect,” said Mrs Trump. “And Barack and I set out to build lives guided by these values, and pass them on to the next generation,” Mrs Obama’s speech continued. “Because we want our children—and all children in this nation—to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.” Or as Mrs Trump put this: “That is a lesson I continue to pass along to our son, and we need to pass those lesson on to the many generations to follow, because we want our children in this nation to know that the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.”[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Worse, the scandal raises an obvious question about the straight-shooting honesty of Mr Trump’s campaign that is one of his main boasts. Plainly, Mrs Trump was trying to reinforce just that impression by claiming, falsely, to have written the speech herself. She now looks a phony, which makes Mr Trump look like a phony, too. He would now seem to have two ways of dealing with the fallout. He could admit the error and fire the errant speechwriter. Or Mr Trump, who almost never admits to possessing any weakness, may choose to ignore the blunder and simply blame the media for making an unnecessary fuss. His spokesman, in a statement released shortly after the foul-up was noticed, suggested Mr Trump preferred the second path. “In writing her beautiful speech, Melania’s team of writers took notes on her life’s inspirations, and in some instances included fragments that reflected her own thinking,” it ran. That contained at least an admission that Mrs Trump was wrong to have claimed authorship of the speech. But America’s media, long bullied and abused by Mr Trump, and now delighting in his embarrassment, are going to want to see more of a climb-down than that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Or Mr Trump, who almost never admits to possessing any weakness, may choose to ignore the blunder and simply blame the media for making an unnecessary fuss[/QUOTE] Can't say I wouldn't if I were him, who the fuck even cares?

I wonder if this is an intentional gaffe to build interest in Melania Trump for the general election. If so, that's pretty neat.

Her speech definitely is too close to Michelle's, but I mean you can only skin the "dream big children/place value in your words" cat in so many ways... These speeches are just to hit every checkmark that humbles voters and their American spirits and appealing to dreams and promises is just routine politicking at this point. [editline]19th July 2016[/editline] I bet you have very little license to riff off of these concepts and not have the meaning lost or the impact weakened on the audience.

[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50738278]Her speech definitely is too close to Michelle's, but I mean you can only skin the "dream big children/place value in your words" cat in so many ways... These speeches are just to hit every checkmark that humbles voters and their American spirits and appealing to dreams and promises is just routine politicking at this point. [editline]19th July 2016[/editline] I bet you have very little license to riff off of these concepts and not have the meaning lost or the impact weakened on the audience.[/QUOTE] That is the same excuse I used in all my english classes, needless to say it didn't work.

[QUOTE=ZachPL;50738310]That is the same excuse I used in all my english classes, needless to say it didn't work.[/QUOTE] I doubt she's getting sued :v: And even better: if she did they'd get even more attention. The fact that this made headlines shows that Trump's tactics are still working. Say what you will about his policies, but the man sure knows marketing.

[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50738278]Her speech definitely is too close to Michelle's, but I mean you can only skin the "dream big children/place value in your words" cat in so many ways... These speeches are just to hit every checkmark that humbles voters and their American spirits and appealing to dreams and promises is just routine politicking at this point. [editline]19th July 2016[/editline] I bet you have very little license to riff off of these concepts and not have the meaning lost or the impact weakened on the audience.[/QUOTE] That segment is practically verbatim, though. That doesn't happen by accident. This really isn't a big deal in the grander scheme of things, though. Nobody will care about this in a week. It's just a moderately embarrassing gaff. Their speechwriter should probably be canned.

Everyone is jumping to blame the [URL="https://www.thenation.com/article/what-liberal-media/"]"Liberal media"[/URL] for overreacting but this is such obvious plagiarism. There are entire lines, not just sentiments or "general work hard sentiments" lifted verbatim. I'm sure the same people yelling about the liberal media being out to get Trump don't remember Biden's presidential bid was sunk buy far less evidence of plagiarism. Every fuck up the Trump campaign makes can't just be attrivuted to dem dumb liberals out to get Trump.

[QUOTE=orgornot;50738422]I doubt she's getting sued :v: And even better: if she did they'd get even more attention. The fact that this made headlines shows that Trump's tactics are still working. Say what you will about his policies, but the man sure knows marketing.[/QUOTE] "I'll make headlines by showing just how dishonest I am! Great marketing!"

[QUOTE=orgornot;50738422]I doubt she's getting sued :v: And even better: if she did they'd get even more attention. The fact that this made headlines shows that Trump's tactics are still working. Say what you will about his policies, but the man sure knows marketing.[/QUOTE] no really, is there anything trump can do without you somehow twisting it into praise?

[QUOTE=da space core;50738498]no really, is there anything trump can do without you somehow twisting it into praise?[/QUOTE] Don't you know? Every gaffe in the trump campaign is all part of the political mind games . They are just pretending to be retarded [editline]19th July 2016[/editline] For what its worth the trump campaign said she totally didn't plagiarize and this is all Clintons fault somehow

This speech would've gone by without anyone (Except people already supporting Trump) noticing had it not been for the fact it's plagiarised. I have little doubt it was a calculated move.

[video]https://twitter.com/mikehearn/status/755260215021432832[/video]

[QUOTE=da space core;50738498]no really, is there anything trump can do without you somehow twisting it into praise?[/QUOTE] orgornot can spin any publicity into "attention = votes", but only for Trump. If he applied his standards to Clinton it would mean the FBI scandal is doing wonders for her campaign.

Both speeches are vague and uninspired

[QUOTE=meppers;50738680][video]https://twitter.com/mikehearn/status/755260215021432832[/video][/QUOTE] Ive heard those words before... its from a book about ww2 but i cant put my finger on it...

[Media]https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/755420408850120704[/Media] This is the guy who punched the journalists.

[QUOTE=orgornot;50738422]I doubt she's getting sued :v: And even better: if she did they'd get even more attention. The fact that this made headlines shows that Trump's tactics are still working. Say what you will about his policies, but the man sure knows marketing.[/QUOTE] "Trump found to have a million underage sex slaves that he uses personally" Orgornot: "what a brilliant marketer the media is gonna eat this up! MAGA"

[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;50738713]orgornot can spin any publicity into "attention = votes", but only for Trump. If he applied his standards to Clinton it would mean the FBI scandal is doing wonders for her campaign.[/QUOTE] He fails to understand that bad publicity makes Trump look, well, bad.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50738778]He fails to understand that bad publicity makes Trump look, well, bad.[/QUOTE] Only in the eyes of the people that will never vote for him anyway...

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50738778]He fails to understand that bad publicity makes Trump look, well, bad.[/QUOTE] But haven't Trump gotten plenty of bad publicity? And yet he still managed to get the nomination

[QUOTE=gokiyono;50738805]But haven't Trump gotten plenty of bad publicity? And yet he still managed to get the nomination[/QUOTE] "bad publicity" to you and me is good publicity to a southern right-winger.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50738817]"bad publicity" to you and me is good publicity for a southern right-winger.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure plagiarising a speech from a Democrat who is married to a secret Muslim born in Kenya isn't good publicity with them either

I just saw this [video=youtube;GYuCr7m9s_E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYuCr7m9s_E[/video] I'm now convinced they knew [B]exactly [/B]what they were doing.

Melania probably had a speech writer and has never even seen the original speech. From what I can gather she's meant to be quite clever and speaks five languages. Then again, she's married to Trump...

[QUOTE=SpartanApples;50738851]Melania probably had a speech writer and has never even seen the original speech. From what I can gather she's meant to be quite clever and speaks five languages. Then again, she's married to Trump...[/QUOTE] She's an absolute golddigger, yep.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/kFDV32I.png[/IMG] please don't ban me

I'd say who cares, but this is something for the media to eat up instead of what the other speakers were talking about. So it's doing its job at shifting the focus

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50738929][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/kFDV32I.png[/IMG] please don't ban me[/QUOTE] Kekt, but still ban him because we cant tolerate fun in this place [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Kek meme shit" - Novangel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=SpartanApples;50738851]Melania probably had a speech writer and has never even seen the original speech. From what I can gather she's meant to be quite clever and speaks five languages. Then again, she's married to Trump...[/QUOTE] She said herself that she wrote most of it.