Hamas kills 4 year old Israeli boy and executes 18 "collaborators" - Polidicks

[URL="http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/22/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0GM11320140822"]http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/22/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0GM11320140822[/URL] [QUOTE]Hamas-led gunmen in Gaza executed 18 Palestinians accused of collaborating with Israel on Friday, accelerating a crackdown on suspected informers after Israeli forces tracked down and killed three senior Hamas commanders. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu threatened to escalate the fight against Hamas, vowing the group would "pay a heavy price" after [B]a four-year-old Israeli boy was killed by a mortar attack from Gaza, the first Israeli child to die in the six-week conflict[/B].[/QUOTE] Not in the article, but another Israeli was mortally wounded this evening in Ashdod. The fun never stops in the Middle East. [B]Edit:[/B] Some Israeli sources are claiming the mortar that killed the boy was fired from a UNRWA school: [QUOTE]Security sources later claimed that the mortar fire that killed Tregerman had been fired by militants from within an UNWRA school in the northern Gaza neighborhood of Saja'iyya.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4562008,00.html"]http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4562008,00.html[/URL] [B]Edit again:[/B] There's already a thread on the "collaborator" executions, so this thread is about the Israeli child who was killed today, I guess.

Here we go agaaaain

I believe you're [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1419561"]late[/URL].

[QUOTE=PolarEventide;45770652]I believe you're [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1419561"]late[/URL].[/QUOTE] Yeah. Missed it. I'll rename the thread to focus on the other death.

Update: the mortar wasn't fired from an UNRWA school as IDF originally claimed. It's a Hamas run school. [QUOTE]After the death of Daniel Tragerman outside his home in a kibbutz near the Israel-Gaza border, a spokesman for the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) said the mortar was fired from or near a school run by UNRWA, the UN agency for Palestinian refugees, which was being used to shelter Palestinians who have fled their homes because of bombing and destruction. A correction later tweeted by an IDF spokesperson, Peter Lerner, read: [B]"After further review, the school the mortar was launched near from is not being used as a shelter by UNRWA but rather a shelter maintained by Hamas authorities in Gaza."[/B][/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/23/israel-admits-mortar-bomb-not-fired-un-school?cmp=wp-plugin"]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/23/israel-admits-mortar-bomb-not-fired-un-school?cmp=wp-plugin[/URL]

I don't really like this style of headline whether it's "Israel kills 4 year old" or "Hamas kills 4 year old", because you're gonna add "in a inaccurate attack on a general area" afterwards anyway. This was a mortar strike, ain't exactly a targeted strike on a 4 year old boy. Still terrible, but there's no indication that they had the intention of killing a 4 year old boy. Same goes when Israel fire at Palestine, except there the casualties are obviously higher.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;45780437]I don't really like this style of headline whether it's "Israel kills 4 year old" or "Hamas kills 4 year old", because you're gonna add "in a inaccurate attack on a general area" afterwards anyway. This was a mortar strike, ain't exactly a targeted strike on a 4 year old boy. Still terrible, but there's no indication that they had the intention of killing a 4 year old boy. Same goes when Israel fire at Palestine, except there the casualties are obviously higher.[/QUOTE] their intention was to kill and they did

Breaking News: The Middle East is a violent, overly religious shithole. Back to you, Ken.

And again the common Israeli and Palestinian people suffer because of this bullshit

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;45780437]I don't really like this style of headline whether it's "Israel kills 4 year old" or "Hamas kills 4 year old", because you're gonna add "in a inaccurate attack on a general area" afterwards anyway. This was a mortar strike, ain't exactly a targeted strike on a 4 year old boy. Still terrible, but there's no indication that they had the intention of killing a 4 year old boy. Same goes when Israel fire at Palestine, except there the casualties are obviously higher.[/QUOTE] We do know that their goal was to kill as many civilians as possible.

[QUOTE=Sungrazer;45780509]Breaking News: The Middle East is a violent, overly religious shithole. Back to you, Ken.[/QUOTE] More like, back to you, James. James?

[QUOTE=Lurklet;45780876]More like, back to you, James. James?[/QUOTE] Too soon. Toooooo soon.

[QUOTE=sgman91;45780574]We do know that their goal was to kill as many civilians as possible.[/QUOTE] Hamas has killed more Soldiers than civilians in this conflict, and Israel has killed more civilians than actual Hamas militants.

[QUOTE=Bucketboy;45786301]Hamas has killed more Soldiers than civilians in this conflict, and Israel has killed more civilians than actual Hamas militants.[/QUOTE] Civilians have been the main casualties on both sides of the firing lines. The main difference is that Hamas deliberately attacks civilians and the IDF don't. That said, they're either unable to reduce civilian casualties or more likely they just don't give a shit who gets killed along with their targets. For Hamas, the civilians [I]are[/I] the targets.

[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;45786856]Civilians have been the main casualties on both sides of the firing lines. The main difference is that Hamas deliberately attacks civilians and the IDF don't. That said, they're either unable to reduce civilian casualties or more likely they just don't give a shit who gets killed along with their targets. For Hamas, the civilians [I]are[/I] the targets.[/QUOTE] Though we all here most likely (and hopefully) disagree with Hamas' politics, and especially the actions of their military brigade, the majority of casualties in the recent conflict have been primarily enemy combatants on the israeli side, and primarily civilians on palestinian side, as far as my knowledge goes.

[QUOTE=Bucketboy;45786301]Hamas has killed more Soldiers than civilians in this conflict, and Israel has killed more civilians than actual Hamas militants.[/QUOTE] Even if you want to believe that load of tripe you just posted, Hamas has killed many more of its own citizens. They're a great cause.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;45790717]Even if you want to believe that load of tripe you just posted, [B]Hamas has killed many more of its own citizens.[/B] They're a great cause.[/QUOTE] While these 20 or so extrajudicial executions are acts of horrendous abuse, please don't try to use the relatively-lower number of suspected treasonous individuals killed as an example that Hamas exceeds Israel in "killing many more of its own citizens" [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation[/URL] Pointing out how pro-Israeli loons tend use Hamas as a means to evade accountability for the death of innocents is not "supporting Hamas" -- though the frequency of this argument being brought up ends up revealing the core intentions of this repeated "deflection/justify/self-inflicted" attitude.