Sharpton Calls 'Emergency Meeting' over the lack of black Oscar nominations
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[QUOTE]Though "Selma" was nominated for Best Picture, its director and leading actors were not on the lists, prompting Sharpton to slam the choices as "appallingly insulting."For the first time since 1998, all of the nominees in the Best Actor/Actress and Best Supporting Actor/Actress categories are white.
"In the time of Staten Island and Ferguson, to have one of the most shutout Oscar nights in recent memory is something that is incongruous," he said.
Martha MacCallum discussed Sharpton's most recent playing of the race card with Deroy Murdock and Richard Fowler.
She asked Fowler why the nominations can't just be about the best movies and performances, calling it "ridiculous" to bring race into the discussion when "Selma" was on the Best Picture list. [/QUOTE]
[url]http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/01/16/sharpton-calls-emergency-meeting-oscar-snubs-black-actors[/url]
You have got to be kidding me.
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It's people like this that are so anti-racist that they just become more focused on race then most people should be and thus ironically are racist themselves.
On the one hand, a movie getting nominated for Best Picture with none of the actors, director, or screenplay writer being nominated is very unusual.
On the other hand, 12 Years a Slave won big last year so I don't really see this being an issue over race.
What a non-issue. Why would you care so much about the Oscars? It is basically watching rich people get awards for 2 hours or whatever.
I despise Sharpton as much as everybody else, but there's a real problem with race in Hollywood. I don't think the Oscars are really indicative of it, considering that 12 Years a Slave raked it in last year, but there's still a huge issue with it.
Chris Rock wrote an essay over it: [url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/top-five-filmmaker-chris-rock-753223[/url]
There could be a casting call for a really desired role, and the default would be "white." Black people rarely get roles unless they're specified as a black character. Black women barely exist in hollywood. If Hollywood wasn't racist, you'd see black actors playing roles that aren't specified as black characters - but you don't see that, you see them shoved into "black person" roles that are written to play on stereotypes. It's rare to see a black guy just be a guy in Hollywood - they're almost always in roles that couldn't be replaced by a white guy without a difference.
I saw the movie. It just wasn't up to par in those categories. Selma against Birdman and Nightcrawler's lead actor? Hahahahaha
I think the real issue someone like him should point out is that black movie talent only gets recognized with awards in the context of topics like slavery or racism. The reason you don't have a black actor nominated in a leading role is because black actors don't get leading roles per se, they get leading roles in movies about racism or slavery.
It's hard to get nominated if you don't get a chance to play the part. Which leads to a self fulfilling prophecy. Movie producers and studios won't put actors in roles unless they can draw an audience. But an actor can't make a name and pull in an audience without getting roles.
Just die already.
please god.
I'll never understand why people idolize Sharpton. He's literally on par with a Grand Wizard of the KKK in terms of batshit insanity.
As for the issue at hand... If the issue is the fact that African-Americans are rarely looked at for main roles, the reality is that the amount of literature and scripts being used by Hollywood is probably lacking in main characters of a black skin color, and if such is the case. It's a non-issue.
The only way this problem will be resolved is by having different script writers and different story makers come along, and bring out amazing stories that could be put forth to make an amazing movie. Otherwise, yes. You will not see many awards being given out to black people in the movie industry, because realistically they are not involved in that many movies/stories in the first place.
All of which is the fault of the writers who are probably not interested in creating a token boy story just to appease for the grammy awards. All of this can be resolved when a writer decides to make a black man the main character. It's really that simple.
Like the Oscars are indicative of anything other than rich elitests giving themselves awards and pats on their own backs
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;46949819]I'll never understand why people idolize Sharpton. He's literally on par with a Grand Wizard of the KKK in terms of batshit insanity.
As for the issue at hand... If the issue is the fact that African-Americans are rarely looked at for main roles, the reality is that the amount of literature and scripts being used by Hollywood is probably lacking in main characters of a black skin color, and if such is the case. It's a non-issue.
The only way this problem will be resolved is by having different script writers and different story makers come along, and bring out amazing stories that could be put forth to make an amazing movie. Otherwise, yes. You will not see many awards being given out to black people in the movie industry, because realistically they are not involved in that many movies/stories in the first place.
All of which is the fault of the writers who are probably not interested in creating a token boy story just to appease for the grammy awards. All of this can be resolved when a writer decides to make a black man the main character. It's really that simple.[/QUOTE]
The idea that you need to make a "token" character instead of just casting your character as a black guy is racist in itself. The main character in Interstellar could be black - you don't have to change any dialogue or anything for that to happen. The main character in almost any story could be black or asian or anything else without changing dialogue - the idea that you need to "write for black actors" is racist as fuck. They're the same - it has absolutely nothing to do with the writer, it has to do with the casting. Look at any film where race isn't mentioned (most of them), and any character could be black.
The very idea that black people need to be written differently than white people is inherently racist and it's fucking everywhere in Hollywood.
Maybe they should just introduce a best black actor award, would he like that?
Maybe he should start an actors career, because he can really act in roles like being a jackass
Why is it always the black people that are mentioned as being oppressed, what about all the other minorities? Why aren't there any nominations of asian people? What about mexicans?
And get the Lego movie nominated for best animated movie while you're at it
[QUOTE=Impact1986;46951336]Maybe he should start an actors career, because he can really act in roles like being a jackass
Why is it always the black people that are mentioned as being oppressed, what about all the other minorities? Why aren't there any nominations of asian people? What about mexicans?[/QUOTE]
Because the white man ain't gettin' them down, man.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;46950247]The idea that you need to make a "token" character instead of just casting your character as a black guy is racist in itself. The main character in Interstellar could be black - you don't have to change any dialogue or anything for that to happen. The main character in almost any story could be black or asian or anything else without changing dialogue - the idea that you need to "write for black actors" is racist as fuck. They're the same - it has absolutely nothing to do with the writer, it has to do with the casting. Look at any film where race isn't mentioned (most of them), and any character could be black.
The very idea that black people need to be written differently than white people is inherently racist and it's fucking everywhere in Hollywood.[/QUOTE]
Most people refuse to accept that though, and unless you clarify a description of the person within the story, ie. "Issac was a young African-American man from southern Louisiana, who decided to join a AnSoc militia group in order to help Cuban refugees come into Louisiana" without the description in place, you can literally bet that they'll go, "OH LOOK IT'S A WHITE RUSSIAN TEEN WHO'S HELPING CUBAN REFUGEES :333" and that's how it'll be if the script becomes a movie. Relatively speaking, being able to describe what your characters look like within the script can go for miles in the respective development of a script. Not sure if it's an issue in the script community, but in writing books and such, you are expected to give a brief description of the character. In doing so you establish a picture for the reader to put in their heads regarding this person.
When you are making a script though it seems, you honestly cannot do that. It may be better to create a book, and send it out as a script, so that everyone gets the memo that certain characters are different.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;46949541]I despise Sharpton as much as everybody else, but there's a real problem with race in Hollywood. I don't think the Oscars are really indicative of it, considering that 12 Years a Slave raked it in last year, but there's still a huge issue with it.
Chris Rock wrote an essay over it: [url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/top-five-filmmaker-chris-rock-753223[/url]
There could be a casting call for a really desired role, and the default would be "white." Black people rarely get roles unless they're specified as a black character. Black women barely exist in hollywood. If re wasn't racist, you'd see black actors playing roles that aren't specified as black characters - but you don't see that, you see them shoved into "black person" roles that are written to play on stereotypes. It's rare to see a black guy just be a guy in Hollywood - they're almost always in roles that couldn't be replaced by a white guy without a difference.[/QUOTE]
holy shit, I've never realized that...
This quote annoys me specifically.
[QUOTE]In the time of Staten Island and Ferguson, to have one of the most shutout Oscar nights in recent memory is something that is incongruous.[/QUOTE]
As if to imply that the judges should sit there and go "Hm... The crisis in Ferguson happened recently... I think we should nominate some black people to balance out society."
I understand that there's a dumb concept where it's rare to see a black actor play a charcter where the plot doesn't specifically reference their race. His specific issue, though, is terrible. Sorry, the people who earned those nominations just all happen to be white. Shit sucks. Could we use more black people in mainstream Hollywood? Absolutely.
The only emergency here is the large amount of gang violence Mr.Sharpton. Of course thats just not urgent enough for a meeting is it?
[QUOTE]For the first time since 1998, all of the nominees in the Best Actor/Actress and Best Supporting Actor/Actress categories are white.[/QUOTE]
One year out of 15 there are no black nominees, truly this is a big racism issue.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;46949541]I despise Sharpton as much as everybody else, but there's a real problem with race in Hollywood. I don't think the Oscars are really indicative of it, considering that 12 Years a Slave raked it in last year, but there's still a huge issue with it.
Chris Rock wrote an essay over it: [url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/top-five-filmmaker-chris-rock-753223[/url]
There could be a casting call for a really desired role, and the default would be "white." Black people rarely get roles unless they're specified as a black character. Black women barely exist in hollywood. If Hollywood wasn't racist, you'd see black actors playing roles that aren't specified as black characters - but you don't see that, you see them shoved into "black person" roles that are written to play on stereotypes. It's rare to see a black guy just be a guy in Hollywood - they're almost always in roles that couldn't be replaced by a white guy without a difference.[/QUOTE]
Expect it to only get worse for one simple reason. Hollywood movies are getting more and more reliant on overseas viewers and Europe and in particular Asia respond significantly worse to blacks.
(I won't be talking about asia here since I don't know the reason why)
In Europe it's really due to racism but more due to the fact that the people can't connect as easily to the characters or don't find them attractive. It's much easier to put your shoes into someone who has the same skin colour as 90-99% of the population of your country.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;46953301]Expect it to only get worse for one simple reason. Hollywood movies are getting more and more reliant on overseas viewers and Europe and in particular Asia respond significantly worse to blacks.
(I won't be talking about asia here since I don't know the reason why)
In Europe it's really due to racism but more due to the fact that the people can't connect as easily to the characters or don't find them attractive. It's much easier to put your shoes into someone who has the same skin colour as 90-99% of the population of your country.[/QUOTE]
No, it's racist for a company to want to make movies that makes them more money.
The Walking Dead has race right.
[SP]Every time a black character dies another one takes their place the minute after.[/SP]
[QUOTE=MissZoey;46953500]The Walking Dead has race right.
[SP]Every time a black character dies another one takes their place the minute after.[/SP][/QUOTE]
Walking Dead is an awful show and that's the least of their problems.
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