Video shows Islamist rebels executing 11 Syrian soldiers
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[QUOTE](Reuters) - A video published on Thursday showed fighters of the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front in Syria executing 11 men they accused of taking part in massacres by President Bashar al-Assad's forces.
The film is believed to be from eastern Deir al-Zor province and dates from some time in 2012, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an opposition monitoring group.
The Observatory's head, Rami Abdelrahman, said the Nusra Front has recently been releasing several videos of their past operations. He said the man seen executing the prisoners in the video - a Nusra commander - had been killed in March 2013 in battles with local tribes in the province.
The footage shows the commander, his face covered in a black balaclava, shooting each prisoner in the back of the head as they kneeled, blindfolded and lined up in a row in the sand.
"The sharia court for the eastern region in Deir al-Zor has sentenced to death these apostate soldiers that committed massacres against our brothers and families in Syria," the executioner said on the video.
Islamist militants with black flags shouted "God is great" as each man was shot. The executioner returned to some victims, firing more bullets into them to make sure they were dead.
Videos of executions and torture have become increasingly common in Syria, where more than 94,000 people have been killed in a conflict now in its third year, according to the British-based Observatory, which has a network of activists in Syria.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/16/us-syria-crisis-executions-idUSBRE94F0AM20130516[/url]
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[video=youtube;kTWFk4wa9HA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTWFk4wa9HA[/video]
It looks like one of the guys on the left (in all black) dodge getting hit and may have played dead... I wonder if he did dodge the bullet and survived?
[QUOTE=HkSniper;40673768]It looks like one of the guys on the left (in all black) dodge getting hit and may have played dead... I wonder if he did dodge the bullet and survived?[/QUOTE]
I see a whole lot of blood on the ground below him.
At least they didn't pin them down and cut their heads off with a knife like as what happens there sometimes.
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[QUOTE=HkSniper;40673768]It looks like one of the guys on the left (in all black) dodge getting hit and may have played dead... I wonder if he did dodge the bullet and survived?[/QUOTE]
I saw a spray of blood behind his head, he didn't survive. Even if he did dodge it, they go back around and do another shot to be sure.
what a great country
i was going to make a snarky "freedom fighters" joke, but is there actually anyone left that thinks that the syrian rebels aren't a bunch of assholes?
They do this everyday, to women and children on the streets too, it never ends.
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;40673924]i was going to make a snarky "freedom fighters" joke, but is there actually anyone left that thinks that the syrian rebels aren't a bunch of assholes?[/QUOTE]
-snip after reading more of the article-
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;40673924]i was going to make a snarky "freedom fighters" joke, but is there actually anyone left that thinks that the syrian rebels aren't a bunch of assholes?[/QUOTE]
Not all factions of the Syrian resistance are islamist extremists, and not all of them are executing POW's.
[QUOTE=Jawalt;40673946]Can you make judgments just from an execution video? You do not know what these men have done, or the circumstances under which this video was taken. It is wholly possible that these men are war criminals, but also quite possible it's a bunch of bs. At least these men were killed fairly humanely, as humane as execution gets I guess. I am not a proponent of execution, but sometimes in war things must happen.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't fucking matter what the men they're executing did. Doesn't matter if they raped 100 women and burnt down a school full of orphans. Executing POW's is a war crime and absolutely despicable. The fact you're seemingly OK with POW's being executed because they might have been bad people is pretty disgusting.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40673965]Not all factions of the Syrian resistance are islamist extremists, and not all of them are executing POW's.
Doesn't fucking matter what the men they're executing did. Doesn't matter if they raped 100 women and burnt down a school full of orphans. Executing POW's is a war crime and absolutely despicable. The fact you're seemingly OK with POW's being executed because they might have been bad people is pretty disgusting.[/QUOTE]
I wrote that post before reading the majority of the article, and with war it is a little fucking blurry. What do you do with 10 men who raped and sacked a village? Do you send them off to some imaginary prison you and your 20 man team of resistance members don't have? Feed and clothe them for possibly years during the conflict? This of course not applying to the article itself, but it's a good question.
[QUOTE=Jawalt;40674023]I wrote that post before reading the majority of the article, and with war it is a little fucking blurry. What do you do with 10 men who raped and sacked a village? Do you send them off to some imaginary prison you and your 20 man team of resistance members don't have? Feed and clothe them for possibly years during the conflict? This of course not applying to the article itself, but it's a good question.[/QUOTE]
You turn off the camera and take them into a back alley.
War isn't pretty and there's only so much you can do, but filming the execution isn't helping anyone. How do they expect western support if they keep breaking western ROE.
Good, IMO they deserve death for supporting an obviously oppressive and murderous regime.
[QUOTE=SnakeHead;40674057]Good, IMO they deserve death for supporting an obviously oppressive and murderous regime.[/QUOTE]
The irony in your statement...
[QUOTE=Jawalt;40674023]I wrote that post before reading the majority of the article, and with war it is a little fucking blurry. What do you do with 10 men who raped and sacked a village? Do you send them off to some imaginary prison you and your 20 man team of resistance members don't have? Feed and clothe them for possibly years during the conflict? This of course not applying to the article itself, but it's a good question.[/QUOTE]
committing a war crime is never an option, regardless of circumstance
Animals.
[QUOTE=SnakeHead;40674057]Good, IMO they deserve death for supporting an obviously oppressive and murderous regime.[/QUOTE]
Because you totally have the full story, and know exactly what they did, why they did it, and whether they actually did it or not.
Even if they did commit those crimes, they don't deserve death, no-one does.
i would say animals if the executioner wasn't such a bad fucking shot.
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they're like animals that don't know what the fuck they're doing.
offscreen i bet it actually takes like three guys to operate that pistol. the guy executing was simply one of the three that knew how to pull the trigger.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40673965]Not all factions of the Syrian resistance are islamist extremists, and not all of them are executing POW's.
Doesn't fucking matter what the men they're executing did. Doesn't matter if they raped 100 women and burnt down a school full of orphans. Executing POW's is a war crime and absolutely despicable. The fact you're seemingly OK with POW's being executed because they might have been bad people is pretty disgusting.[/QUOTE]
Rebel forces generally lack the cohesion or facilities necessary to effectively house POW's.
Rebel forces can't even hope to actually meet the requirements of the Geneva conventions for POW treatment.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Geneva_Convention[/url]
Basically the very act of rebellion violates the Geneva conventions.
Nobody ever anywhere follows the Geneva conventions. Nor should they.
You want to be outraged, great, the rebels are likely a bunch of worthless assholes, but just call them dicks. Don't pretend like you have some useful legal backing for it. They are facing each other in a battle to the death, getting offended because they aren't following the ridiculous set of rules that nobody ever follows anyways is silly.
[QUOTE=Cone;40674093]committing a war crime is never an option, regardless of circumstance[/QUOTE]
Say that when you're fighting for your life like an animal is some backwoods ass desert where the infrastructure is crumbling around you and you have to make the decision to house prisoners who have done heinous things, and at a loss to you, or execute them. If it's me? I put them down. It is a dog eat dog world there, and shit happens.
I can totally see how easy it is to type up that sentence in a heated home in the dim glow of a monitor where food and water are never a question, though.
'Good guys'
[QUOTE=dunkace;40674226]'Good guys'[/QUOTE]
To be fair they never claimed to be morally grounded or ethical. And the regime their fighting has a few human rights violations as well.
You can tell when your the good guys when you hide your faces as you kill.
[QUOTE=dunkace;40674226]'Good guys'[/QUOTE]
if youre looking for good guys a bloody civil war is the wrong place to look
[QUOTE=dunkace;40674226]'Good guys'[/QUOTE]
hi my name is dunkace and i do not understand that there are multiple factions struggling for power in Syria
[QUOTE=snapshot32;40674255]To be fair they never claimed to be morally grounded or ethical. And the regime their fighting has a few human rights violations as well.[/QUOTE]
the syrian government is still probably the greater of two evils by this point.
[QUOTE=SnakeHead;40674057]Good, IMO they deserve death for supporting an obviously oppressive and murderous regime.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I suppose what is literally Al-Qaeda in Syria executing POWs is cool then
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40673965]Not all factions of the Syrian resistance are islamist extremists, and not all of them are executing POW's.
Doesn't fucking matter what the men they're executing did. Doesn't matter if they raped 100 women and burnt down a school full of orphans. Executing POW's is a war crime and absolutely despicable. The fact you're seemingly OK with POW's being executed because they might have been bad people is pretty disgusting.[/QUOTE]
Executing POW's is not a war crime in all cases, an exception is made when a POW kills a guard of the detaining power. Although in this case the Syrian soldiers aren't being recognized as POW's since the rebels are not a legal/recognized detaining power(and because they're jerks).
Thing is, this rebellion will turn Syria into another islamist state that becomes a breeding ground for this stuff.
keep in mind that these apes will lead syria after the fall of the regime
the way one soldier puts his head on his buddys shoulder..this is fucking awful
Imagine what that guy felt when he pressed the gun to his head and clicked but it got jammed..
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