You smell that? That's a shitstorm brewing...
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[B]LOS ANGELES — Manny Pacquiao says he loves and supports gays and lesbians, even though he does not approve of gay marriage.[/B]
The world champion boxer and Filipino congressman has been criticized ever since he was quoted in an interview on the examiner.com website saying he opposed President Barack Obama's support for gay marriage.
Pacquiao said Wednesday in an interview with The Associated Press that he doesn't support gay marriage because of his Roman Catholic beliefs. But he said he has gay friends and relatives, and supports their rights.
"I'm not against the gay people," Pacquiao said. "I'm not condemning them. ... I have a cousin (who is) gay. I have relatives (who are) gay. I have a lot of friends (who are) gay, so I'm not condemning gays. What I said is I'm not in favor of same-sex marriage. That's the one thing I said to the guy.
"I told (the reporter) I'm against same-sex marriage," Pacquiao added. "He said, `Why?' I said, `It's the law of God.' That's all I said."
The examiner.com story contained a Bible passage from Leviticus calling for the death of "a man (who) lies with a man," and Pacquiao said many readers erroneously believed he had quoted that verse.
He said he had not, and the writer later clarified in a follow-up post that he had included the verse himself.
"My favorite verse in the Bible is `Love one another,' and `Love your neighbor as you love yourself,'" Pacquiao said. "It's in the Bible: Do not judge. I'm not judging."
Pacquiao was banned from a popular Hollywood shopping mall after the article was publicized Tuesday, and an online petition encouraging sponsor Nike to drop Pacquiao received 4,868 signatures before it was suspended Wednesday morning. The petition site, change.org, posted a note saying that the author of the original article had clarified that Pacquiao didn't cite the Bible passage.
Pacquiao spoke to the AP next to his pool at his comfortable Los Angeles home, where the congressman lives while training for fights at Freddie Roach's Wild Card Gym in Hollywood. The champion had the day off from training, spending the morning in medical exams before a big lunch and some relaxation.
Although Pacquiao is experiencing a newfound passion for his religion and has socially conservative views in line with many Filipinos' beliefs, he was eager to clear his name after a 24-hour avalanche of criticism over the belief that the eight-division world champion boxer had denounced gay rights and even supported the killing of gay people.
Although he opposes same-sex marriage, Pacquiao declined to weigh in on civil unions, the internationally popular alternative, saying he didn't know enough about the concept to form an opinion.
"It's hard to give a correct answer to what's the right situation," he said.
The expansive Los Angeles mall known as The Grove, where the syndicated entertainment-news show "Extra" films its episodes, wouldn't allow Pacquiao to film a segment on its premises, worrying that an appearance by the boxer could be disruptive. Host Mario Lopez, an avid boxing fan, instead filmed an interview with Pacquiao at the fighter's home.
Pacquiao chuckled at the knowledge that his words — even words he said he didn't say — carry more weight than those of an average athlete because of his political aspirations.
"With great power comes great responsibility, so that's my responsibility, to handle everything," Pacquiao said. "This has happened before. You have to explain and understand. It's a lot more fun to train (for a fight)."
Pacquiao is the Philippines' most famous person and one of the world's most popular athletes. The eight-division world champion is a movie star, singer, pitchman and congressman, representing the Sarangani province in the Philippines' House of Representatives since May 2010.
He has won 16 consecutive fights since March 2005, beating Oscar De La Hoya, Juan Manuel Marquez, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley and Antonio Margarito. He will defend his WBO welterweight title against Timothy Bradley on June 9 in Las Vegas.
Pacquiao has embraced Catholicism in recent months after marital trouble with his wife, Jinkee. Although he has always attended Mass before his fights, the boxer has taken up frequent Bible study, and he traveled from the Philippines to the U.S. in the company of a spiritual adviser and pastor, Jeric Soriano, now a regular presence in Pacquiao's life in Los Angeles and the Philippines.
"It's difficult sometimes, but God gave me a talent," Pacquiao said. "He gave me a wisdom and a knowledge."
Although Pacquiao has some conservative social views, he also has ties to progressive American politicians, including Nevada Sen. Harry Reid. The boxer campaigned for the Democratic majority leader during his tough re-election victory over Sharron Angle in 2010.
Pacquiao also visited Obama at the White House last year, discussing basketball and boxing. The fighter says he enjoyed meeting Obama, but didn't share his views on same-sex marriage.
Pacquiao is the fourth of six children born into poverty in the Philippines, and he has four children of his own with his wife. He has spoken out against birth control during his political career, affirming his Roman Catholic faith.
Floyd Mayweather Jr., Pacquiao's only rival for pound-for-pound supremacy in boxing, took to Twitter on Wednesday to tout his own beliefs.
"I stand behind President Obama & support gay marriage," Mayweather tweeted. "I'm an American citizen & I believe people should live their life the way they want."[/quote]
Well at least he's halfway there.
At least he's not completely against gays.
Also, fuck Floyd; he's that kinda guy who would take advantage of this situation just to bring Pacquiao down, not to mention he's cocky as fuck.
To be fair a lot of Catholics nowadays are like that: They don't actually hate gay people, they just don't want to support "Marriage" between them. It's really the radicals within the group that tend to get all riled up about it.
Personally, I'm all for Civil Unions and giving these couples all their medical and financial rights that come with being a couple, etc., and I'm perfectly fine with letting them live their lives like that. I just personally can't bring myself to call it a "Marriage" because I just don't feel the same thing as a man and woman getting married. Just call it a Civil Union.
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;35994548]To be fair a lot of Catholics nowadays are like that: They don't actually hate gay people, they just don't want to support "Marriage" between them. It's really the radicals within the group that tend to get all riled up about it.
Personally, I'm all for Civil Unions and giving these couples all their medical and financial rights that come with being a couple, etc., and I'm perfectly fine with letting them live their lives like that. I just personally can't bring myself to call it a "Marriage".[/QUOTE]
It is a marriage though. There shouldn't be a double standard on it.
[QUOTE=Nikota;35994560]It is a marriage though. There shouldn't be a double standard on it.[/QUOTE]
I really don't see the problem with just calling it a Civil Union.
because its seperating gays and non gays
there shouldnt be any difference between the two, whether or not its just a title or not
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;35994594]I really don't see the problem with just calling it a Civil Union.[/QUOTE]
Because the whole "separate but equal" thing is bullshit.
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;35994594]I really don't see the problem with just calling it a Civil Union.[/QUOTE]
well of course and that's because you probably don't see them as married, they're just butt-buddies right?
because marriage is a devotion and a beautiful romantic gesture, while gay people just want to have butt sex in the same house.
yeah i don't see the problem with calling it a civil union either...
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;35994548]To be fair a lot of Catholics nowadays are like that: They don't actually hate gay people, they just don't want to support "Marriage" between them. It's really the radicals within the group that tend to get all riled up about it.
Personally, I'm all for Civil Unions and giving these couples all their medical and financial rights that come with being a couple, etc., and I'm perfectly fine with letting them live their lives like that. I just personally can't bring myself to call it a "Marriage" because I just don't feel the same thing as a man and woman getting married. Just call it a Civil Union.[/QUOTE]
Why do you think that marriage is between a man and a woman,again?
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;35994548]Personally, I'm all for Civil Unions and giving these couples all their medical and financial rights that come with being a couple, etc., and I'm perfectly fine with letting them live their lives like that. I just personally can't bring myself to call it a "Marriage" because I just don't feel the same thing as a man and woman getting married. Just call it a Civil Union.[/QUOTE]
If you're really so hung up on whether it's called 'marriage' or a 'civil union', especially if they end up being the same thing, then you probably have more prejudice than you realize.
I'll give Manny the benefit of the doubt because he's a swell guy. It's most likely he's oldschool and raised up in a Catholic backround.
You don't necessarily have to be so outspoken about same-sex marriage but I do know in Catholic belief that it is unrighteous as written in the Bible. Same thing with my Christian backround.
But still, that does not give him and I the right to pass judgement on them. If that is their wish, I have no problem with that honestly. It's the radicals and extremists who have a clouded viewpoint on the topic
[QUOTE=HazeFyer23;35994503]At least he's not completely against gays.
Also, I dunno about Floyd; he's that kinda guy who would take advantage of this situation just to bring Pacquiao down, not to mention he's cocky as fuck.[/QUOTE]
I don't like him. He keeps saying he can take on Pacquiao anytime and how Pacman only fights his leftovers, but wusses out when he's being challenged by him
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;35994548]To be fair a lot of Catholics nowadays are like that: They don't actually hate gay people, they just don't want to support "Marriage" between them. It's really the radicals within the group that tend to get all riled up about it.
Personally, I'm all for Civil Unions and giving these couples all their medical and financial rights that come with being a couple, etc., and I'm perfectly fine with letting them live their lives like that. I just personally can't bring myself to call it a "Marriage" because I just don't feel the same thing as a man and woman getting married. Just call it a Civil Union.[/QUOTE]
It's like with black people. I have nothing against them, I just don't want them to marry. I feel like marriage is only for white people, and it wouldn't be the same as when two white people get married.
why is this meathead brain-damaged bible thumping moron a fucking congressman
Same sex marriage should exist for marriages issued by the government, and if you want it to be religious then you should need to go get it certified/have a ceremony with that church or priest. So churches by themselves could refuse gay marriage but you could still get married by the government.
we should just have the government officially call every marriage, including hetereosexual and same sex, a 'Civil Union', and the people can unofficially can call it whatever they want
[quote]"I told (the reporter) I'm against same-sex marriage," Pacquiao added. "He said, `Why?' I said, `It's the law of God.' That's all I said."[/quote]
speechless.
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;35994594]I really don't see the problem with just calling it a Civil Union.[/QUOTE]
I don't see a problem with calling them "white bathrooms" and "black bathrooms". See what I'm getting at?
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I don't like him. He keeps saying he can take on Pacquiao anytime and how Pacman only fights his leftovers, but wusses out when he's being challenged by him[/QUOTE]
He's nothing but a overly-confident douchebag, albeit fearful of Pacquiao at the same time, as he doesn't want to ruin his perfect 43 win-0 loss record.
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