#IStandWithAhmed: "The whole family is stupid and they duped us"
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Here is an article debunking the alarm clock:
[URL="http://www.infowars.com/video-man-debunks-clock-kid-by-recreating-ahmeds-clock-in-20-seconds/"]http://www.infowars.com/video-man-debunks-clock-kid-by-recreating-ahmeds-clock-in-20-seconds/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Yes - this is old news, but anybody who doesn't not know the full story deserves to know. I found it how disgusting how skewed the media is to favor people playing the victim.
"The whole family is stupid and they duped us"
so are they tricky masterminds or idiots? which is it
You linked Infowars like it's going to help you out or something.
oh great cuntvin mccunts again here we go
you're linking infowars as a legit source
you sure you're not the one that needs to be educated here?
Ohh Al-Taquiyya, that's right. I have no idea about this "TheRebel" thing, but when Al-Taquiyya was mentioned, credibility just exploded. I'm not into this "Islamophobia" deal (because I don't consider being wary of people who are serious about Islam irrational), but that stuff is a textbook example of something being taken entirely out of context and then presented as a conspiracy.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;50428168]you're linking infowars as a legit source
you sure you're not the one that needs to be educated here?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Banned?;50428158]You linked Infowars like it's going to help you out or something.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ExTek;50428162]oh great cuntvin mccunts again here we go[/QUOTE]
You guys are so right. On facepunch the valid sources are: Salon, Slate, Huffpost and Vice.
But to be honest, no sources needed. The kid is professional victim.
I have a pretty high tolerance for whiny, egotistic, douchebaggery and even I can't stand rebelmedia
he's just such a smarmy condescending jackoff
if the only sources you can muster are king cunt and alex "super saiyan" jones' blog then I'm going to have to take your opinion with a grain of salt
how are we still hearing about some kid who made ([I]or didn't????)[/I] a clock
[QUOTE=dmc12;50428193]You guys are so right. On facepunch the valid sources are: Salon, Slate, Huffpost and Vice.
But to be honest, no sources needed. The kid is professional victim.[/QUOTE]
Sources, especially valid ones, are kinda needed to prove that this guy was in fact a con artist.
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really if you're going to trust the director of such fine films as "MARTIAL LAW 9-11: RISE OF THE POLICE STATE" to manage a truthful and unbiased perspective of an event then really i don't know what to say
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50428264]Sources, especially valid ones, are kinda needed to prove that this guy was in fact a con artist.
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really if you're going to trust the director of such fine films as "MARTIAL LAW 9-11: RISE OF THE POLICE STATE" to manage a truthful and unbiased perspective of an event then really i don't know what to say[/QUOTE]"Police State 3: Total Enslavement" sounds like a great 80s action movie though.
Like, that list just seems like comedy gold honestly, probably days of entertainment.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50428328]"Police State 3: Total Enslavement" sounds like a great 80s action movie though.
Like, that list just seems like comedy gold honestly, probably days of entertainment.[/QUOTE]
The list isn't entertainment. Most are documentaries like this one:
[url]http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/martial-law-911/[/url]
[quote]STORYLINE
Martial Law 9/11: The Rise of the Police State
If you don't know who Alex Jones is, you will never forget him after watching this ground-shaking documentary about the creeping police state in the United States.
Know that the north and south towers of the World Trade Center Complex were not the only two buildings to collapse that day? Did you know a third one collapsed hours after the collapses of the twin towers?
How did this third building collapse if it wasn't hit by an airplane? Loose Change raises such questions and other blatant contradictions about the official 9/11 story fed to us by the government and media. By far one of the most comprehensive documentaries questioning what really happened on 9/11 and who should really be held accountable.[/quote]
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Oh misread your post. I thought you said that these were made during the "days of entertainment", not that they provided days of entertainment.
[QUOTE=dmc12;50428193]But to be honest, no sources needed.[/QUOTE]
Lol how are you going to want to have anyone take you seriously with this
I thought we already discussed this topic to death?
-kid disassembles an ordinary alarm clock
-brings it forever what reason to school in a suit case, probably wanted to fuck with people and underestimated how serious this would be, because he's an ordinary dumb kid
-teacher reacts absolutely appropriately after hearing strange noises coming from the suitcase and seeing how the inside looks like
-because it wasn't actually a bomb SJWs claim it was entirely racist to act that way and that it was islamophobic or something
-wave of people defending either the teacher or Ahmed and PRETEND he is a genius who built an entire clock on his own
-people who defend Ahmed entirely build their arguments around how you can only be racist if you don't support Ahmed
-Ahmed's family doesn't say anything because as big as this story got it would be too embarrassing to admit that their son was actually just being a dumbass who basically did a prank
-family gets shit ton of free stuff
Not to mention that welding a circuit like this personally is tedious as fuck, because you have to be very precise otherwise you ruin the entire device. That's why this is done by robots and not by people.
You can just look at a circuit and immediately tell if it was made by a person or not. If the circuit is overseeable and has much space between the components it's man made. If it's very tight and compact it's industrial.
I never actually knew what any of this clock kid stuff was when it was going on but that's it? A kid ripped a clock out of it's housing and brought it to school in a suitcase? It's somehow racist that any not tech literate teacher sees a beeping suitcase and opens it to find a large square plastic covered part with a bunch of wires coming out and thinks it might be a bomb?
Catch one rebelmedia video and suddenly you browse InfoWars.
The video is pretty shit, the guy talking on it is unbearable, and the idea that he did this maliciously (Particularly as part of a "jihad", ugh) sounds very unlikely. I don't think the kid really even knew what he was doing, I don't think he went out of his way to become an America media sensation, and obviously the whole reason he got so much coverage was because of how easy it was to spin the story.
I don't know why he "built" the "clock" nor I think anybody else but him or his family can know. I highly doubt that his dad deliberately pushed him to do this just so he could get some media coverage (I mean, it's possible, particularly since he seems to know how to use Muslim issues to get himself on the spotlight, it's just far fetched), I think the story just blew up far too quick and had way too much outreach for him to tell the truth.
Although some what is on infowars and Rebel Media is quite subjective, a lot of truth comes from what they say. It is completely undeniable that this was done on purpose. I wanted to share this so that people can understand how stories can get skewed sometimes.
Here are some notable points:
1. The clock is literally the innards of a clock bought from Radioshack. (The custom circuit board proves so) Look at the video and it is pretty easy to see.
2. Why would you have a plug on the clock still? For the clock to have gone off in class he would have had to set the alarm specifically for that time after plugging it in.
3. Why would you put the clock in a suitcase as if you are trying to conceal it? You have to be delusional to think that isnt suspicious at all.
It is undeniable that this clock looked like a bomb. The teacher did what she thought was right by contacting the authorities.
I am sure the kid knew what he was doing.
I also included different sources of information (Gavin, Infowars, and the remaking of the clock). I felt the remaking of the clock was more credible evidence being that it is an almost exact replica of the clock made by Ahmed.
The primairy reason why I cited infowars was because I found the video and picture of the replica clock on there. I found the infowars article after the Gavin McInnes video, which mentioned it. Gavin's video in my opinion wasn't very strong of an argument until the mention of the engineers who debunked it.
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[QUOTE=dmc12;50428193]You guys are so right. On facepunch the valid sources are: Salon, Slate, Huffpost and Vice.
But to be honest, no sources needed. The kid is professional victim.[/QUOTE]
Gavin is a founder of vice funnily enougb.
vice sucks so that makes a lot of sense actually
[QUOTE=dimitrik129;50429347]Although some what is on infowars and Rebel Media is quite subjective, a lot of truth comes from what they say. It is completely undeniable that this was done on purpose. I wanted to share this so that people can understand how stories can get skewed sometimes.[/QUOTE]
Just simply searching up "What is infowars" on google showed me Alex Jones with a title in a summary of his work with "Conspiracy theorist" (claimed by New York Magazine, and Southern Poverty law center), this guy's information is very unreliable and should not be used to back up ANY claim.
Rebel Media holds a conservative bias, it's not reliable to use information from this program due to the fashion in which evidence would be presented, by the way while watching the video from them above I could not find specific places like Alisian Alwatani.com and so forth by searching, and he uses someone's twitter video to help back himself up (@talbot_MD).
If you actually watched Vice by the way, you should know that the way information is presented is entirely different to that of Rebel Media, the information produced by documentaries put out by Vice is done by interviewing or communicating with individuals involved with it's topic at hand and directly showing the effects of events directly to viewers, unlike Rebel Media where the reporter (Gavin himself) is throwing information at you from sources such as Fox News, and other right wing/conservative sources.
Look you don't need some silly source from infowars media to figure out that the whole clock incident is contrived.
It isn't that hard to figure out once you look into the dad's history, how the clock was built, and how the kid presents himself in interviews that there is more to it then just a amiable, "I built a clock cause I love science" angle.
The kid showed it to one teacher who told him to respectfully put it away, and then he had to set the alarm for the second teacher to notice while having it plugged in the wall. He wanted someone to notice.
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