Texas Judge refuses to throw out the case of the Leauge of Legends teen making "terroristic threats, - Polidicks

[URL]http://www.gamespot.com/articles/case-against-league-of-legends-player-who-reportedly-made-terrorist-threat-to-move-forward/1100-6416847/[/URL] [quote]The case against a Texas teenager who was[URL="http://www.gamespot.com/articles/texas-teen-jailed-after-league-of-legends-argument/1100-6410871/"] jailed after an argument from League of Legends spilled over onto Facebook[/URL] is going to move forward. [B]A judge denied the motion to dismiss the case against 19-year-old Justin Carter this week[/B], as reported by [URL="http://www.kens5.com/news/texas-news/Case-against-teen-accused-of-making-terroristic-threats-to-proceed-237068591.html"]Texas news site KENS5[/URL].Carter was arrested in March after he said on Facebook following a League of Legends match that he was going to "shoot up" a school and "eat their still, beating hearts," according to his father.[B] He reportedly followed up these comments with "LOL" and "JK."[/B] A woman in Canada saw his comments and informed the police, who arrested Carter for making a terrorist threat.[/quote] Texas' judiciary demonstrating once again that they're fucking retarded. The fun part is the prosecutor who's going to be seriously examining the threats when trying to build a case against him. "Your honor, Carter is a capable heart-surgeon. I recommend death, state rights etc." and how the defense will defend their case in court. Straight up you'd just ask the dipshit judge if he knows what JK means.

Fair enough

I assume they're just too embarassed to back down.

Yay, lets destroy someones life over a joke!

Don't see how any jury would send someone to jail for something that's clearly posted out of aggression and frustration from playing a competitive game.

Pretty fucked up joke if you're asking me, but not grounds to convict such a young person. Based on infinite precedent of this sort of thing happening on social networking, the judge really should've known better than to dismiss the motion.

The kid is still pretty stupid for posting that'd he'd shoot up a school in a country where that happens often.

great to see priorities are in order

Allah'u Akbar!

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;43304030]Yay, lets destroy someones life over a joke![/QUOTE] There's literally nothing funny about saying you're going to shoot up a school, joke or not. He won't be sent to Jail but he'll get a stern warning that's for sure

Why the fuck would you arrest a kid for saying something in a video game?

[QUOTE=Saturn V;43304485]Why the fuck would you arrest a kid for saying something in a video game?[/QUOTE] He said it on fucking Facebook

HE MADE TERRISTICAL THREATS, send him to gitmo i hope that fuck of a woman in canada that started this gets hit by a train filled with maple syrup (if you take this as a real threat, you are stupid)

Wow, I've said much worse in games; lets hope my life doesn't get ruined!

Wouldn't this fall under free speech?

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;43304510]He said it on fucking Facebook[/QUOTE] Yeah so?

Even though it looks like he was joking, you can never be sure. Like stated previously, it is never funny to joke about shooting up a school. What happens if he posted the comment and later did shoot up a school? You would all be saying "I thought the JK meant he was kidding" JK, LOL has no legal standing in the court system. Anyone can run into a building and scream "FIRE" and 2 seconds later say "LOL, JUST KIDDING," but that doesn't stop the fact you will be arrested for inducing panic.

I think you guys are too hasty in defending him. Let's look at what he has written: "Eat their still[B],[/B] beating hearts" I think we can all agree that he deserves a death sentence for that comma.

Their trying to make an example out of him. "lol" and "jk" dont relieve you of responsibility.

Man I'm going to shoot up a fucking beavertails over this

[QUOTE=theoneman;43304567]JK, LOL has no legal standing in the court system.[/QUOTE] Yes it absolutely does have a standing, I'm not sure where the hell you're getting your pseudo-law knowledge from but the disinformation you're spreading is deceitful at best. Simply because "JK" is abbreviated doesn't make it any less defined. Saying you're going eat hearts while they're still beating in an obviously facetious manner also to be followed by "just kidding" has perfect standing and the court will recognize this standing, this judge was just a dipshit for not throwing it out in the first place. You should probably read up on Brandenburg v. Ohio. The prosecution would have to prove that Carter's actions passed the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action"]imminent lawless action[/URL] test which would be that Carter's actions constituted an intention to violate the law in that his actions were both imminent and likely. Ignoring his obviously exaggerated-humor with regard to eating beating hearts, the simple fact that Carter said "just kidding" automatically fails the imminent lawless action test because his actions are no longer [I]likely[/I], or imminent. [QUOTE=theoneman;43304567]Anyone can run into a building and scream "FIRE" and 2 seconds later say "LOL, JUST KIDDING," but that doesn't stop the fact you will be arrested for inducing panic.[/QUOTE] You're making a ridiclously false equivalency. Shouting fire in a crowded theater incites immediate panic because the act itself incites imminent lawless action (e.g. a riot). Making a facetious threat on a passive forum to be followed with clarification indicating that it was joke is entirely different than inciting a riot at a movie theater.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;43304510]He said it on fucking Facebook[/QUOTE] wow yes clearly this changes everything, we must now hang him (hint it actually doesnt, it was still a joke, and one so extremely over the top that you'd have to be braindead not to realize it was sarcasm)

This court case is a farce. How do they prove he was "actually joking"? How do they prove he wasn't? Are they going to look through his room? Are they going to go through his text messages/e-mails/private correspondance? If he said it somewhere else six months ago does that constitute that it was a 'real threat'? If he has a BB gun does that constitute 'gathering supplies'? Just how far back and how wide can they go to 'prove' that 'clearly he was lying about it being a joke'? How much of this kid's life are they allowed to rip open and scrutinize in front of the kid's community and peers? And beyond that: What is the Court going to do if they go through this whole thing and the kid is found not guilty? "Oops, we're real sorry"? And what about the reporter of the crime: what happens to them if they find the kid not guilty? They're in another [i]country[/i] for crying out loud. [i]Nobody[/i] gains from this case moving forward. It should've been killed, the kid potentially recommended therapy/anger management in a private consultation with the judge and the kid's parents at most, and the case buried for the sake of all parties involved. Pretty soon we're going to have it so that every and any threat, whether believable or not, is going to be dragged before 'comedy court' to determine whether it was a joke or not. Talk about making a "mockery of the justice system".

As soon as I saw this was in Texas, I understood why this court case wasn't thrown out.

Any sense of sarcasm is lost when you're writing something on the internet. Nobody here or anywhere else complaining about this case seems to realize that. We're used to it by now because most of us have been on the internet now for a number of years. But when you mix people who've been on the internet for years with people who have little internet experience, it tends to not go well. Yes, it was a joke. But to anyone other than us, even with a "lol jk." The whole "oh its just a joke" thing isn't there. In general, what the kid said is not something you'd want to say in public and social media like facebook is basically like being in public at this point. If you wouldn't say it in public, don't say it on social media. Imagine if you heard what this kid said, but in real life. How would you react? You guys say it's just a joke, but you have to treat this stuff with some form of seriousness, especially given the recent turn of events of the past year. Not on the level that the cops took it. But [I]something.[/I] It's unfortunate what had to happen and it's horrible what happened to this kid.

Lol dear god.. I watched this movie last night about Google, Facebook, Apple, MSN, Microsoft, etc. and how they have subtly changed their Terms and Conditions over the past several years to open up hundreds of loopholes. Not only for them to be able to trade and sell your data (without you ever knowing) but also to enable them, or anyone else, to observe your online doings. Again, without you knowing. This just puts another nail in the lid... [quote] The case against a Texas teenager... A woman in Canada saw his comments and informed the police[/quote] What the hell? So now you can commit a crime or ill-act and be reported/phoned in by someone in an entirely different country. Someone who has never met you before, does not know you or your personality. Yet they can observe your comments and even call the authorities on you INTERNATIONALLY. What. The. Fuck. P.S. You all should watch the documentary "Terms and Conditions May Apply", 2013. [b](VERY) RELATED[/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzyafieRcWE[/media]

[QUOTE=Sableye;43304532]HE MADE TERRISTICAL THREATS, send him to gitmo i hope that fuck of a woman in canada that started this gets hit by a train filled with maple syrup (if you take this as a real threat, you are stupid)[/QUOTE] This just in... Sableye's being held in a Canadian jail. Reports came back, he just walked back out.

[QUOTE=Keys;43305176] What the hell? So now you can commit a crime or ill-act and be reported/phoned in by someone in an entirely different country. Someone who has never met you before, does not know you or your personality. Yet they can observe your comments and even call the authorities on you INTERNATIONALLY. [/QUOTE] Yea if I saw someone threatening to shoot up a school I'd probably call the proper authorities on that person. 4Chan does it all the time. Its always been like this, it hasnt changed.

[QUOTE=areolop;43305212]Yea if I saw someone threatening to shoot up a school I'd probably call the proper authorities on that person. 4Chan does it all the time. Its always been like this, it hasnt changed.[/QUOTE] [quote]He reportedly followed up these comments with "LOL" and "JK."[/quote]

10 years is too much for something like this, but people who threaten shit like this deserve some harsh punishment, no matter if they say "lol just kidding" afterwards