• Tests Find Drug-Resistant Bacteria In 18% Of Conventionally Raised Ground Beef
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[b]Tests Find Drug-Resistant Bacteria In 18% Of Conventionally Raised Ground Beef[/b] Source: [url=http://consumerist.com/2015/08/24/tests-find-drug-resistant-bacteria-in-18-of-conventionally-raised-ground-beef/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow]Consumerist[/url] ____________________ [quote][img]http://i.imgur.com/MUN4Mmh.jpg[/img] Bacteria is everywhere, so it’s no surprise that you’ll find at least some ugly little pathogens in any meat products you buy. Most of these bugs won’t survive the cooking process, especially if you get that meat up to 160 degrees before serving. But since so many people like their burgers on the rarer side, it’s smart to know the potential risks. In addition to some folks’ love of bloody burgers, there are more concerns about ground beef than standard steaks and roasts because the grinding process takes bacteria that would have existed only on those cuts’ exteriors and mixes it in with the rest of the meat and fat. For a new story in the upcoming issue of Consumer Reports, our colleagues tested 300 samples (458 pounds) of raw ground beef — 181 samples of conventionally raised beef and 119 samples produced using more sustainable processes, like antibiotic-free, organic, and grass-fed — from supermarkets, big-box, and “natural” food stores in 26 metropolitan areas across the country. Each sample was tested for five common types of bacteria associated with beef: Clostridium perfringens; E. coli (including O157 and six other toxin-producing strains); Enterococcus; Salmonella; and Staphylococcus aureus. Both conventionally raised and more sustainably produced beef demonstrated the presence of these various bacteria, and all 300 samples contained bacteria that signified fecal contamination — from enterococcus and/or non-toxin-producing E. coli — which can cause blood or urinary tract infections.[/quote] And that is why, kids, you make [i]damn[/i] sure you cook well your meat before eating (at the very least), none of that "'bloody, kicking and screaming' kinda rare" nonsense!
Why oh why would you ever eat minced/ground beef that's not fully cooked through. That's really dangerous [editline]24th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48529187][b]Tests Find Drug-Resistant Bacteria In 18% Of Conventionally Raised Ground Beef[/b] Source: [url=http://consumerist.com/2015/08/24/tests-find-drug-resistant-bacteria-in-18-of-conventionally-raised-ground-beef/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow]Consumerist[/url] ____________________ And that is why, kids, you make [i]damn[/i] sure you cook well your meat before eating (at the very least), none of that "'bloody, kicking and screaming' kinda rare" nonsense![/QUOTE] If it's not minced ie a steak cut it's okay to have it a bit uncooked in the centre
"A bit uncooked" for me is "barely any pink on the inside". I prefer my meat well done.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;48529193]Why oh why would you ever eat minced/ground beef that's not fully cooked through. That's really dangerous [editline]24th August 2015[/editline] If it's not minced ie a steak cut it's okay to have it a bit uncooked in the centre[/QUOTE] Well done or go home! We invented fire for a reason you fucking cavemen.
It doesn't matter how you like your steak, it's just that the fact is it's safe for it to be a bit uncooked in the middle. However you do have to cook the outside, and with minced beef you have to cook it all the way through.
[QUOTE=Buck.;48529213]Well done or go home! We invented fire for a reason you fucking cavemen.[/QUOTE] We tamed it so it wouldn't burn our fucking food. Go rare or fuck a mare.
[QUOTE=Buck.;48529213]Well done or go home! We invented fire for a reason you fucking cavemen.[/QUOTE] So people are cavemen because of their food preferences? Really though this is a bit concerning to read. I can only hope for it to get better. We have a serious drug/anti-biotic abuse in the medical field and farming industry to my knowledge.
It would be interesting to compare the amount of people who contract drug-resistant illnesses in, say France, where their steak is generally rare, with a country where it tends to be more well-done.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48529187][b]Tests Find Drug-Resistant Bacteria In 18% Of Conventionally Raised Ground Beef[/b] Source: [url=http://consumerist.com/2015/08/24/tests-find-drug-resistant-bacteria-in-18-of-conventionally-raised-ground-beef/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow]Consumerist[/url] ____________________ And that is why, kids, you make [i]damn[/i] sure you cook well your meat before eating (at the very least), none of that "'bloody, kicking and screaming' kinda rare" nonsense![/QUOTE] lol people dont have things like burgers rare anyway
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;48529353]lol people dont have things like burgers rare anyway[/QUOTE] I did once, but it was because I undercooked them and didn't notice until I had eaten half of it.
I just ate some perfectly raw sausage filling while preparing them for cooking. A little bit of harmless gut infection never killed anybody.
You've got to eat minced meat "well done" because during the mincing process, a vast amount of surface area is exposed to the air and subsequently, bacteria. A steak is different, only the outside is exposed to bacteria. It's perfectly fine to eat a rare steak because the outside has had all the bacteria off it killed, and the cow's immune system has made sure that the inside of the steak is perfectly fine to eat.
Hah! I new those bastard Wisconsinites had something I can mark against them! Their days of consuming cannibal sandwiches are over!
Slow cooked meat is the best. Grilling is not worth the effort.
[QUOTE=Buck.;48529213]Well done or go home! We invented fire for a reason you fucking cavemen.[/QUOTE] I find well done hard to chew Go medium or go bust
[QUOTE=doommarine23;48529302]So people are cavemen because of their food preferences? Really though this is a bit concerning to read. I can only hope for it to get better. We have a serious drug/anti-biotic abuse in the medical field and farming industry to my knowledge.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Antdawg;48529218]It doesn't matter how you like your steak, it's just that the fact is it's safe for it to be a bit uncooked in the middle. However you do have to cook the outside, and with minced beef you have to cook it all the way through.[/QUOTE] With ground meat, always cook it all the way through. You can get away with whatever pink you want in the middle with a whole piece of meat.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;48529509]Slow cooked meat is the best. Grilling is not worth the effort.[/QUOTE] But grilling is quick and easy as fuck?
[QUOTE=RockmanYoshi;48529511]I find well done hard to chew Go medium or go bust[/QUOTE] Rare is too gross, well done is tough to eat and if it's a mediocre steak it's got no flavor either. Medium is perfect. [QUOTE=Talishmar;48529509]Slow cooked meat is the best. Grilling is not worth the effort.[/QUOTE] Either way is pretty good, I don't really think grilling is that complicated/hard though? The taste of grilled meat is superior imo, but not by that much.
How about instead of "just cook your meat more" why dont we stop this at the source? Cow's stomachs arent designed to eat corn or any grains for that matter, so when they are forced to eat those types of foods in a factory farm setting their stomachs become a perfect breading ground for crazy pathogens. To combat these pathogens the cows are constantly pumped up with antibiotics, you know the same ones we use? And low and behold you have super bugs. To stop the super bugs is to stop the unsustainable factory farm practice.
[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;48530218]How about instead of "just cook your meat more" why dont we stop this at the source? Cow's stomachs arent designed to eat corn or any grains for that matter, so when they are forced to eat those types of foods in a factory farm setting their stomachs become a perfect breading ground for crazy pathogens. To combat these pathogens the cows are constantly pumped up with antibiotics, you know the same ones we use? And low and behold you have super bugs. To stop the super bugs is to stop the unsustainable factory farm practice.[/QUOTE] Playing devil's avocado here, but you're not looking at the real source. Humans aren't designed to eat meat, eg look at our teeth structure and why we have to cook meat so that it's safe for us to consume. Why not just stop eating meat, because then we wouldn't have to worry about super bugs from eating beef?
[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;48530218]How about instead of "just cook your meat more" why dont we stop this at the source? Cow's stomachs arent designed to eat corn or any grains for that matter, so when they are forced to eat those types of foods in a factory farm setting their stomachs become a perfect breading ground for crazy pathogens. To combat these pathogens the cows are constantly pumped up with antibiotics, you know the same ones we use? And low and behold you have super bugs. To stop the super bugs is to stop the unsustainable factory farm practice.[/QUOTE] Or we could just cook our food properly and clean our kitchenware like a good chef should do.
This turned into a "How do you like your steak" thread rather quickly.
but what about totally-not-uncooked-blood juices
Beef patty I usually make sure the exterior is crispy and the interior juicy, but I never undercook them. Steak, I eat medium-well. A line of pink in the middle is my way to go. Blue and rare grosses me out. Then again, I nearly always buy Angus tripple A meat at the local butcher, so I am sure the quality is a bit, more than what you could buy at the grocery.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;48530310]Humans aren't designed to eat meat, eg look at our teeth structure[/QUOTE] Yeah, fangs are just a mutation.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;48530310]Playing devil's avocado here, but you're not looking at the real source. Humans aren't designed to eat meat, eg look at our teeth structure and why we have to cook meat so that it's safe for us to consume. Why not just stop eating meat, because then we wouldn't have to worry about super bugs from eating beef?[/QUOTE] First. We're not designed. Period. Second of all the reason we can't eat raw meat that much is because we've evolved while cooking food and put all the extra energy used for digesting things into growing a bigger brain. We can't digest things nearly as good as our ancestors used to I'm sure.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;48530310]Humans aren't designed to eat meat, eg look at our teeth structure and why we have to cook meat so that it's safe for us to consume. Why not just stop eating meat, because then we wouldn't have to worry about super bugs from eating beef?[/QUOTE] Humans are historically and currently omnivorous, you understand that right? People weren't "designed" either, we have retained our ability to eat both meat and other things, just look at the history of our ancestors and their meat eating ways, you think stone arrowheads, hammers, and axes were used to hunt plants?
If I remember correctly, most breakouts of bacterial gut infections, especially in the US, are from vegetables, not meat.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;48530310]Playing devil's avocado here, but you're not looking at the real source. Humans aren't designed to eat meat, eg look at our teeth structure and why we have to cook meat so that it's safe for us to consume. Why not just stop eating meat, because then we wouldn't have to worry about super bugs from eating beef?[/QUOTE] Uh no. If you look at our teeth structure you can easily fucking see we were meant to be omnivorous. Plus, I fucking love meat. I would rather have me and the rest of humanity go through the process of making it then have to deal with your vegetarian bullshit. I mean, you can't even really get all of your nutrients that you need from plants. Sure technically you can but those require a bit of exotic foods that if we were to all switch over to, it would completely wreck the environment of the places that grow those plants and probably still wouldn't even be enough to feed us all. It's just easier if we keep some sort of meat industry alive, and we fucking are.
we're omnivores, which means we get useful stuff from any consumable foods we eat sharp teeth for meat, flat teeth for veggies aka it's a matter of preference
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