UK: Social Mobility is declining, says Report - Polidicks

[IMG]http://i.huffpost.com/gen/4863248/images/n-SOCIAL-MOBILITY-628x314.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]The generation that grew up under Margaret Thatcher were the first to start with lower incomes than their parents and have endured an increasingly divided Britain, according to the government’s social mobility commission. Its annual “state of the nation” report published on Wednesday morning found that “Britain has a deep social mobility problem which is getting worse for an entire generation of young people”. Commission chairman Alan Milburn, a former Labour MP, said: "The rungs on the social-mobility ladder are growing further apart. It is becoming harder for this generation of struggling families to move up. "The social divisions we face impact many more people and places than the very poorest in society or the few thousand youngsters who miss out on a top university. Whole sections of society and whole tracts of Britain feel left behind.[/QUOTE] Sources: [URL="https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/state-of-the-nation-2016"]Gov.uk - The Report[/URL] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37999737"]BBC NEWS[/URL] [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/alan-milburn/social-mobility_b_13015198.html"]Huffington Post UK[/URL] [URL="https://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/nov/16/uks-social-mobility-problem-holding-back-thatcher-generation-says-report"]The Guardian[/URL] [URL="http://news.sky.com/story/britains-towns-and-cities-hollowed-out-by-social-divide-10659291"]Sky News[/URL]

And nothing will come of it.

Well let's fix it by introducing grammar schools and making the best universities more expensive.

No shit. Thanks, Tories! Hopefully we can vote the twats out next time because say what you will I'd take Corbyn's labour over the Conservatives any day of the week. Better yet maybe the Lib Dems will become respectable again given they, at least when they had an MP in my area, displayed more competence and interest in the needs of people than the other parties.

Working as intended, sadly.

[QUOTE=GordonZombie;51388363]No shit. Thanks, Tories! Hopefully we can vote the twats out next time because say what you will I'd take Corbyn's labour over the Conservatives any day of the week. Better yet maybe the Lib Dems will become respectable again given they,at least in my area, displayed more competent and interested in the needs of people than the other parties.[/QUOTE] But what about tuition fees? And how about those tuition fees, huh? Tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees Let's face it, the main reason the Lib Dems died was because the SNP came along and exploited nationalist sentiment in Scotland (the main source for LD MPs). England isn't going to get any less conservative any time soon, so at this point I'd rather that the left-wing parties just formed a coalition so they had some chance of getting anywhere once Scotland probably ends up leaving the Union and everything starts to entirely fucking fall apart because the Tories are now straight-up unopposed by a crumbling, cannibalising Opposition and a populist movement with a one-track mind.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;51389008]But what about tuition fees? And how about those tuition fees, huh? Tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees tuition fees Let's face it, the main reason the Lib Dems died was because the SNP came along and exploited nationalist sentiment in Scotland (the main source for LD MPs). England isn't going to get any less conservative any time soon, so at this point I'd rather that the left-wing parties just formed a coalition so they had some chance of getting anywhere once Scotland probably ends up leaving the Union and everything starts to entirely fucking fall apart because the Tories are now straight-up unopposed by a crumbling, cannibalising Opposition and a populist movement with a one-track mind.[/QUOTE] TBH I'd argue that UKIP is more a Tory puppet that doesn't know it more than anything. Aside from the SNP I know UKIP was used as a buffer to draw away Labour votes. You're probably right though about the necessity of a left-wing coalition. At this point the parties are falling into the hands of Despicable May and people are realising it, but nothing is being done about it.

How would coalitions work with FPTP exactly? I'm not really familiar with UK politics.

Awww gee fucking wonder why Its not like the Conservatives are opposed body and soul to the idea of social mobility

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;51390152]How would coalitions work with FPTP exactly? I'm not really familiar with UK politics.[/QUOTE] Well, it's FPTP in every constituency, so obviously it's possible to have more than two parties in parliament - even in the US they manage to elect an independent once in a while. In the UK they've somehow managed to keep more parties going - I can speculate as to the reasons why, but I don't really know - either way it still leads to huge gaps between the popular vote and the representation the parties receive. Or did I misunderstand your post?

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;51390152]How would coalitions work with FPTP exactly? I'm not really familiar with UK politics.[/QUOTE] Either a third party gets strong support I.e. lib Dems 2010 and no party has a majority and is forced to form a coalition, or sometimes in some countries (see Australia) you get a more organised coalition where they don't compete for each others seats.

[QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;51390514]Either a third party gets strong support I.e. lib Dems 2010 and no party has a majority and is forced to form a coalition, or sometimes in some countries (see Australia) you get a more organised coalition where they don't compete for each others seats.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=GoDong-DK;51390385]Well, it's FPTP in every constituency, so obviously it's possible to have more than two parties in parliament - even in the US they manage to elect an independent once in a while. In the UK they've somehow managed to keep more parties going - I can speculate as to the reasons why, but I don't really know - either way it still leads to huge gaps between the popular vote and the representation the parties receive. Or did I misunderstand your post?[/QUOTE] I see, I assumed that with FPTP the result would leave one party dominating parliament but I guess that isn't always the case. I was thinking of coalitions more in terms of parties being forced to work together as no one can get a clear majority by themselves (as happens here) and the rest forming a more or less united opposition

That's kind of what happens when you smash the middle class out of existence then let mass immigration drive everyone's rent up twofold It's also what happens when you make degrees almost worthless in the job market but simultaneously extremely expensive

[QUOTE=Fr3ddi3;51386133]And nothing will come of it.[/QUOTE] this is the thing i cannot understand about british politics. people like osbon basically outright killed people by thousands of cuts to everything and no metric showed that he was successful and yet people still keep letting them kill the social structure at least here in the US we try to keep the dream alive even when both sides disagree fiercely about how to do that