• China Defends Russia, Criticizes the West
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[QUOTE]After an initial degree of hesitancy, China’s state media has come out strongly in favor of Russia regarding the downing of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17. A number of editorials in Chinese state media in recent days have strongly condemned the Western response to the downing of MH17. The nationalistic Global Times, for instance, featured an editorial on Monday that ostensibly called for full disclosure from Russia, as well as an extensive and fair investigation led by either the United Nations or the International Civil Aviation Organization. Much of the editorial, however, was a scathing critique of Western efforts to implicate Russia in the attack. ”The West has fingered Russia as the main suspect in the tragedy. Under such circumstances, any hesitation on Russia’s part will provoke more blame from the West,” the Global Times editorial said. “If there is no result to the investigation, Russia will, by default, be named the perpetrator. Therefore, letting the facts of the case speak suits Russia’s interests.” The Global Times’ editors continued: “The Western rush to judge Russia is not based on evidence or logic. Russia had no motive to bring down MH17; doing so would only narrow its political and moral space to operate in the Ukrainian crisis. The tragedy has no political benefit for Ukrainian rebel forces, either. “Russia has been back-footed, forced into a passive stance by Western reaction. It is yet another example of the power of Western opinion as a political tool.” More generally, the GT editorial board opined: “The West has successfully put itself in a position to dictate ‘political correctness’ in international discourse. Those unwilling to work with Western interests will often find themselves in a tough position.” An earlier Global Times editorial, which was published on its English-language website on Saturday, offered a more subtle defense of Russia. Similar to the position taken by Russian President Vladimir Putin, the GT’s Saturday editorial said that the ongoing fighting in Ukraine had caused the attack, indirectly implicating the Ukrainian government. “The real culprit to blame, in fact, is the chaotic situation in Ukraine following the Crimea crisis. What Putin has said, that the tragedy would not have happened had there been peace in Ukraine, does make some sense,” the GT editorial stated.[/QUOTE] [url]http://thediplomat.com/2014/07/mh17-china-defends-russia-criticizes-the-west/[/url]
Sounds fair to me. I know Putin has a bad rap, but even he (ie His forces) would know better than to shoot down an International flight over contested territory... [b]Especially[/b] when considering the drama that unfolded when they first put troops on the border into Crimea/Ukraine. You'd have thought the US was calling in the end of days. Obama ate that shit up with a silver spoon. Quite frankly it's a lot of finger wagging and childish bullshit. Of course it was the Rebels. They're the only ones unorganized and stupid enough to fire at the first flying object they can point the missile at.
Well I don't think any Western leaders have actually blamed Russia. It seems like the consensus by both sids including some factions within the rebels is that the rebels accidently shot down the airliner. [QUOTE] "It is yet another example of the power of Western opinion as a political tool.”[/QUOTE] We should use this against China more. They get away with too much.
How can you even defend the shooting down of a civilian passenger plane? Even though I think Malaysian Airlines was retarded for flying over a war zone, Russia is still at fault for firing the missile. Even if it was the rebels or the Ukrainians who fired, it's still Russia's fault because they're the ones who provoked an invasion. Putin saying "had there been peace." You motherfucker, your army is invading another nation. No peace, duh. [QUOTE][B]The West has fingered Russia[/B] as the main suspect in the tragedy[/QUOTE] Hah hah! I'm so immature.
[QUOTE=cqbcat;45493443] Even though I think Malaysian Airlines was retarded for flying over a war zone, Russia is still at fault for firing the missile. Even if it was the rebels or the Ukrainians who fired, it's still Russia's fault because they're the ones who provoked an invasion. [/QUOTE] What invasion?
[QUOTE=gudman;45493454]What invasion?[/QUOTE] Crimea AKA "We don't know whose troops these belong to" "Okay yeah they are our troops"
[QUOTE=gudman;45493454]What invasion?[/QUOTE] I am guessing he is talking about Crimea.
[QUOTE=Thlis;45493460]Crimea AKA "We don't know whose troops these belong to" "Okay yeah they are our troops"[/QUOTE] Russia probably gave more shits than the Ukrainian army if they walked in unopposed.
[QUOTE=laserguided;45493470]Russia probably gave more shits than the Ukrainian army if they walked in unopposed.[/QUOTE] stop posting
[QUOTE=Thlis;45493460]Crimea AKA "We don't know whose troops these belong to" "Okay yeah they are our troops"[/QUOTE] How can Russia "provoke" Russian invasion? And what it has to do with airliner?
[QUOTE=gudman;45493516]How can Russia "provoke" Russian invasion? And what it has to do with airliner?[/QUOTE] Easily. Putin's strategy seems to be igniting nationalist fury and covert warfare.
[QUOTE=laserguided;45493545]Easily. Putin's strategy seems to be igniting nationalist fury and covert warfare.[/QUOTE] It is impossible in current Russia to have any kind of political initiative like that. Everything is either controlled directly from Kremlin, or is a crime. If anything, Kremlin would try and suppress this kind of activity, because people like that would be wild cards, impossible to predict accurately who are they going to turn on next. Especially considering how inconsistent Putin's policies are. Today it's "we should concentrate on our own development", tomorrow it's "we should confront the West on international arena". And again, doesn't have anything to do with Crimea - that was proper invasion, directed by political power.
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