• Brock Turner 2? No Prison For Colorado Rapist
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[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/austin-wilkerson-boulder-rape-prison_us_57abb86ce4b06e52746f3b22"]Main Source[/URL] [URL="http://www.denverpost.com/2016/08/11/austin-wilkerson-brock-turner-outrage-boulder-rape/"]Secondary Source[/URL] [URL="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/10/university-of-colorado-sexual-assault-austin-wilkerson"]Guardian Source [/URL] [QUOTE]The [URL="http://www.denverpost.com/2016/08/10/austin-wilkerson-cu-sex-assault/"]sentence for a former University of Colorado student[/URL] who avoided prison time after being convicted of raping a drunk woman in 2014 has drawn comparisons to the outrage sparked earlier this year when Brock Turner, a former Stanford University swimmer, was sentenced to six months in jail after being convicted of raping an unconscious woman.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Austin James Wilkerson, 22, was sentenced Wednesday by Boulder District Judge Patrick Butler to two years of work or school release and 20 years to life on probation at a hearing. Wilkerson was booked into the Boulder County Jail later that day, where he will spend his nights while he goes to school or works during the day.[/QUOTE] I'd read all the sources. This shit is off the walls unbelievable.
Pretty sure him still going to school is a Title IX violation.
[QUOTE=axelord157;50869671][URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/austin-wilkerson-boulder-rape-prison_us_57abb86ce4b06e52746f3b22"]Main Source[/URL] [URL="http://www.denverpost.com/2016/08/11/austin-wilkerson-brock-turner-outrage-boulder-rape/"]Secondary Source[/URL] [URL="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/10/university-of-colorado-sexual-assault-austin-wilkerson"]Guardian Source [/URL] I'd read all the sources. This shit is off the walls unbelievable.[/QUOTE] This is what the judge said: [quote]“I’ve struggled, to be quite frank, with the idea of, ‘Do I put him in prison?’” said Judge Patrick Butler, according to the Daily Camera newspaper. “I don’t know that there is any great result for anybody. Mr. Wilkerson deserves to be punished, but I think we all need to find out whether he truly can or cannot be rehabilitated.”[/quote] Rehabilitation? Isn't that what our prisons are purported to do? [quote]Following his conviction in May, probation officers recommended a sentence with no prison time, arguing Wilkerson was remorseful.[/quote] Wow, remorse can keep you out of jail? Based on the testimony he gave, it seems he's only remorseful about getting caught.
[QUOTE=PowerUp;50869860] Rehabilitation? Isn't that what our prisons are purported to do? [/QUOTE] The idea that American prisons do any meaningful rehabilitation at all are laughable. That doesn't mean this guy shouldnt go to prison, but our prisons certainly do not help rehabilitate people.
[QUOTE=PowerUp;50869860]This is what the judge said: Rehabilitation? Isn't that what our prisons are purported to do? Wow, remorse can keep you out of jail? Based on the testimony he gave, it seems he's only remorseful about getting caught.[/QUOTE] Our prison system is a fucking joke.
I'm generally an advocate for that lame non-vengeful rehabilitation stuff, but in this case, the punishment of being imprisoned itself will be the lesson. If it won't change his morals to not being a fucking rapist, at least he'll know there's consequences for it
[quote]Rehabilitation? Isn't that what our prisons are purported to do?[/quote] [QUOTE=EnlightenDead;50869929]The idea that American prisons do any meaningful rehabilitation at all are laughable. That doesn't mean this guy shouldnt go to prison, but our prisons certainly do not help rehabilitate people.[/QUOTE] Hence my use of the word "purported." Which means that a claim is likely to be false. Basically, I'm saying the prisons and this punishment are both a joke.
[QUOTE=PowerUp;50869958]Hence my use of the word "purported." Which means that a claim is likely to be false. Basically, I'm saying the prisons and this punishment are both a joke.[/QUOTE] As opposed to what then? He either goes to prison or does work/school release and is on probation for possibly the rest of his life. What would you suggest be done since neither of those options satisfy you?
[QUOTE=LSK;50870061]As opposed to what then? He either goes to prison or does work/school release and is on probation for possibly the rest of his life. What would you suggest be done if neither of those options satisfy you?[/QUOTE] So, the punishment he got was work/school release is a joke and he should just be in jail because that's the only system we have in place to put him. However, I don't think American prison systems are a place where people are rehabilitated and prepared to live better lives when they released into the public. Basically, I was just using a bit of satire / sarcasm to state our existing judicial system and this particular court decision don't serve the public well. There is chemical castration, which is used in some European countries, but I haven't read up much on that. [quote]United States In 1966, John Money became the first American to employ chemical castration by prescribing medroxyprogesterone acetate (MPA, the base ingredient now used in DMPA) as a treatment for a patient dealing with pedophilic urges. The drug has thereafter become a mainstay of chemical castration in America. Despite its long history and established use, the drug has never been approved by the FDA for use as a treatment for sexual offenders.[11] California was the first U.S. state to specify the use of chemical castration as a punishment for child molestation, following the passage of a modification to Section 645 of the California penal code in 1996.[38][39] This law stipulates that anyone convicted of child molestation with a minor under 13 years of age may be treated with DMPA if they are on parole after their second offense and that offenders may not reject the treatment.[38][39][40][41] The passage of this law led to similar laws in other states such as Florida's Statute Section 794.0235 which was passed into law in 1997.[42] As in California, treatment is mandatory after a second offense. At least seven other states, including Georgia, Iowa, Louisiana, Montana, Oregon, Texas and Wisconsin, have experimented with chemical castration.[11] In Iowa, as in California and Florida, offenders may be sentenced to chemical castration in all cases involving serious sex offenses. On June 25, 2008, following the Supreme Court ruling in Kennedy v. Louisiana that the execution of child rapists where the victim was not killed was ruled unconstitutional,[43] Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal signed Senate Bill 144, allowing Louisiana judges to sentence convicted rapists to chemical castration.[44][45][46][/quote] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration#United_States[/url]
[QUOTE=PowerUp;50870084]So, the punishment he got was work/school release is a joke and he should just be in jail because that's the only system we have in place to put him. However, I don't think American prison systems are a place where people are rehabilitated and prepared to live better lives when they released into the public. Basically, I was just using a bit of satire / sarcasm to state our existing judicial system and this particular court decision don't serve the public well. There is chemical castration, which is used in some European countries, but I haven't read up much on that. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration#United_States[/url][/QUOTE] No
[QUOTE=PowerUp;50870084]So, the punishment he got was work/school release is a joke and he should just be in jail because that's the only system we have in place to put him. However, I don't think American prison systems are a place where people are rehabilitated and prepared to live better lives when they released into the public. Basically, I was just using a bit of satire / sarcasm to state our existing judicial system and this particular court decision don't serve the public well. There is chemical castration, which is used in some European countries, but I haven't read up much on that. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration#United_States[/url][/QUOTE] I'd rather not have government sanctioned mutilation as a punishment for breaking the law.
[quote]“I don’t know that there is any great result for anybody. Mr. Wilkerson deserves to be punished, but I think we all need to find out whether he truly can or cannot be rehabilitated.”[/quote] People get punished far worse for far less, what a terrible judge.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;50870294]No[/QUOTE] Profound [editline]12th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Nautsabes;50870322]I'd rather not have government sanctioned mutilation as a punishment for breaking the law.[/QUOTE] It's hardly mutilation. It seems you take something and it suppresses libido until the treatment stops. If I were in this guys situation, but being sentenced to a longer jail term like the prosecutor's suggested six years, I might prefer the chemical treatment over the mental and physical mutilation that would occur with a lengthy prison stay. I'm not saying chemical castration is definitely the answer, but it's already on the table in the U.S. and other countries. Unless pedophiles are gonna be locked up for the rest of their lives, it seems it could be an appropriate solution for their case.
This is interesting. I'm on my way to move into CU right now. Never really heard many of these statistics, but honestly I'm not really surprised. With enough alcohol and sexually frustrated college kids, really bad things are bound to happen. I'm not defending this asshole at all, rapists are impathetic, angry, evil people. I hope this type of behavior isn't a recurring problem, I don't want rape to be the undertone of my first year here.
[quote]and 20 years to life on probation at a hearing[/quote] Fucking [B][I][U]WHAT[/U][/I][/B] Getting 20 to life should never, EVER be 'on probation'. Getting a punishment that severe should never fucking qualify for probation right away.
[QUOTE=PowerUp;50870696]Profound [editline]12th August 2016[/editline] It's hardly mutilation. It seems you take something and it suppresses libido until the treatment stops. If I were in this guys situation, but being sentenced to a longer jail term like the prosecutor's suggested six years, I might prefer the chemical treatment over the mental and physical mutilation that would occur with a lengthy prison stay. I'm not saying chemical castration is definitely the answer, but it's already on the table in the U.S. and other countries. Unless pedophiles are gonna be locked up for the rest of their lives, it seems it could be an appropriate solution for their case.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure this counts as "cruel and unusual" punishment.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50871256]Pretty sure this counts as "cruel and unusual" punishment.[/QUOTE] Well bring it up with your state legislator (note: this treatment is also used for cancer patients). Death penalty is pretty harsh as well.
[QUOTE=PowerUp;50870696]Profound [editline]12th August 2016[/editline] It's hardly mutilation. It seems you take something and it suppresses libido until the treatment stops. If I were in this guys situation, but being sentenced to a longer jail term like the prosecutor's suggested six years, I might prefer the chemical treatment over the mental and physical mutilation that would occur with a lengthy prison stay. I'm not saying chemical castration is definitely the answer, but it's already on the table in the U.S. and other countries. Unless pedophiles are gonna be locked up for the rest of their lives, it seems it could be an appropriate solution for their case.[/QUOTE] regardless of the method used to do it, its still mutilation
[QUOTE=Nautsabes;50871473]regardless of the method used to do it, its still mutilation[/QUOTE] Well I suppose it depends on your definition of mutilation. As far as the U.S. goes, taking a drug to control, remedy, or affect body chemistry is really common. Don't we take more prescription drugs than any other country in the world? People take contraceptive pills, anxiety meds, etc. and all these affect body chemistry. Anyways, I came across this AMA. [quote]I am a man who had myself chemically castrated for the sole purpose of ridding myself of sexual desires. AMA.[/quote] [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/casualiama/comments/1eqprc/i_am_a_man_who_had_myself_chemically_castrated/[/url]
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