• ISIS gives free bullets to foreign fighters who wants to leave.
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[quote=Financial Times]One hundred foreign fighters who joined the Islamic State group were killed for attempting to flee the extremist group’s headquarters in the Syrian city of Raqqa, the Financial Times reported Friday. Some jihadists who were drawn to Syria have now become disenchanted with the grueling fight, but the leaders of the militant group formerly known as either ISIS or ISIL won’t let them return home, Agence France-Presse reported. In October, 12 foreign fighters from various European countries wanted to return to their homes, but said they were being held prisoner by the Islamic State. The jihadists complained they were fighting against other rebel groups in Syria rather than against the regime of President Bashar Assad. A British foreign fighter contacted researchers at the International Center for the Study of Radicalization at King’s College London, saying between 30 and 50 British foreign fighters wished to return home, but feared they would face prosecution, according to AFP.[/quote] [url=http://www.ibtimes.com/isis-executes-100-foreign-fighters-trying-flee-syria-1764018]Article[/url] I honestly don't feel bad for those people who left their home countries to fight with ISIS.
Let's hope that the turmoil among their ranks increases the disorganisation and will lead to more people wanting to leave. Although this could backfire even more and weld together those who still remain.
[QUOTE=EskillV2;46762652]between 30 and 50 British foreign fighters wished to return home, but feared they would face prosecution, according to AFP.[/QUOTE] And so they damn well should. If I had my way. I'd say leave them over there. They made their choice.
[QUOTE=EskillV2;46762652]I honestly don't feel bad for those people who left their home countries to fight with ISIS.[/QUOTE] The idea of there being about 8 IS supports in Finland just feels fucking funny to me.
Everyone saying they deserve it and that we should leave them, don't you see how this would just serve to radicalize them. If you just leave them down there it might make them want to take revenge.
I honestly can't imagine what goes through the head of someone sitting at home in a nice first world country, reading headlines like "ISIS beheads several kids" and thinking "Yes, that sounds like fun. I want to participate in that". [editline]21st December 2014[/editline] I have absolutely no sympathy for them.
[QUOTE=Tinter;46762701]Everyone saying they deserve it and that we should leave them, don't you see how this would just serve to radicalize them. If you just leave them down there it might make them want to take revenge.[/QUOTE] They decided to leave and be party to the events in Syria/Iraq - their home countries owe them nothing. What would you suggest, allow them back into your neighbourhood?
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;46762688]And so they damn well should. If I had my way. I'd say leave them over there. They made their choice.[/QUOTE] people don't deserve to die because of blind ideals
Protip: Don't join islamic extremist terror organizations
[QUOTE=Kondor;46762715]people don't deserve to die because of blind ideals[/QUOTE] They're not children. They knew what they were doing.
[QUOTE=Tinter;46762701]Everyone saying they deserve it and that we should leave them, don't you see how this would just serve to radicalize them. If you just leave them down there it might make them want to take revenge.[/QUOTE] You're saying that the government they opposed should save them so they won't take revenge for not being saved? They sought out to join ISIS on their own accord, so they are just reaping what they sowed. I don't pity those idiots.
[QUOTE=PopLot;46762721]They're not children. They knew what they were doing.[/QUOTE] a lot of them thought they'd get a chance to fight against assad
[QUOTE=Tinter;46762701]Everyone saying they deserve it and that we should leave them, don't you see how this would just serve to radicalize them. If you just leave them down there it might make them want to take revenge.[/QUOTE] They were already radicalized when they walked out the door - brainwashing doesn't mean the person has to be intelligent enough to understand what they do, they just need to be gullible enough to believe that what they're being told is correct. I'd rather see them six feet under than watch them come back and wreak havoc in my country.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;46762730]They were already radicalized when they walked out the door - brainwashing doesn't mean the person has to be intelligent enough to understand what they do, they just need to be gullible enough to believe. I'd rather see them six feet under than watch them come back and wreak havoc in my country.[/QUOTE] you don't know any of the people that went to join isis, you have it in your head that they are some unintelligent jihadists that were bound to blow up or kill someone in their home town and luckily there's a situation in the middle east that they are self-shepherding themselves into, when in reality a lot of them are idealistic christians, jews or atheists who want to fight assad and who can blame them when he's been portrayed as satan incarnate for the entire century so far
[QUOTE=PopLot;46762714]They decided to leave and be party to the events in Syria/Iraq - their home countries owe them nothing. What would you suggest, allow them back into your neighbourhood?[/QUOTE] also, while most of the time when people refer to regular muslims as "sleeper islamic terrorists", they're just being islamophobic, is a bit more of a realistic theory if they're someone who actually joined a terror organization
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46762719]Protip: Don't join terror organizations[/QUOTE] fixed that for ya
[QUOTE=Kondor;46762715]people don't deserve to die because of blind ideals[/QUOTE] If you abandon a country to go and fight for some ass backwards barbaric idiots in a war that makes no logical sense, to commit atrocities to other human beings. I'd say fuck em. They gave up their human rights card. Leave them to rot. They made their choice. And why would you want to bring them back to your home country, to either take up prison space and cost taxpayers money for their own idiot ideals and motives. Or to somehow bypass that and roam your country streets posing a possible threat to innocent people?
If they want to go home, don't you think that there's a possibility that they're not looking to enforce sharia by beheadings?
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;46762836]If you abandon a country to go and fight for some ass backwards barbaric idiots in a war that makes no logical sense, to commit atrocities to other human beings. I'd say fuck em. They gave up their human rights card. Leave them to rot. They made their choice. And why would you want to bring them back to your home country, to either take up prison space and cost taxpayers money for their own idiot ideals and motives. Or to somehow bypass that and roam your country streets posing a possible threat to innocent people?[/QUOTE] i couldn't care less where they go you aren't betraying anyone by leaving where you came from to do anything you want, your country doesn't rely on you being there so i don't see why that would be abandonment, it's just pretty awful that almost everyone in this thread thinks they deserve to be killed by isis which makes me wonder who you guys are even against [editline]21st December 2014[/editline] i think it's a good thing that isis are destroying their public image and that is what should be celebrated but why would anyone applaud isis for the actual executions of their own members who don't want to be involved anymore
[QUOTE=Tinter;46762843]If they want to go home, don't you think that there's a possibility that they're not looking to enforce sharia by beheadings?[/QUOTE] To be honest. If a person is so fickle and demeanted to fall into the ideal that what ISIS are currently doing is right and justified and enticing. I hold ZERO faith in them coming home and reintergrating into society normally. They chose the country and side they wanted to fight for. It's done. Why should we bend over and metaphorically take it because they "Made a mistake". Don't enforce the local innocent population of a country be FORCED to support these people when they come home and get thrown into Jail. It isn't fair to those who are actually sane and composed mentally to truely see what is going on there. [editline]21st December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Kondor;46762852]i couldn't care less where they go you aren't betraying anyone by leaving where you came from to do anything you want, your country doesn't rely on you being there so i don't see why that would be abandonment, it's just pretty awful that almost everyone in this thread thinks they deserve to be killed by isis which makes me wonder who you guys are even against [editline]21st December 2014[/editline] i think it's a good thing that isis are destroying their public image and that is what should be celebrated but why would anyone applaud isis for the actual executions of their own members who don't want to be involved anymore[/QUOTE] If you are allowed into a country, that country helps support you in various ways. Allows you to be a part of their system, and society. For you to suddenly turn around and be like. "Fuck you I'm going to the middle east to help ISIS murder people for ABSOLUTELY no good reason." only to suddenly feel bad and expect a country to take you back cause you are an idiot who thought it was a good idea to partake and condone those actions. I'd say that's cause enough to justify leaving them there to rot. [editline]21st December 2014[/editline] Besides. We get enough bullshit relating to ISIS on our OWN country's soil. Why would I want to condone letting them back and risk raising that more than it currently is already.
some people move country and then move back should they also not be allowed back for biting the hand that fed them, oh also it isn't all generosity and good will that's what taxes pay for
[QUOTE=Kondor;46762868]some people move country and then move back should they also not be allowed back for biting the hand that fed them[/QUOTE] There is a PROFOUND difference between say. Moving from England to Canada. Cause you wanted to see if the job prospects were better, or for another career prospect that simply didn't work out so well. And moving to the middle east to murder, behead, rape and godknows what else. Small children, women and other men.
but that isn't why they're there and now they want to come back because they're not fighting assad
[QUOTE=Kondor;46762889]but that isn't why they're there and now they want to come back because they're not fighting assad[/QUOTE] But they are STILL in essence. Condoning the acts they commit and want to be a part of that. Fighting Assad. Or not. The acts are still one and the same. You are still commiting horrible acts to innocent people for someone elses perogative.
does being a christian put you on the same level as the minority of christians in africa who burn homosexuals alive?
[QUOTE=Kondor;46762901]does being a christian put you on the same level as the minority of christians in africa who burn homosexuals alive?[/QUOTE] Uhhh. Not once have I tarred ALL muslims by the same brush. My point was. To want to join ISIS. You must be aware of ISIS. To be aware of ISIS you KNOW of the acts they commit. It's impossible to NOT know the shit ISIS does. Cause it's plastered all over the goddamn media. My point is. If you suddenly think "I'm gonna go to the middle east and help ISIS in their fight against xxxxx" You know what they are fighting for. And the ways of which they are fighting for it. Thus. You condone those actions and believe they are justified and acceptable.
[QUOTE=Kondor;46762889]but that isn't why they're there and now they want to come back because they're not fighting assad[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter if they're not fighting hassad or want to come back They joined a terrorist group that is so extreme that the whole world is against them. So the chances of them getting back is extremely low. Stop being so naive, because those people are a lost cause.
[QUOTE=thejjokerr;46762932]There is no human rights card to give up, human rights apply to everyone no matter what they did. Saying they have no human rights makes you sound like the CIA. I'm not saying we should help them get back and I'm not saying we shouldn't prosecute them, but I'd just like to point out that human rights apply to every human being, no exceptions. I can see why you said it though, what's happening in that godforsaken part of the world is horrible.[/QUOTE] Agreed. It was more of a bad taste of wording on my behalf in that instance. It was just the only way I could think of to try and convey my thoughts on it.
imo ISIS are justified in what they do. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("trolling + PUI shitposts" - Orkel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;46763002]imo ISIS are justified in what they do.[/QUOTE] You are a terrible troll.
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