Indian Point nuclear plant leak causes radioactivity in groundwater
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[QUOTE=CNN](CNN)A leak at the Indian Point nuclear facility in New York has sent contaminant into the area groundwater, causing radioactivity levels 65,000% higher than normal, the Gov. Andrew Cuomo said on Saturday.
The groundwater beneath the nuclear plant, which does not contribute to drinking water, flows into the Hudson River at a point about 25 miles north of New York City.
Indian Point's parent company Entergy said elevated levels of tritium, a radioactive isotope of hydrogen, had been detected in the groundwater at the facility, but that "there is no health or safety consequence to the public."[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/06/us/nuclear-facility-ground-contamination-new-york/"]Delicious Sauce[/URL]
[quote]"there is no health or safety consequence to the public."[/quote]
PANIC, OH GOD THIS IS THE END
Well, better tritium than heavier metals. I mean, I'm partial to heavy metal, but when that metal is barium-141, you've got a problem.
Still, it sucks that people are probably gonna blow this outta proportion and rail against nuclear again. When in reality they should be yelling at the plant owners to fix their shit and upgrade to a safer model.
Brace for nationwide unreasonable panic and uninformed debate
Goddammit, wasn't Obama gearing up recently to push nuclear power development? I know I saw the thread here.
It's the Hudson River. I wouldn't recommend eating or drinking from it even if Indian Point didn't exist.
[QUOTE]causing radioactivity levels 65,000% higher than normal[/QUOTE]
So it's pretty much harmless. Cool.
[QUOTE=lonefirewarrior;49690275]It's the Hudson River. I wouldn't recommend eating or drinking from it even if Indian Point didn't exist.[/QUOTE]
Theres a lot of dumbasses who swim in the river and fish from it
[QUOTE=lonefirewarrior;49690275]It's the Hudson River. I wouldn't recommend eating or drinking from it even if Indian Point didn't exist.[/QUOTE]
New York resident here, I can confirm that the river is 95% blended shit. Also, the thing's full of fucking eels. I went fishing one time and caught nothing but goddamn eels. Not fun to take off a hook.
edit: That ninja above though. To my credit though no one I know of eats ANYTHING that comes out of that river. It's all catch and release for the sake of not dying of god knows what's in there.
65,000% looks scary, but radioactive materials are significantly weakened in a medium like water.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;49690346]65,000% looks scary, but radioactive materials are significantly weakened in a medium like water.[/QUOTE]
Also the normal ambient radiation levels of a nuclear power plant are lower than a coal power plant. 65,000% of nothing is still nothing.
[QUOTE=TheMrFailz;49690294]New York resident here, I can confirm that the river is 95% blended shit. Also, the thing's full of fucking eels. I went fishing one time and caught nothing but goddamn eels. Not fun to take off a hook.
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The question is, was your hovercraft full of them?
i'm pretty sure you can basically breathe tritium with no consequences
[QUOTE=woolio1;49690553]The question is, was your hovercraft full of them?[/QUOTE]
Oh, uh, matches! That's what you were after, right?
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;49690619]i'm pretty sure you can basically breathe tritium with no consequences[/QUOTE]
No that is completely wrong, tritium decays by beta emission which is slightly penetrating, skin will stop it but your lung tissue will not, in addition it can be absorbed by inhalation, through the skin or by drinking it, although in comparison to radon the health risk is minimal but not zero.
Still pretty weird that these things can happen to a nuclear power plant. You would think that these things can't happen in first world countries (not counting fukushima because that was a really unfortunate accident).
[QUOTE=thermobaric;49691899]Still pretty weird that these things can happen to a nuclear power plant. You would think that these things can't happen in first world countries (not counting fukushima because that was a really unfortunate accident).[/QUOTE]
Every nuclear plant is old. No one has kept up with reactor designs or safety because they stopped building them due to scare tactics by uninformed hippys
[QUOTE=thermobaric;49691899]Still pretty weird that these things can happen to a nuclear power plant. You would think that these things can't happen in first world countries (not counting fukushima because that was a really unfortunate accident).[/QUOTE]
Tritium leaks are very common since it's so hard to contain being able to pass though many materials as a gas and form tritiated water so all reactors tend to leak it, the actual amount leaked here is probably < 0.2g .
ban radiation?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49691946]Every [B]American[/B] nuclear plant is old. No one has kept up with reactor designs or safety because they stopped building them due to scare tactics by uninformed hippys[/QUOTE]
FTFY
There are a lot of old commercial nuclear power plants around the world, but America is really the only one that stopped building them in the 70's after TMI/Chernobyl.
The reactor designs face more economic/regulatory issues than technical issues I believe, since the old Gen II designs are familiar people know what to expect from them and can go regulate from there.
The Hudson River is so disgusting I can't imagine radiation making it much worse
Not as disgusting as Onondaga Lake though
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;49692278]FTFY
There are a lot of old commercial nuclear power plants around the world, but America is really the only one that stopped building them in the 70's after TMI/Chernobyl.
The reactor designs face more economic/regulatory issues than technical issues I believe, since the old Gen II designs are familiar people know what to expect from them and can go regulate from there.[/QUOTE]
Watts Bar 2 isn't! It's a modified 1988 Westinghouse pressurized water reactor unit, redesigned to bring the old hardware up to modern standards. It's one of the few Gen II+ reactors operating in the US right now. The hardware it's built on has never been used, though, so after a slight refurbishment over the past few years, it's basically sitting brand new.
There are far worse things in the Hudson River.
Would be some level of humor if the radiation actually sterilized some of the river. I wouldn't doubt a lot of nasty parasites and stuff must live in it.
[QUOTE=Chryseus;49691714]No that is completely wrong, tritium decays by beta emission which is slightly penetrating, skin will stop it but your lung tissue will not, in addition it can be absorbed by inhalation, through the skin or by drinking it, although in comparison to radon the health risk is minimal but not zero.[/QUOTE]
It can penetrate further but it's also a lot less ionising, so unless you breath in lots of it it shouldn't be much of an issue.
Given tritium is one of the rarest isotopes in nature 65000% is nothing.
[editline]8th February 2016[/editline]
Wow, that's unusual, the NRC is actually defending the plant against Cuomo.
So it'll help sterilize the Hudson?
Sounds good to me!
Radiation in water isn't a big deal. Even for things like Fukushima the biggest danger is in the sediment immediately off the coast.
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