• Comcast trialling 1000gb data cap up from 300gb in some areas
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[quote]Comcast is raising data caps to 1TB in all areas of the US that it's currently limiting internet usage. It's a huge increase, pushing the limit up from today's 300GB limit, which customers could reasonably meet by streaming a lot of Netflix. Comcast says that shouldn't be a problem with its new cap. "Today, more than 99 percent of our customers do not come close to using a terabyte," Comcast executive vice president Marcien Jenckes says. A typical customer, Jenckes writes, only uses "six percent" of a terabyte each month.[/quote] I'm extremely surprised that they're doing this especially since they sell cable as well. They're trying to win PR points and I think its working, apparently they offer unlimited data plans now as well. Source: [url]http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/27/11521566/comcast-data-cap-raised-1-tb-limit[/url]
well there being forced by the likes of google so there trying to save face,.
"Unlimited" sure, even if it's illegal to advertise as unlimited and not deliver, they'll still try to pull the shit
They never enforced the old cap anyway, at least in my area. I've never had to worry about it, and I've broken that cap numerous times (especially back when it was like 250GB).
how can you watch dreamwork's picture if you're on a service that can provide it via the internet?
[QUOTE=Shugo;50247025]They never enforced the old cap anyway, at least in my area. I've never had to worry about it, and I've broken that cap numerous times (especially back when it was like 250GB).[/QUOTE] They [I]absolutely[/I] did in my area (Atlanta), I regularly paid between $30 and $50 a month due to overage.
[QUOTE=Alrækinn;50246991]"Unlimited" sure, even if it's illegal to advertise as unlimited and not deliver, they'll still try to pull the shit[/QUOTE] Well, no, because it is actually unlimited unless you start using exorbitant amounts of data in a malicious fashion (botnet, etc)
[QUOTE=Map in a box;50247033]Well, no, because it is actually unlimited unless you start using exorbitant amounts of data in a malicious fashion (botnet, etc)[/QUOTE] that is not what botnet means unlimited data transfer does not mean unlimited bandwidth unlimited data means your advertised speed without arbitrary restrictions on how much data you consume at your advertised speed
[QUOTE=michaeldim;50247031]They [I]absolutely[/I] did in my area (Atlanta), I regularly paid between $30 and $50 a month due to overage.[/QUOTE] Probably based on how large and populated the area is, then. I live out in the quiet edges of Metro Detroit where they probably don't really care about it.
[QUOTE=bitches;50247037]that is not what botnet means unlimited data transfer does not mean unlimited bandwidth unlimited data means your advertised speed without arbitrary restrictions on how much data you consume at your advertised speed[/QUOTE] You don't need unlimited bandwidth to be a part of a botnet... Sustained peak output at a suspicious target is worthy of being shut down. AuPs exist.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;50247078]You don't need unlimited bandwidth to be a part of a botnet... Sustained peak output at a suspicious target is worthy of being shut down. AuPs exist.[/QUOTE] There's a strong difference between being maliciously attacking servers and using your advertised bandwidth. Being suspicious isn't a breach of service, only reason to call the customer and verify that there is a valid use.
[QUOTE=michaeldim;50247031]They [I]absolutely[/I] did in my area (Atlanta), I regularly paid between $30 and $50 a month due to overage.[/QUOTE] Same here, I live in Atlanta and they go after you if you go over the cap. Honestly, 1 TB as a "cap?" They might as well just uncap it at that rate, it'd win them extra brownie points.
[QUOTE=bitches;50247131]There's a strong difference between being maliciously attacking servers and using your advertised bandwidth. Being suspicious isn't a breach of service, only reason to call the customer and verify that there is a valid use.[/QUOTE] Well yes, hence the "suspicious target"
[QUOTE=The Calzone;50247134]Same here, I live in Atlanta and they go after you if you go over the cap. [B]Honestly, 1 TB as a "cap?" They might as well just uncap it at that rate, it'd win them extra brownie points.[/B][/QUOTE] 1TB is pretty small when you have multiple people streaming HD content plus people downloading games and who knows how many other chunky files, and God help you if you have some torrenters in the house.
[QUOTE=Shugo;50247025]They never enforced the old cap anyway, at least in my area. I've never had to worry about it, and I've broken that cap numerous times (especially back when it was like 250GB).[/QUOTE] In my area they actually enforced it and had a neighbor get their service disconnected. We also broke the cap lots of times and kept getting warnings so we just said fuck it and got their business class service instead. No caps and better speeds for only double the price! Honestly fuck Comcast, I hope only for the absolute worst to happen to that company. Please god let this horrible oligopoly end.
If I pay for unlimited I should be capable of maxxing out my bandwidth at all times and receiving 0 repercussions for it, in the form of overcharges or throttling. Data is incredibly cheap to transfer in this day and age and there's no excuse for lying to customers. If you can't/aren't willing to provide the service you're selling, then don't sell it.
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;50247305]1TB is pretty small when you have multiple people streaming HD content plus people downloading games and who knows how many other chunky files, and God help you if you have some torrenters in the house.[/QUOTE] This is why I'm glad they don't enforce the cap where I live. We have 3 desktops, 2 laptops, 2 next-gen consoles, along with multiple phones/tablets and handheld consoles. Everyone in the house watches a lot of youtube, twitch, or netflix and do a lot of gaming both on the PC's and on consoles. I don't think there was a single month that we [I]weren't[/I] above the 500GB unenforced "limit". Comcast is insane.
[QUOTE=phygon;50247352]If I pay for unlimited I should be capable of maxxing out my bandwidth at all times and receiving 0 repercussions for it, in the form of overcharges or throttling. Data is incredibly cheap to transfer in this day and age and there's no excuse for lying to customers. If you can't/aren't willing to provide the service you're selling, then don't sell it.[/QUOTE] Unlimited data doesn't give you the right to break an AUP They usually contain clauses that will terminate service if you actively abuse the it. Maxing out at all times isn't really an example of that but why the hell would you do that.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;50247469]Unlimited data doesn't give you the right to break an AUP They usually contain clauses that will terminate service if you actively abuse the it. Maxing out at all times isn't really an example of that but why the hell would you do that.[/QUOTE] way to completely miss the point, ignoring examples of how 1TB is pitiful for media-streaming families
[QUOTE=bitches;50247536]way to completely miss the point, ignoring examples of how 1TB is pitiful for media-streaming families[/QUOTE] Way to completely miss the point; no media streaming is going to peak 100mbps 24/7. And its much better than 300gb it was before.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;50247542]Way to completely miss the point; no media streaming is going to peak 100mbps 24/7. And its much better than 300gb it was before.[/QUOTE] so why are you starting an argument about maxxing data rates in a thread about an unreasonably arbitrary data cap that is demonstrably insufficient for many families?
[QUOTE=bitches;50247601]so why are you starting an argument about maxxing data rates in a thread about an unreasonably arbitrary data cap that is demonstrably insufficient for many families?[/QUOTE] You're the one that unreasonably started the argument, I was just bringing up the fact AUPs exist to phygon and that its unreasonable to believe that any company would allow unrestricted access to all the data. 1 terabyte is MUCH better than the 300gb. My friend hits 300gb quite often but I don't see him and his family reaching a TB nearly as often. For all ISPs that have a cap(most), the terabyte one is the most forgiving.
I'm completely inept with this sort of stuff, but is this whole debate about data caps an American thing? Because I've never had a capped plan in my entire life, and I don't know anyone else except for super old people to have a cap.
Here our comcast is still practically unlimited, all it says is the 250 cap has been suspended.
[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;50247689]I'm completely inept with this sort of stuff, but is this whole debate about data caps an American thing? Because I've never had a capped plan in my entire life, and I don't know anyone else except for super old people to have a cap.[/QUOTE] Yerp but they're being heavily pressured to stop. [QUOTE=Megadave;50247730]Here our comcast is still practically unlimited, all it says is the 250 cap has been suspended.[/QUOTE] Yeah they suspended the 250gb cap in some markets for future testing apparently.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;50247469]Unlimited data doesn't give you the right to break an AUP They usually contain clauses that will terminate service if you actively abuse the it. Maxing out at all times isn't really an example of that but why the hell would you do that.[/QUOTE] I don't even know what an AUP is but I feel like you missed the point of my post a bit, the point was that unlimited should = unlimited because the technology is definitely there (especially with the money that the government gave these companies for many cities for installing fiber which... didn't happen)
With 4 people in the house using steam and all 6 regularly using netflix and youtube, our family averages about 2-3TB a month. Once the cap is activated in our area we're fucked unless we get unlimited which is like $40 more a month now.
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;50246975]well there being forced by the likes of google so there trying to save face,.[/QUOTE] It's called market competition and it's a great thing. Let's open up the markets instead of bogging them down with red tape and over-restrictive regulations which create massive barriers to entry. (Looking at you FCC)
[QUOTE=matt_caster;50254145]It's called market competition and it's a great thing. Let's open up the markets instead of bogging them down with red tape and over-restrictive regulations which create massive barriers to entry. (Looking at you FCC)[/QUOTE] Regulations can also be used to open a market up. In Austria when Three bought Orange they were forced to sell access to their mobile network to 16 MVNO (virtual service providers using their network) to increase competition that was reduced by the merger. I'm currently paying <10€/month instead of the 30€ I'd be paying if there were only the 3 big providers instead of the 14 we have now. Sadly this wasn't done for wired internet connections and there are only 1-2 providers depending on where you live.
[QUOTE=matt_caster;50254145]It's called market competition and it's a great thing. Let's open up the markets instead of bogging them down with red tape and over-restrictive regulations which create massive barriers to entry. (Looking at you FCC)[/QUOTE] Yeah if anything the FCC is poised to help competition the most with last mile unbundling.
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