Germany sees 'overwhelming' sales of Hitler's Mein Kampf - Polidicks

[quote]The German publisher of a special annotated edition of Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf says sales have soared since its launch a year ago. About 85,000 German-language copies of the anti-Semitic Nazi manifesto have been sold. Publisher Andreas Wirsching said "the figures overwhelmed us". He is director of the Institute of Contemporary History (IfZ) in Munich. At the end of January the IfZ will launch a sixth print run. The book contains critical notes by scholars. Unlike the Nazi-era editions, the IfZ's Mein Kampf (My Struggle) has a plain white cover - without a picture of Hitler. The swastika and other Nazi symbols are banned in Germany. The IfZ edition of Mein Kampf includes copious notes by scholars providing context Mr Wirsching told the German news agency DPA that the IfZ was planning a shorter, French-language edition. "But two-thirds of our commentaries will be translated" for it, he said. The first print run in Germany in 2016 was 4,000 copies. The decision to republish the inflammatory book was criticised by Jewish groups. Mein Kampf was originally printed in 1925 - eight years before Hitler came to power. It sets out racist ideas that the Nazis put into practice later, including the denigration and oppression of Jews and Slavs. After Nazi Germany was defeated in 1945, the Allied forces handed the copyright to the state of Bavaria. Under German law copyright lasts for 70 years. While the Bavarian regional government held the copyright, reprinting of the book was banned. But the copyright expired a year ago.[/quote] [url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38495456[/url]

How extensive is Germanys ban on swastikas and other Nazi symbols, anyways? Are they allowed in museums? Is 卐 Unicode 卐 banned? :v:

[QUOTE=paul simon;51617616]How extensive is Germanys ban on swastikas and other Nazi symbols, anyways? Are they allowed in museums? Is Unicode banned? :v:[/QUOTE] Please delet those characters so German facepuncher's wont be arrested upon visiting the thread.

[QUOTE=paul simon;51617616]How extensive is Germanys ban on swastikas and other Nazi symbols, anyways? Are they allowed in museums? Is 卐 Unicode 卐 banned? :v:[/QUOTE]It's prohibited to display it in public except for scholarly reasons, which in practice is fairly broad iirc.

Surprise surprise... trying to erase something by law would make it more popular? Who knew...

[QUOTE=paul simon;51617616]How extensive is Germanys ban on swastikas and other Nazi symbols, anyways? Are they allowed in museums? Is 卐 Unicode 卐 banned? :v:[/QUOTE] As I recall, the swastika is permitted in either historical/educational or artistic pursuits, though not in just general amusement (e.g, video games aren't allowed to display them, but a documentary may show them, and I believe one can produce for example paintings on the subject, though that last one I am not sure about)

I would highly recommend reading it. Read it during modern history in year 12 almost 9 years ago, and twice since (own a hard copy). It gives you a unique insight into a man that captivated Germany and lead them into another war. I'd also recommend the "World at War" documentary series from the BBC in the 70's.

[quote]The decision to republish the inflammatory book was criticised by Jewish groups. [/quote] I've really gotta disagree with this. If you really want to avoid nazism in the future, you have to show people why their goals and inspirations are crocks of shit, or else you'll see those ideas come back but just with a coat of paint to get past the stigma. It's been a long time since I've looked through it but Mein Kampf was somewhat direct about a lot of how he thought and what inspired him. It's also not even a raw version of Mein Kampf they just sell to people and then tell them to have fun reading it, it's an annotated version. These surging sales are pretty likely to have a positive overall effect. [QUOTE=Sgt Doom;51617630]It's prohibited to display it in public except for scholarly reasons, which in practice is fairly broad iirc.[/QUOTE] Sometimes it gets quite strange to me though. Especially for video games, they don't get the "artistic" exemption movies get. Hearts of iron IV for example when bought in Germany upgrades Hitler to Dark Evil Shadow Hitler because of this. [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/JjKy2m3.jpg[/thumb]

[QUOTE=paul simon;51617616]How extensive is Germanys ban on swastikas and other Nazi symbols, anyways? Are they allowed in museums? Is 卐 Unicode 卐 banned? :v:[/QUOTE] God damn it. See ya in 2018 when I am out of prison.

Yeah, since it's an annotated version I wonder if a lot of the sales are people who are interested in nazism from a historical angle, and what enabled such a person to rise to power - possibly influenced by the US election?

[QUOTE=paul simon;51617616]How extensive is Germanys ban on swastikas and other Nazi symbols, anyways? Are they allowed in museums? Is 卐 Unicode 卐 banned? :v:[/QUOTE] there go all my savings

[QUOTE=Bradyns;51617648]I would highly recommend reading it. Read it during modern history in year 12 almost 9 years ago, and twice since (own a hard copy). It gives you a unique insight into a man that captivated Germany and lead them into another war. I'd also recommend the "World at War" documentary series from the BBC in the 70's.[/QUOTE] Piggy backing off this as a history student. Hitler's Table Talks written down by his secretary Martin Bormann is probably one of the most intriguing character study pieces you could ever read. You can pretty much find Hitler talk about several different topics like what he thought about Russian people (which changes overtime), law, the state of the war, and a huge range of other things. Mein Kampf in comparison is one gigantic rant. You can actually find a PDF here, ctrl+f friendly for key terms. [url]http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres10/HTableTalk.pdf[/url]

[QUOTE=Tudd;51617692]Piggy backing off this as a history student. Hitler's Table Talks written down by his secretary Martin Bormann is probably one of the most intriguing character study pieces you could ever read. You can pretty much find Hitler talk about several different topics like what he thought about Russian people (which changes overtime), law, the state of the war, and a huge range of other things. Mein Kampf in comparison is one gigantic rant. You can actually find a PDF here, ctrl+f friendly for key terms. [url]http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres10/HTableTalk.pdf[/url][/QUOTE] This is warez, you need to support the original authors!

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51617702]This is warez, you need to support the original authors![/QUOTE] Too bad Hitler didn't setup a patreon before he raged quit.

Do these 'Jewish groups' not see the irony in what they are suggesting? [sp]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authors_banned_in_Nazi_Germany[/sp]

[QUOTE=paul simon;51617616]How extensive is Germanys ban on swastikas and other Nazi symbols, anyways? Are they allowed in museums? Is 卐 Unicode 卐 banned? :v:[/QUOTE] Yes and what are those weird symbols you posted

[QUOTE=Tudd;51617713]Too bad Hitler didn't setup a patreon before he raged quit.[/QUOTE] hitler invented crappy kickstarters actually [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_Through_Joy#The_.22People.27s_Car.22[/url]

[QUOTE=Bradyns;51617648]I would highly recommend reading it. Read it during modern history in year 12 almost 9 years ago, and twice since (own a hard copy). It gives you a unique insight into a man that captivated Germany and lead them into another war. I'd also recommend the "World at War" documentary series from the BBC in the 70's.[/QUOTE] I would recommend reading it just for seeing how fucking retarded the whole thing is. Also if you are not a reader, listen to this: [url]https://play.spotify.com/album/2jLp9fvNCvRD1gveiVWTOY?play=true&utm_source=open.spotify.com&utm_medium=open[/url] Turkish guy who traveled Germany for 5 years to read Mein Kampf at schools.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51617713]Too bad Hitler didn't setup a patreon before he raged quit.[/QUOTE] I like to support him by buying art commissions off of his etsy page. He's a damn good yaoi artist I'll give him that. Also one dumb thing I always wondered is what if you were a jainist (indian religion, with the swastika as a main symbol) and you lived in Germany. The answer is probably pretty boring, which is that the law isn't that dumb, though some chucklefuck might attempt to arrest you or will tell you to stop.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51617654]I've really gotta disagree with this. If you really want to avoid nazism in the future, you have to show people why their goals and inspirations are crocks of shit, or else you'll see those ideas come back but just with a coat of paint to get past the stigma. It's been a long time since I've looked through it but Mein Kampf was somewhat direct about a lot of how he thought and what inspired him. It's also not even a raw version of Mein Kampf they just sell to people and then tell them to have fun reading it, it's an annotated version. These surging sales are pretty likely to have a positive overall effect. Sometimes it gets quite strange to me though. Especially for video games, they don't get the "artistic" exemption movies get. Hearts of iron IV for example when bought in Germany upgrades Hitler to Dark Evil Shadow Hitler because of this. [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/JjKy2m3.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE] Always bugged me what a fallacy this is especially when juxtaposed to stalin/communism/the uss/the hammer and sickle

[QUOTE=SirJon;51617759]Always bugged me what a fallacy this is especially when juxtaposed to stalin/communism/the uss/the hammer and sickle[/QUOTE] Well, Mussolini and Hirohito (somewhat on this one) were fascists too and this isn't applying to them either, and quite a lot of those men on there were pretty shitty such as Winston "I like gassing natives" Churchill. I'd venture to say that these laws weren't historically intended to ban all of the naughty ideas of society, just to rip nazism out of Germany after occupation during [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification"]this[/URL]. You can probably make a fair case on why it may have been justifiable at the time, but nowadays at the very least they should be repealed imo.

[QUOTE=Bradyns;51617648]I would highly recommend reading it. Read it during modern history in year 12 almost 9 years ago, and twice since (own a hard copy). It gives you a unique insight into a man that captivated Germany and lead them into another war.[/QUOTE] A word of warning, unless you're really interested in how Hitler's thought process worked Mein Kampf may very well put you to sleep.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51617654] Hearts of iron IV for example when bought in Germany upgrades Hitler to Dark Evil Shadow Hitler because of this. [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/JjKy2m3.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE] Which is weird, because unless I'm mistaken, he wasn't Censored in HOI3 or before. Though I think one game renamed him and other people. German HOI4 also censors some of Germany's military and political leaders as well. Uncensored Hitler and other portraits are actually free 'DLC' for non-German releases. [t]http://i.imgur.com/sJj9yeM.png[/t]

Always been tempted to try reading his book just to see what was being taught and told. Although I have heard its a pretty dry read and convoluted.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;51617839]Which is weird, because unless I'm mistaken, he wasn't Censored in HOI3 or before. Though I think one game renamed him and other people. German HOI4 also censors some of Germany's military and political leaders as well. Uncensored Hitler is actually free 'DLC' for non-German releases.[/QUOTE] Boxed copies of hoi3 were IIRC. But most people bought it digitally so of course they didn't see the censors, however according to paradox the laws caught up so they had to do it. edit: [url]https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/german-version-faq.934568/[/url]

[QUOTE=dunkace;51617846]Always been tempted to try reading his book just to see what was being taught and told. Although I have heard its a pretty dry read and convoluted.[/QUOTE] It's absolute trash [editline]3rd January 2017[/editline] Seriously listen to this [QUOTE=Overhauser;51617743]I would recommend reading it just for seeing how fucking retarded the whole thing is. Also if you are not a reader, listen to this: [url]https://play.spotify.com/album/2jLp9fvNCvRD1gveiVWTOY?play=true&utm_source=open.spotify.com&utm_medium=open[/url] Turkish guy who traveled Germany for 5 years to read Mein Kampf at schools.[/QUOTE]

Jewish influence in government policy has been increasingly spotlighted in recent years and along with the turmoil in Europe these sales don't surprise me

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;51617917][B]Jewish influence in government policy has been increasingly spotlighted in recent years[/B] and along with the turmoil in Europe these sales don't surprise me[/QUOTE] What the fuck

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;51617917]Jewish influence in government policy has been increasingly spotlighted in recent years and along with the turmoil in Europe these sales don't surprise me[/QUOTE] :conspiratard: But they dont have as much influence as they think you do? It's not some omnipresent cabal pulling the strings of the media.

Reading Mein Kampf isn't meant to be entertaining, but merely an insight into the momoirs (and morso the mind) of an historically important figure.