Native Italians to live homeless next to refugeeshelter filled with brandnew furniture. - Polidicks

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkTiWCeL8CM[/media] [quote]One of the leading reasons that many citizens in Europe are unsupportive of taking in refugees is because they are being treated so unequally well by our extremely-wannabe-progressive governments. The video shows just one of the many examples. In Italy, as shown in the video, a group of native Italians is refused shelter since they are full. However, the government has leased private property and filled it with brand-new furniture for refugees to be housed in. Have a look yourself.[/quote]

I remember when people were saying that this won't happen, that the refugees will not be treated any better then the actual citizens of any given country. What a wonderful world we live in! What's even better is most of the refugees keep protesting and demanding "better" conditions. So not only are politicians letting the actual homeless people of their countries suffer, but they dangle the fact that something could be actually done about their problems, but instead of helping your fellow countrymen and countrywomen, we'd rather help someone who comes from a foreign land and is generally ungrateful and disrespectful. Hopefully the politicians responsible for this are tried for treasonous actions against their fellow countrymen and countrywomen and are either exiled, put in a cell, or put to a fucking wall.

And I just ignored the beggar sitting in front of the supermarket where I went for groceries an hour ago.

Waiting for the "got sources on that?" people to come in...

I love how they broke into it. Top journalism. [editline]10th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;49288125]I remember when people were saying that this won't happen, that the refugees will not be treated any better then the actual citizens of any given country. What a wonderful world we live in! What's even better is most of the refugees keep protesting and demanding "better" conditions. So not only are politicians letting the actual homeless people of their countries suffer, but they dangle the fact that something could be actually done about their problems, but instead of helping your fellow countrymen and countrywomen, we'd rather help someone who comes from a foreign land and is generally ungrateful and disrespectful. Hopefully the politicians responsible for this are tried for treasonous actions against their fellow countrymen and countrywomen and are either exiled, put in a cell, or put to a fucking wall.[/QUOTE] Except it's private charity providing the housing. [editline]10th December 2015[/editline] Also look at that channel, really nice. Top notch source of information.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;49288125]I remember when people were saying that this won't happen, that the refugees will not be treated any better then the actual citizens of any given country. What a wonderful world we live in! What's even better is most of the refugees keep protesting and demanding "better" conditions. So not only are politicians letting the actual homeless people of their countries suffer, but they dangle the fact that something could be actually done about their problems, but instead of helping your fellow countrymen and countrywomen, we'd rather help someone who comes from a foreign land and is generally ungrateful and disrespectful. Hopefully the politicians responsible for this are tried for treasonous actions against their fellow countrymen and countrywomen and are either exiled, put in a cell, or put to a fucking wall.[/QUOTE] where were you for the homeless and the needy before the refugee crisis? did you ever entertain the thought of petitioning your government for a better treatment of the poor? I mean, you sure do love to use them to justify your agenda though

Most governments treat refugees better than their own population.

[QUOTE=Mechanical43;49288212]where were you for the homeless and the needy before the refugee crisis? did you ever entertain the thought of petitioning your government for a better treatment of the poor? I mean, you sure do love to use them to justify your agenda though[/QUOTE] fucking thank you

[QUOTE=kweh;49288135]Waiting for the "got sources on that?" people to come in...[/QUOTE] Yea, fuck those guys. Who needs truth or discussion when my narrative needs justifying?

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;49288125]I remember when people were saying that this won't happen, that the refugees will not be treated any better then the actual citizens of any given country. What a wonderful world we live in! What's even better is most of the refugees keep protesting and demanding "better" conditions. So not only are politicians letting the actual homeless people of their countries suffer, but they dangle the fact that something could be actually done about their problems, but instead of helping your fellow countrymen and countrywomen, we'd rather help someone who comes from a foreign land and is generally ungrateful and disrespectful. Hopefully the politicians responsible for this are tried for treasonous actions against their fellow countrymen and countrywomen and are either exiled, put in a cell, or put to a fucking wall.[/QUOTE] I admitted this happened to me some what when I lived near the mexican border. It made me upset. I got over it. Many people in the same situation, however didn't. Doing this will only make people racists.

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;49288227]Most governments treat refugees better than their own population.[/QUOTE] Good thing the stuff in the OP is not under administration of any Government agency then, huh?

[QUOTE=Killuah;49288283]Good thing the stuff in the OP is not under administration of any Government agency then, huh?[/QUOTE] Neither governments nor private institutions care about citizens. That's even more wonderful.

As I have told my friends and people I talk to on a regular basis, these arguments about how we house these refugees before we do our own homeless vets or homeless in general... The government could have done something about that a long time ago but they [b]chose[/b] not to, it's as simple as that. Don't get all miffed because we as the richest countries on the planet have to shelter the refugees of disasters, wars, and the desolate masses of the not so well off countries. It should be seen as a positive, these people want to make our countries their home and we should do everything we can to integrate them in to our society if they want to be. There will always be the vocal minority though among them who are ignorant, backwards, and harmful to that process. But that's the reality of the world as a whole.

Are we posting manipulative videos setting extremes against each other in a ridiculous fashion with no journalistic integrity now? [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvHJxokMRdw[/media]

[QUOTE=MattSif;49288341]As I have told my friends and people I talk to on a regular basis, these arguments about how we house these refugees before we do our own homeless vets or homeless in general... The government could have done something about that a long time ago but they [b]chose[/b] not to, it's as simple as that. Don't get all miffed because we as the richest countries on the planet have to shelter the refugees of disasters, wars, and the desolate masses of the not so well off countries. It should be seen as a positive, these people want to make our countries their home and we should do everything we can to integrate them in to our society if they want to be. There will always be the vocal minority though among them who are ignorant, backwards, and harmful to that process. But that's the reality of the world as a whole.[/QUOTE] We should be grateful they come here, expecting to live like kings and then demanding that? While at the same time we leave our own in the dirt? Sod off man. That's the sort of thinking that gets you on the streets in the first place.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49288366]We should be grateful they come here, expecting to live like kings and then demanding that? While at the same time we leave our own in the dirt? Sod off man. That's the sort of thinking that gets you on the streets in the first place.[/QUOTE] What the fuck is this. "expecting to live like kings"

[QUOTE=Killuah;49288383]What the fuck is this. "expecting to live like kings"[/QUOTE] Wish I could eat for 50 euros a day.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49288366]We should be grateful they come here, expecting to live like kings and then demanding that? While at the same time we leave our own in the dirt? Sod off man. That's the sort of thinking that gets you on the streets in the first place.[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about living like kings, that's an exaggeration perpetuated by people like yourself who seem to think that sheltering people in half decent housing is somehow living like a king. Is your moral compass so darkened by the cynicism that's blasted all over the news that you can't realize these are your fellow human beings?

[QUOTE=MattSif;49288394]I'm not talking about living like kings, that's an exaggeration perpetuated by people like yourself who seem to think that sheltering people in half decent housing is somehow living like a king. Is your moral compass so darkened by the cynicism that's blasted all over the news that you can't realize these are your fellow human beings?[/QUOTE] When my fellow citizens are treated worse than my fellow immigrants, yes.

I think countries should focus on the people who aren't apart of a group that is very different and sometimes hostile to our ideals like our vets or homeless

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49288441]When my fellow citizens are treated worse than my fellow immigrants, yes.[/QUOTE] how much money or time have you given to the homeless. how much do you plan to?

[QUOTE=God of Ashes;49288450]how much money or time have you given to the homeless. how much do you plan to?[/QUOTE] Time? Plenty. Money? Not much, or I might become one of them. Why is that even a question? Seems fairly irrelevant.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49288460]Time? Plenty. Money? Not much, or I might become one of them. Why is that even a question? Seems fairly irrelevant.[/QUOTE] it's pretty relevant because people are now bringing up homeless people and poverty, as though it has only sprung into being when the refugees arrived essentially it's a distraction tactic, because the only thing that people don't like more than homeless people that they never batted an eye at in the first place, is the idea of those dirty muslims fleeing to escape war or persecution, living like human beings

[QUOTE=Mechanical43;49288212]where were you for the homeless and the needy before the refugee crisis? did you ever entertain the thought of petitioning your government for a better treatment of the poor? I mean, you sure do love to use them to justify your agenda though[/QUOTE] Your counter-argument trying to make it out to be an agenda doesn't really works here, because before, you could see it as a "oh the country can't work something out to help everyone because it doesn't has the funds" so you'd go "ok then..", but suddenly, it can get the means to help refugees coming in bigger numbers? Like, its the reason why so many people are mad about it. Because there wasn't help for the natives in need, but SUDDENLY, there is for the refugees. And don't act like HE'S not helping out the poor when he does or does not remember them. You defending refugees or pro-refugee ideas on a gaming forum isn't helping either lol.

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;49288483]it's pretty relevant because people are now bringing up homeless people and poverty, as though it has only sprung into being when the refugees arrived essentially it's a distraction tactic, because the only thing that people don't like more than homeless people that they never batted an eye at in the first place, is the idea of those dirty muslims fleeing to escape war or persecution, living like human beings[/QUOTE] That's true, I can agree fully. It does suck that people only now notice homeless people now that immigrants are here. But maybe some good can come of it and more people will actually do something to support local homeless people.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49288460]Time? Plenty. Money? Not much, or I might become one of them. Why is that even a question? Seems fairly irrelevant.[/QUOTE] because you're trying to leverage the misery of one group of people against the misery of another group of people in order dodge the unpleasant essential truth that you and i and everyone are morally responsible for each other

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;49288261]Yea, fuck those guys. Who needs truth or discussion when my narrative needs justifying?[/QUOTE] More like someone bakes a half-assed good story of some group of people who are generaly seen as criminals and everyone believes it and praises it and says its true despite addressing a few people from a large group on camera, but when everyone says bad things about said group of people then suddenly everyone asks for sources and deems everything bullshit Example: Kony 2012. Everyone ate that shit up and didn't give a single fuck about all of it being an outdated lie because "for good justice!!!1!" and pointed fingers at anyone who said it was bullshit.

[QUOTE=Kommodore;49288525]you and i and everyone are morally responsible for each other[/QUOTE] What?

Lmao everry thread its just "wowe ur using the homeless as an agenda" Not everybody can fix everything or even do anything, and the govwrment of these countries can atleast try to unfuck this situation but hey let's spend all that money on refugees rite?

[QUOTE=kweh;49288495]You defending refugees or pro-refugee ideas on a gaming forum isn't helping either lol.[/QUOTE] I suppose you believe in the suff you post so let me ask you why you made this post?