[quote] Far-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos has insisted he does not support paedophilia after footage surfaced that shows him apparently advocating the possibility of sexual relationships between 13-year-olds and adults.
Videos showing Mr Yiannopoulos making the claims have been shared on social media after he was confirmed as a keynote speaker at this year’s CPAC conference for the American Conservative Union (ACU). His recent appearance at UC Berkeley was cancelled after violent protests erupted on campus.
In the excerpt from the podcast being circulated, the Breitbart senior editor says he defines paedophiles as people who are sexually attracted to children who have not reached puberty. He adds that he believes some teenagers under the age of 16 are able to consent to sexual activity. [/quote]
[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/milo-yiannopoulos-latest-news-paedophilia-breitbart-video-child-abuse-right-wing-sexual-relationship-a7589656.html] Source [/url]
he's just been reading plenty of plato
Correct me if I'm wrong but Paedophilia refers to children who haven't reached any sort of puberty at all, and ~13 onwards is something called "ephebophilia which refers to a sexual attraction to teenagers.
Not that it justifies anything, 13 is way too young to be doing anything with adults. Other teens of the same age group (13-14) is more acceptable I'd say.
I'm surprised this is news now, it's been known for quite a long time.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZUNrh81EyA[/media]
These news articles about Milo are hit pieces. They take out of context something he said during an interview on the Drunken Peasants a few years ago.
Milo's response to these hit pieces.
[url]https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/posts/851072498363980[/url]
[url]https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/posts/851263248344905[/url]
tl;dr: He does not defend pedophilia. Quite the opposite. But of course facts don't matter because people don't like things he says. So they're trying to find any dirt or invent dirt on him to shame him out of the public discourse.
Milo is a broken man who was raped as a child and is trying to find comfort through exploiting controversy and being a pretty face for a political fringe to adore. I would feel sorry for him if he wasn't an asshole.
[QUOTE=Bertie;51849886]Correct me if I'm wrong but Paedophilia refers to children who haven't reached any sort of puberty at all, and ~13 onwards is something called "ephebophilia which refers to a sexual attraction to teenagers.
Not that it justifies anything, 13 is way too young to be doing anything with adults. Other teens of the same age group (13-14) is more acceptable I'd say.[/QUOTE]
You're not wrong technically but when people say pedophilia they usually mean anyone underage.
[QUOTE=Bertie;51849886]Correct me if I'm wrong but Paedophilia refers to children who haven't reached any sort of puberty at all, and ~13 onwards is something called "ephebophilia which refers to a sexual attraction to teenagers.
Not that it justifies anything, 13 is way too young to be doing anything with adults. Other teens of the same age group (13-14) is more acceptable I'd say.[/QUOTE]
Ephebophiles are just pedophiles with a dictionary tbh
[QUOTE=Kigen;51849895]
These news articles about Milo are hit pieces. They take out of context something he said during an interview on the Drunken Peasants a few years ago.
Milo's response to these hit pieces.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/posts/851072498363980[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/posts/851263248344905[/URL]
tl;dr: He does not defend pedophilia. Quite the opposite. But of course facts don't matter because people don't like things he says. So they're trying to find any dirt or invent dirt on him to shame him out of the public discourse.[/QUOTE]
lets just watch the uncut video then
[media]https://twitter.com/reaganbattalion/status/833485040944156673[/media]
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[QUOTE=Kigen;51849895]tl;dr: He does not defend pedophilia. Quite the opposite. But of course facts don't matter because people don't like things he says. So they're trying to find any dirt or invent dirt on him to shame him out of the public discourse.[/QUOTE]
there's a video of him literally saying that consent is arbitrary and oppressive
put 2 and 2 together
[QUOTE=Crumpet;51849924]lets just watch the uncut video then
oh[/QUOTE]
If I'm hearing him right (he's a little all over the place) he's saying that there are some cases, however rare they may be, where people under the age of consent could give informed consent. He never says anything about lowering the age of consent, he said he agrees that it's correct. Not sure what he's on about with the "arbitrary and oppressive" comment tho.
[QUOTE=Kigen;51849895]These news articles about Milo are hit pieces. They take out of context something he said during an interview on the Drunken Peasants a few years ago.
tl;dr: He does not defend pedophilia. Quite the opposite. But of course facts don't matter because people don't like things he says. So they're trying to find any dirt or invent dirt on him to shame him out of the public discourse.[/QUOTE]
You realize the "it's being taken out of context" defence only actually works when things are actually being taken out of context right? You can't just post "it's a hit piece" with no reasoning when literally everyone would come to the exact same conclusion listening to what he said with no jump cuts or edits. I followed through to the links but it was a combination of rambling incoherent nonsense telling people "fuck you" like a child and then trying to say "no but the left is doing what they claim I'm doing" like that's some kind of a defence for the shit he said
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;51849950]there's a video of him literally saying that consent is arbitrary and oppressive
put 2 and 2 together[/QUOTE]
I think what Milo means that it's 'best' that child entering puberty should be "helped" to understand their sexuality be experiencing it with experienced adults.
Which is bullshit. You can learn through normal sex education and trying it with others in your age group.
"Disgusting men say they are transgender and are forcing their way into the women's bathroom where the little girls are"
Doesn't quite fit with "and this is completely ok because y'know, you gotta teach them kids how to love" lol.
What a broken moral compass.
Jesus christ what a completely insane individual
Yeah I don't see how he's advocating for pedophilia. He himself was a victim of sexual molestation and he chooses to make edgy jokes like "it taught me to give better head" as a coping mechanism, so what. He's always saying stupid shit to be edgy, and it never fails to trigger, and that's exactly why he is so popular and successful.
[QUOTE=01271;51850044]"Disgusting men say they are transgender and are forcing their way into the women's bathroom where the little girls are"
Doesn't quite fit with "and this is completely ok because y'know, you gotta teach them kids how to love" lol.
What a broken moral compass.[/QUOTE]
If it outrages, if it gets him attention, then Milo is for that shit. We should stop paying attention to this narcissistic parasite unless he becomes an actual threat.
I've been posting about this in the other thread but his defense is bunk
Its uncut footage and he specifically names the age of 13. He's not ambiguous when he says "boys"
Total creep
[editline]20th February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=meek;51850061]Yeah I don't see how he's advocating for pedophilia. He himself was a victim of sexual molestation and he chooses to make edgy jokes like "it taught me to give better head" as a coping mechanism, so what. He's always saying stupid shit to be edgy, and it never fails to trigger, and that's exactly why he is so popular and successful.[/QUOTE]
Watch the full video
he simply courts controversy to make money.
hey, child abuse can't be that bad, I was raped as a child and I turned out great!
*is milo yiannopoulous*
[QUOTE=KillRay;51850078]I've been posting about this in the other thread but his defense is bunk
Its uncut footage and he specifically names the age of 13. He's not ambiguous when he says "boys"
Total creep
[editline]20th February 2017[/editline]
Watch the full video[/QUOTE]
I did. You are misinterpreting what he says in a mix of bad wording and willingness to believe he is some kind of monster. Some helpful context most people happily skip to favour their pre determined conclusions about Milo:
[QUOTE]6. I did say that there are relationships between younger men and older men that can help a young gay man escape from a lack of support or understanding at home. That's perfectly true and every gay man knows it. But I was not talking about anything illegal and I was not referring to pre-pubescent boys.
7. I said in the same "Drunken Peasants" podcast from which the footage is taken that I agree with the current age of consent.
8. I shouldn't have used the word "boy" when I talked about those relationships between older men and younger gay men. (I was talking about my own relationship when I was 17 with a man who was 29. The age of consent in the UK is 16.) That was a mistake. Gay men often use the word "boy" when they refer to consenting adults. I understand that heterosexual people might not know that, so it was a sloppy choice of words that I regret[/QUOTE]
You can find more here [url]https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/posts/851263248344905[/url]
Meek, why are you defending a bag of shit?
Bags of shot don't need defending, they can do it on their own.
[QUOTE=meek;51850135]I did. You are misinterpreting what he says in a mix of bad wording and willingness to believe he is some kind of monster. Some helpful context most people happily skip to favour their pre determined conclusions about Milo:
You can find more here [url]https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/posts/851263248344905[/url][/QUOTE]
[Media]https://twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/833534818822537221[/media]
He's a liar. It's cut and dry. He specified ages. He didn't just say boy
[QUOTE]8. I shouldn't have used the word "boy" when I talked about those relationships between older men and younger gay men. (I was talking about my own relationship when I was 17 with a man who was 29. The age of consent in the UK is 16.) That was a mistake. Gay men often use the word "boy" when they refer to consenting adults. I understand that heterosexual people might not know that, so it was a sloppy choice of words that I regret[/QUOTE]
If this is true then why did he refer to the older one as a man and not also a boy?
I mean this isn't actually that big a deal considering heterosexual men refer to 20-something women as "girls" all the time and heterosexual women call 20-something men "boys" all the time, I just thought it was a weird attempt at a defense.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;51849950]there's a video of him literally saying that consent is arbitrary and oppressive
put 2 and 2 together[/QUOTE]
Tbf though consent is arbitrary and oppressive, at least in the US. If you have two 17 year olds dating, and one is one day older than the other, the one day that the older one is 18 and the younger one is 17 is a day where it's illegal for the older one to commit any sexual act because they're an adult and the other is a minor.
The age of consent is 16, but only if they're no more than one year older than you. If they are, like when I was dating a 19 year old while I was 17, then unless you get lucky and happen to be in a state with a Romeo and Juliet law, that older person is committing statutory rape despite the younger person both being the age of consent and giving consent.
Of course, I'm sure he means it in a different way.
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I mean he's not wrong that a 13 year old can be sexually mature, because sexual maturity [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_maturity]does not encompass your judgement or rationality, only your ability to reproduce[/url].
He was dumb to say 13 years old though, because that's on the far fringe of how young someone can achieve sexual maturity. I feel like if he had said 16 or 17 at first instead of waiting for a facebook post to specify that was when he basically got in that situation his whole point would have felt less like manufactured controversy.
he is a cunt but he isn't defending paedophilia.
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51850220]he is a cunt but he isn't defending paedophilia.[/QUOTE]
Do tell us more how he isn't defending pedophilia by defending relationships between 13 year old boys and older men.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51850213]I mean he's not wrong that a 13 year old can be sexually mature, because sexual maturity [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_maturity]does not encompass your judgement or rationality, only your ability to reproduce[/url].
He was dumb to say 13 years old though, because that's on the far fringe of how young someone can achieve sexual maturity. I feel like if he had said 16 or 17 at first instead of waiting for a facebook post to specify that was when he basically got in that situation his whole point would have felt less like manufactured controversy.[/QUOTE]
The reason he "waited on a facebook post to specify" is because it's clear he's trying to cover it up. You can't say something so specific and then try and backpedal it as being vague
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