• I'm facing a legal / emotional dilemma, need some perspective
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My brother has always had a negative impact on my life. From the day I was born, he was either at home fucking up my life, arrested, in juvenile detention centers, etc. He even tried to murder me once when I was seven (I'm being serious, he really tried to smother/strangle me as a little boy). I didn't see him much when I was a child because of the things he did and the situations he put himself into, so forgive me if I'm a little cold toward him. Anyway, now he wants my help. A few days ago, I came home from a friend's house to find my brother and his son are going to be temporarily staying at my home with my father and I. The reason being that he was running/hiding from the police and couldn't go anywhere else. If it were my house and my decision, he would have been turned in to the police or at least turned away and told to stay somewhere else, rather than legally endangering my family and I. However, that is not the case, it was my dad's decision to make, and he allowed him to stay. A couple of days ago, I received a letter from my local department of motor vehicles informing me that my license, which I have never had in my entire life, has been revoked/suspended indefinitely due to a failure to appear for a court date that I was never aware of, concerning a charge I've never received. My brother had informed me a while back that he had used my identity at least once when being arrested, so instantly, I knew what was up. I knew he was at fault. Rather than just making groundless accusations, I decided to be the better person and confront him about it. Of course, he denies all involvement in the situation. Being the nice person that I am, I give him the benefit of the doubt and consider the remote possibility that maybe he really wasn't involved. I called the DMV and the local police station and explained the situation, and received a description of the assailant, the car he was driving, and the address he used. The description matches my brother exactly, the car was one I am quite sure he used to own, and the address is one at which I know for a fact he's lived. Big surprise, huh? Sometime yesterday morning, he disappears. The entire time I'm unaware of his current whereabouts, I'm hoping and wishing that maybe he was arrested and put back in prison where he belongs. Later that evening, he contacts my dad, reveals his location, and makes my dad waste valuable gas that we don't have taking to him his things, which he left at our house. Upon arrival, I confronted him again, knowing full well the facts of the situation, allowing him a chance at redemption. Again, he denies all involvement. This morning, I am awoken by a phone call from my brother pleading for me to not reveal his identity to the police when I meet with the arresting officer so that I can clear my name (something I'm hoping to do today, if at all possible). Not only is he directly admitting involvement, he also is asking me to lie to the police, and telling me that he did everything he had done with all the good intentions in the world. Whatever, I really don't want to deal with this kind of shit this early in the morning, so I tell him I'll lie and inform the police that I've never seen him in my life. I feel that I've been shat on and that I shouldn't take it anymore. I feel that I should do what's right, but what's right (helping my blood or helping the pigs) isn't too clear. It's not exactly black and white. Here are my options: A) Fuck him. I tell the police who he is, and the charge should be transferred to its rightful owner. He's lied to me countless times about really important shit, why should I legally endanger myself to save his ass when he was perfectly willing to legally endanger me to save his own? And when I see him today, I lie right in his face, tell him that I did exactly as he said, but that he was so popular with the Gaston County police department that they knew who he was anyway. It's not like it makes a difference overall, he's already on the run from the police, he already has countless charges and is almost guaranteed to go to jail again anyway, why should I care? I definitely won't lose any sleep over it. B) He's my brother. I'm the good person here. Regardless of his transgressions against me, I tell the police that I really don't know who he is. The charge will be dropped, my name will be clear, and my brother won't receive any more charges than he already has. He's my brother, and despite all of the harm he has caused me, it won't make it any better to cause harm to him. However, giving false information the the authorities isn't something I want to do. [B]Edit:[/B] C) Same as A, except I also inform the police of his current whereabouts. This also isn't something I really want to do, because he is currently with his son and I don't want anything bad to happen to my nephew. I'm not asking FP to make a decision for me. The decision is ultimately mine to make, I just want some perspective on this. Some outside opinions would really help. I am pretty sure this isn't against any rules, but if it is, I'm sorry for wasting FP's time.
Seems like a huge asshole who uses possible everyone as his tool. I'd go for A.
A) Fuck him. I tell the police who he is, and the charge should be transferred to its rightful owner. He's lied to me countless times about really important shit, why should I legally endanger myself to save his ass when he was perfectly willing to legally endanger me to save his own? And when I see him today, I lie right in his face, tell him that I did exactly as he said, but that he was so popular with the Gaston County police department that they knew who he was anyway. It's not like it makes a difference overall, he's already on the run from the police, he already has countless charges and is almost guaranteed to go to jail again anyway, why should I care? I definitely won't lose any sleep over it. He sounds like a complete backstabbing shithead. fucking send him to jail.
Seems to me that the best thing to do would be to turn him in. If you don't, you are just enabling him and basically showing him that it's okay to do the things he does.
Pick A, it's wise, legal and jail/possible forced therapy may be good for your brother. If not, the he's just a total fuck-up who will spend the rest of his life in and out of jail. These things happen, don't let family-bonds cloud your judgement on his personality.
Do not lie to the police. Just tell them that it wasn't you, you believe it probably/possibly was your brother.
In a way, I'd just go and tell the police. From what you described of him, he's messed up in the head and is obviously just using you. Once he takes advantage and gets off free, he won't give anything in return. Blood doesn't mean shit
A. By lying to the police you're commiting an offence. If they find out you lied, it'll only come back to bite you in the ass. Your brother has had enough chances to come clean, and sort himself out. He hasn't. Turn him in.
I read to the point where you wrote that he have used your ID. And I already know what you should do. [b]Fuck that bastard over, how the fuck can you call him your brother.[/b]
I honestly think you should just turn him in. Ultimately you will only get yourself into more trouble by not telling them, true he is your brother but for the way he has treated you do you honestly think he deserves your niceities?
You really, really shouldn't lie to the police. I'd do A if I were you.
Just to add to the resounding common opinion. A, your brother is unlikely to change his ways, and he's gone and fucked things up for you by using your identity, which means he sees family as nothing but means to an end. He sounds like a manipulative asshole who deserves to be in jail. Sorry if it seems cold, but you and your Dad are probably better off without him
He fucking tried to kill you when you were seven and you're considering letting him go? Fuckin' A, man, choose A. [editline]10:50[/editline] Imagine someone looking for OP's brother was reading this thread
in jail he will become an even [b]worse[/b] person. if you have the chance to help him, i suggest that you help him, no matter what he's done in his life. let him be put in jail because of his actions one day, not yours.
A. he deserves it
A [editline]03:49PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Loader;17943181]in jail he will become an even [b]worse[/b] person. if you have the chance to help him, i suggest that you help him, no matter what he's done in his life. let him be put in jail because of his actions one day, not yours.[/QUOTE] It was his actions.
Turn him in, he's done nothing to deserve your pity. It doesn't matter if he's your brother; if he is repeatedly lying and backstabbing you then give him a taste of his own medicine.
[QUOTE=Loader;17943181]in jail he will become an even [b]worse[/b] person. if you have the chance to help him, i suggest that you help him, no matter what he's done in his life. let him be put in jail because of his actions one day, not yours.[/QUOTE] if he gets worse, he'll stay in jail longer. and there's a shitload of things he's done to get him in jail.
fuck him he has done nothing nice to you
A) He exploited your identity, he's a total fucking jerk shithead
I've been thinking about it, and now I have the idea that he might possibly try to kill me again if I turn him in. I'm already well aware that he is most definitely not willing to cooperate with the authorities. When they raided his house to try to arrest him, they rolled in deep on him. Multiple squad cars, and probably some dogs. He escaped capture by jumping out of a second story window and hiding in the woods, in a creek, for four hours in nothing but pajama pants. In this incredibly cold weather, I consider a feat like that to be almost super-human. Also, considering the things he has done in the past, which are of a much grander scale than even that, I'm convinced that he probably is super-human. He's never lost a fight as far as I'm aware, and I don't think he ever will. He could probably kill anyone he meets with his bare hands. In addition to his physical prowess, he is also incredibly intelligent. He also happens to be a sociopath. Given that he has already attempted murder against me once for no reason at all, there is a chance that he would do it again in retaliation for my snitching, and most likely succeed this time. I'm not completely convinced that this is the case, but the possibility can't be ignored.
Definately A. [B]Edit:[/b] Or what you just said above, you should just inform the police that he might try to kill you, they may try to do something about it. Or just say you dont want your name to be mentioned when they tell him who turned him in.
Maybe C) though
[QUOTE=J Paul;17943228]I've been thinking about it, and now I have the idea that he might possibly try to kill me again if I turn him in. I'm already well aware that he is most definitely not willing to cooperate with the authorities. When they raided his house to try to arrest him, they rolled in deep on him. Multiple squad cars, and probably some dogs. He escaped capture by jumping out of a second story window and hiding in the woods, in a creek, for four hours in nothing but pajama pants. In this incredibly cold weather, I consider a feat like that to be almost super-human. Also, considering the things he has done in the past, which are of a much grander scale than even that, I'm convinced that he probably is super-human. He's never lost a fight as far as I'm aware, and I don't think he ever will. He could probably kill anyone he meets with his bare hands. In addition to his physical prowess, he is also incredibly intelligent. He also happens to be a sociopath. Given that he has already attempted murder against me once for no reason at all, there is a chance that he would do it again in retaliation for my snitching, and most likely succeed this time. I'm not completely convinced that this is the case, but the possibility can't be ignored.[/QUOTE] the authorities have protection for these kinds of things when you talk to them, explore your options
@ Post #22 Tell this to the police, and try to trap your brother or something; lock him, make the police come quietly at night... Or something else.
[quote=jessesmith1;17943188]a. He deserves it[/quote] +1. A!
[QUOTE=J Paul;17943228]I've been thinking about it, and now I have the idea that he might possibly try to kill me again if I turn him in. I'm already well aware that he is most definitely not willing to cooperate with the authorities. When they raided his house to try to arrest him, they rolled in deep on him. Multiple squad cars, and probably some dogs. He escaped capture by jumping out of a second story window and hiding in the woods, in a creek, for four hours in nothing but pajama pants. In this incredibly cold weather, I consider a feat like that to be almost super-human. Also, considering the things he has done in the past, which are of a much grander scale than even that, I'm convinced that he probably is super-human. He's never lost a fight as far as I'm aware, and I don't think he ever will. He could probably kill anyone he meets with his bare hands. In addition to his physical prowess, he is also incredibly intelligent. He also happens to be a sociopath. Given that he has already attempted murder against me once for no reason at all, there is a chance that he would do it again in retaliation for my snitching, and most likely succeed this time. I'm not completely convinced that this is the case, but the possibility can't be ignored.[/QUOTE] Dear Paul, just tell him to the police. We have enough of low lives on the earth, don't contribute to it. You want your nephew to grow up and become just like him? You can lie to your brother too, tell him you didn't tell the police, seems like he'll trust you since you haven't "betrayed" him earlier.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;17943139]I read to the point where you wrote that he have used your ID. And I already know what you should do. [b]Fuck that bastard over, how the fuck can you call him your brother.[/b][/QUOTE] Identity fraud is a very serious offence. [editline]05:11[/editline] [QUOTE=Jessesmith1;17943325]its a felony.[/QUOTE] Or a felony.
[QUOTE=J Paul;17943031]I feel that I've been shat on and that I shouldn't take it anymore. I feel that I should do what's right, but what's right (helping my blood or helping the pigs) isn't too clear. [B]It's not exactly black and white.[/B][/QUOTE] No, but a copcar is. Turn him in. If he really cared about you or his family, he wouldn't be hiding from the cops just now. If you don't want anyone to know it was you, you can call it in anonymously from a payphone.
Pick A.
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