Good Anime Filler Done by an Anime Known for Terrible Fillers (One Piece Analysis) - General

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYeC5O-XZgo[/media] Everyone tells me that this anime butchered the manga to death but unfortunately I haven't had the luxury to start diving in. Tackling this anime was a behemoth of a task in itself and there is a definite drop in quality that comes right after this filler arc in particular which is why I think it stood out the most. It was also just wonderfully directed and was some thing I was wishing I would see more of when I started watching. Now the anime is rearing it's fifth or fourth last arc I think [sp](Germa/Whole Cake, Wano/Kaido, Shanks(?), then Raftel which may lead up to the final war)[/sp] and Toei's way of drawing out extremely tedious suspense moments and end with terrible and pointless cliff hangers make it all the harder to sit through.

I remember getting to this part and only later finding out it was filler, it wasn't as obvious as it usually is. Props to the people who wrote this arc. I got near the end of Dressrosa arc and I just dropped the anime there, and I doubt I will continue watching it. Manga is great, but the animation quality is absolute shit and the episodes are nothing but fluff for [I]ages[/I], I don't expect it to suddenly get better either.

[QUOTE=Bordellimies;52662898]I remember getting to this part and only later finding out it was filler, it wasn't as obvious as it usually is. Props to the people who wrote this arc. I got near the end of Dressrosa arc and I just dropped the anime there, and I doubt I will continue watching it. Manga is great, but the animation quality is absolute shit and the episodes are nothing but fluff for [I]ages[/I], I don't expect it to suddenly get better either.[/QUOTE] Yeah Dressrosa REALLY stretched the story a lot longer than it needed to be. I remember one episode in particular where it was entirely just a couple of characters pushing back Doflamingo's death cage. Apparently though the current arc of One Piece is supposedly, "the best in the series" which is what people always say when a new arc comes out. I honestly may switch over to the manga at the end of the current arc because I am just sick of Toei's cheap animation strategies.

The filler in One Piece is so trash it isn't even funny Silver Fox whatever the fuck his name is makes me want to die inside. Everything about that was painful. Outside of filler, Brook is great even though he comes at a time where the anime starts to shit the bed

The One Piece anime got rid of filler arcs almost entirely later in favor of putting fillers (as in: repeated jokes, characters having more screentime than in the manga, overstaying their welcome, etc.) into the episodes themselves. A user once estimated by comparing manga and anime that Toei roughly adapts 0.65 manga chapters per episode. He did the comparison with the Fishman Island arc I believe. This means that the rest of the 0.35 are filled with stuff that didn't happen in the manga. When the anime began airing, Toei translated 2 manga chapters per episode. This is also why the anime feels so slow-paced. It's awful. The anime itself, save for the music and voice acting is really not worth anyones time. I've been reading the manga for the past 12 years and I can't believe what Toei is doing with it. Some of their fillers downright contradict with things we have seen in the manga. Luffy is depicted as much weaker in the anime than in the manga, for example. Some of the earlier fillers as in the video pointed out, are really good though. But Toei is nowadays not trying anymore. I think there was some news about their finances and they showed that Toei doesn't make any money from anime shows and just uses them to push their movies (DB Super doesn't play any money as well, but the movies just like the OP movies are very successful). Which is why they put the lowest kind of effort into the anime of their shows. And they frequently change animation directors as well, resulting in heavy quality differences. [QUOTE=Paincake;52662338]Now the anime is rearing it's fifth or fourth last arc I think [sp](Germa/Whole Cake, Wano/Kaido, Shanks(?), then Raftel which may lead up to the final war)[/sp] and Toei's way of drawing out extremely tedious suspense moments and end with terrible and pointless cliff hangers make it all the harder to sit through.[/QUOTE] My personal believe is that, as the manga almost reaches [sp]Wano Country at 877[/sp] and with other things that still need to happen [sp]Wano-Country, fighting Kaido, then back at beating Big Mom, reuniting with Shanks, fighting against Blackbeards crew, the God's natural enemies arc, the will of D., the strawhats reaching or not reaching their dreams, finding the One Piece, the rest of the ancient weapons, etc.[/sp] that we have about 400-450 chapters left. Approx. 10 years.

[QUOTE=Antimuffin;52663284]The One Piece anime got rid of filler arcs almost entirely later in favor of putting fillers (as in: repeated jokes, characters having more screentime than in the manga, overstaying their welcome, etc.) into the episodes themselves. A user once estimated by comparing manga and anime that Toei roughly adapts 0.65 manga chapters per episode. He did the comparison with the Fishman Island arc I believe. This means that the rest of the 0.35 are filled with stuff that didn't happen in the manga. When the anime began airing, Toei translated 2 manga chapters per episode. It's awful. The anime itself, save for the music and voice acting is really not worth anyones time. I've been reading the manga for the past 12 years and I can't believe what Toei is doing with it. Some of their fillers downright contradict with things we have seen in the manga. Luffy is depicted as much weaker in the anime than in the manga, for example. Some of the earlier fillers as in the video pointed out, are really good though. But Toei is nowadays not trying anymore. I think there was some news about their finances and they showed that Toei doesn't make any money from anime shows and just uses them to push their movies (DB Super doesn't play any money as well, but the movies just like the OP movies are very successful). Which is why they put the lowest kind of effort into the anime of their shows. And they frequently change animation directors as well, resulting in heavy quality differences. My personal believe is that, as the manga almost reaches [sp]Wano Country at 877[/sp] and with other things that still need to happen [sp]Wano-Country, fighting Kaido, then back at beating Big Mom, reuniting with Shanks, fighting against Blackbeards crew, the God's natural enemies arc, the will of D., the strawhats reaching or not reaching their dreams, finding the One Piece, the rest of the ancient weapons, etc.[/sp] that we have about 400-450 chapters left. Approx. 10 years.[/QUOTE] I'm crossing my fingers that they go bankrupt or some thing which forces them to give the DBZ and One Piece IPs to Mad House or even Trigger. Unfortunately I don't think Japanese business is that simple.

i doubt that if the one piece anime becomes unprofittable (ha) they will give it to those studios which most likely have a worse track record of turning profits. After all, why waste money on making something with better animation when that doesn't matter? Besides it'd be better if those studios worked on more interesting properties (or goodness knows, new ip) than be stuck on one piece forever. Maybe they could do a standalone movie though.

the one piece anime is one of the most popular anime series over in japan, its never going to be unprofitable unless the manga author becomes a hack. And even then, probably won't be at bleach's level. What I would love is a reimagining of one piece later down the line. Like there have been with a few other shows, where they get a big studio with great animation and remake the episodes, trim them down to actual manga size, that sorta thing. But I mean considering how long one piece is, that wouldn't even happen for another 10-20 years even if it did.

I haven't watched one piece in eons but I highly doubt it can have terrible fillers when its already average in quality by default anyway. (just like dragon ball super) Now naruto... oh boy I wish I could throw Pierrot in a pile of flames...

[QUOTE=spectator1;52665476]I haven't watched one piece in eons but I highly doubt it can have terrible fillers when its already average in quality by default anyway. (just like dragon ball super) Now naruto... oh boy I wish I could throw Pierrot in a pile of flames...[/QUOTE] they mean story wise, not animation/art wise.

[QUOTE=Jabberwocky;52665146]i doubt that if the one piece anime becomes unprofittable (ha) they will give it to those studios which most likely have a worse track record of turning profits. After all, why waste money on making something with better animation when that doesn't matter? Besides it'd be better if those studios worked on more interesting properties (or goodness knows, new ip) than be stuck on one piece forever. Maybe they could do a standalone movie though.[/QUOTE] Merchandise is also something that makes big banks in the manga/anime industry. I think I've seen some statistics about anime shows and it's mostly not the anime shows that make the money but the merchandise involving the license. The difference was huge. And I think Toei or another company has the rights to distribute OP and the merchandising of that series is humongous. You pretty much see it everywhere in Japan. I own some nice figurines as well. [QUOTE=Naught;52665465]the one piece anime is one of the most popular anime series over in japan, its never going to be unprofitable unless the manga author becomes a hack. And even then, probably won't be at bleach's level. What I would love is a reimagining of one piece later down the line. Like there have been with a few other shows, where they get a big studio with great animation and remake the episodes, trim them down to actual manga size, that sorta thing. But I mean considering how long one piece is, that wouldn't even happen for another 10-20 years even if it did.[/QUOTE] There are TV episodes if you want to check them out with improved animation. The latest one that is being remade is the Arlong-park arc about Nami. They have also done Enies Lobby for example. TV episodes of about 100 minutes length I think. Problem for me with them is that they are too compressed and feel rushed when you stuff like 30-40 manga chapters into 100 minutes of playtime. But they are kinda cool to check out.