• Billboards shun religion, promote separation of church and state
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[url=http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/billboards-shun-religion-promote-608792.html]Source[/url] [release]The Freedom From Religion Foundation plans to put messages on 50 billboards in metro Atlanta this week as part of a blitz through the Bible Belt shunning religion and advocating separation of church and state. [IMG]http://www.ajc.com/multimedia/dynamic/00663/fp-sign_663454c.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.ajc.com/multimedia/dynamic/00663/fp-sign2_663453c.jpg[/IMG] The signs, which will be up for a month, are planned in DeKalb, Fulton and Cobb counties. Other cities targeted by the Wisconsin-based nonprofit are Louisville, New Orleans and Tulsa. Messages include: " Imagine No Religion” and “Sleep In On Sundays.” One quotes the late Thelma “Butterfly” McQueen, who played the maid Prissy in "Gone with the Wind.” McQueen, who was an atheist, said: “As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of religion.” Co-President Annie Laurie Gaylor said the educational nonprofit hopes the "splash" in Atlanta will break through a taboo surrounding criticism of religion. “You can talk about everything else, but you sure aren’t supposed to say anything bad about religion,” Gaylor said. Craig Gleason, a Johns Creek musician, said the billboards are doing what many who are non-religious accuse Christians and others of doing – proselytizing. They want “to get people to come across to their way of thinking,” he said. Gleason said he was once an agnostic, someone who doesn't believe in either the existence or nonexistence of God, but is now a Christian. “You folks don’t have a clue who you’re messing with,” he said of the foundation. “You’re not messing with Craig Gleason or the little church on the corner. This is between you and the Creator.” Perry Mitchell, a retired ad agency executive who lives in Druid Hills, is a foundation member who says he knows it may offend some people. “I just feel like any group has the right to espouse their own ideas and beliefs and the Freedom from Religion Foundation has that right as well as any church or synagogue.” Mitchell said he grew up a Methodist but became an atheist nearly 50 years ago. He began questioning religion with the start of the civil rights movement when members of his church didn’t want blacks to attend. Rabbi Joshua Lesser of Congregation Bet Haverim in Atlanta agrees that campaign is provocative. "Unfortunately, these folks are missing the opportunity to have allies in the religious community who are free thinking by having such antagonistic tag lines," Lesser said. "It’s good marketing, but I don’t think good marketing always makes for good relationships.” Don Kemp of Suwanee has seen the billboards in other cities. He thinks the message is flawed, but the organization has the right to express it. "Freedom from religion? I think that’s a pipe dream,” said Kemp, a business owner, who is a Christian. The foundation has more than 16,000 members nationally and 270 in Georgia. It is the same organization behind a federal lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the National Day of Prayer.[/release] The Darwin billboard cracked me up :v: FFRF FTW!
because flaming is the best way to make you point :downs: [B]EDIT:[/B] better said that you shouldn't stoop down to the level of shunning to get your point through give me more boxes i need to make a box fort :smug:
ugh. i'm sick of religious people tend to over react to anything
[QUOTE=privatesmily;24772004]because flaming is the best way to make you point :downs:[/QUOTE] I don't think that's flaming
[QUOTE=privatesmily;24772004]because flaming is the best way to make you point :downs:[/QUOTE] "There are other atheists/separation of church and state is a good thing" = flaming
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Incoming bandwagon of angsty religious teens hating on Atheism.
[QUOTE=Glitch360;24772057]THISGONBGUD.gif[/QUOTE] As long as they keep on putting up some more scientists billboards, I'm down with this
I give it a week before it's down, legally or not.
I think it should be like this: 1) Religious people practice their religion freely, without making any efforts to discriminate or violate another person's rights. Only speaking out if their rights are trampled on. 2) Atheists just don't believe in religion and let the religious go about their business, unhindered. Only speaking out if any rights are being violated or discrimination is being spread. EDIT: Yes, yes, I am fully aware that this will never happen given how some religions insist on enforcing their ideals on others and how some atheists are like "RELIGION IS USELESS, HURR, BAN ALL OF IT".
[QUOTE=Vaun Strungel;24772145]I think it should be like this: Religious people practice their religion freely, without making any efforts to violate another person's rights. Atheists just don't believe in religion and let the religious go about their business, unhindered. Only speaking out if any rights are being violated.[/QUOTE] That's mostly how it is, just a vocal minority on both sides bitch so loud it looks like there is a lot of them.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;24772152][B]That's mostly how it is[/B], just a vocal minority on both sides bitch so loud it looks like there is a lot of them.[/QUOTE] LBGT right, abortion, don't ask don't tell, etc etc
[QUOTE=evilweazel;24772152]That's mostly how it is, just a vocal minority on both sides bitch so loud it looks like there is a lot of them.[/QUOTE] Exactly, I hate how the words of a few people paints prejudices against the majority. Imagine how easily people could get along if they just kept their noses in their own business. [QUOTE=Xen Tricks;24772183]LBGT right, abortion, don't ask don't tell, etc etc[/QUOTE] Edited: I still think people should govern only themselves using their religion, but I simply cannot see that possibly happening with some religions driving people to take an active stance on matters. (Thanks, Doomkiwi).
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;24772183]LBGT right, abortion, don't ask don't tell, etc etc[/QUOTE] And there are people speaking out about those because it infringes their rights, like the quote said.
I don't see why people are like PREPARE FOR SHITSTORM, Usually it is one or two dumb Christians who are trolling and everyone else rates them dumb.
[QUOTE=Vaun Strungel;24772145]I think it should be like this: 1) Religious people practice their religion freely, without making any efforts to discriminate or violate another person's rights. Only speaking out if their rights are trampled on. 2) Atheists just don't believe in religion and let the religious go about their business, unhindered. Only speaking out if any rights are being violated or discrimination is being spread.[/QUOTE] Not when religion causes conflict, one can't stand by and be an unhelpful observer
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[QUOTE=Lemonator;24772274]I don't see why people are like PREPARE FOR SHITSTORM, Usually it is one or two dumb Christians who are trolling and everyone else rates them dumb.[/QUOTE] Don't forget the one or two "hardcore" Atheists with a superiority complex who go on about how evil religion is and how anyone who don't agree with them needs to be euthanize. Shame, it only takes a few Ahole Christians or Ahole Atheists to set up a stereotype for whole group of people. [editline]02:19PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;24772313]Not when religion causes conflict, one can't stand by and be an unhelpful observer[/QUOTE] That I have to agree with.
I love it when religious people put up billboards and atheists bitch and moan, but when atheists do it, it's A-OK.
[QUOTE=Master117;24772375]I love it when religious people put up billboards and atheists bitch and moan, but when atheists do it, it's A-OK.[/QUOTE] Facepunch Band Wagon effect. :bandwagon:
[QUOTE=Master117;24772375]I love it when religious people put up billboards and atheists bitch and moan, but when atheists do it, it's A-OK.[/QUOTE] Didn't some atheists put up a billboard that had part of the pledge without "under god"? Then some Christians proceeded to vandalize it? Edit: Oh, you were talking about FP.
[QUOTE=Master117;24772375]I love it when religious people put up billboards and atheists bitch and moan, but when atheists do it, it's A-OK.[/QUOTE] I have never seen a single atheist bitch about religious billboards in the manner religious people do. Are you sure you're not confusing normal billboards with religious items on public/governmental ground?
[QUOTE=Vaun Strungel;24772197] Again, people should only use religion to govern themselves as individuals. Examples: Don't believe in abortion? Then don't go to abortion clinics. Don't believe in LGBT rights? Sure, you may be entitled to your own opinions, but at least have the decency to treat them as human beings. They aren't doing any harm to you, so why try to harm them?[/QUOTE] This is quite possibly the most baffling case of "Not knowing what the fuck he's talking about" that I have ever seen. Here's the thing about abortion: People who see abortion as bad see it as murdering babies. Them seeing abortion happening is like whitnessing murder on a grand scale of those who can't defend themselves. It's not like "Oh I don't like this brand of milk, I'm not going to buy it" it's more like "Holy shit, these crazy people are murdering babies! We have to stop them!". And the LGBT thing, the christian right sees them as abominations and MUST stop them if they want a world free of sin so that they can be saved. It's not like they can just let bigons be bigons with these people as not doing anything means you are a fence sitter and will literally be trapped in purgatory after death. They also see it as a disgrace to the "sanctity of marriage" (even though brittney spear's 2 hour wedding fucked that up harder) and an attack/perversion of their values. At least TRY to see it from the opposition's perspective, otherwise it makes you sound like a complete prat.
[QUOTE=Master117;24772375]I love it when religious people put up billboards and atheists bitch and moan, but when atheists do it, it's A-OK.[/QUOTE] Putting up bible versus and socially conservative stupidity =/= "There are other atheists, you're not alone" and "Hey, there's SUPPOSED to be separation of church and state!". You'd think you'd understand that much.
[QUOTE=doomkiwi;24772593]This is quite possibly the most baffling case of "Not knowing what the fuck he's talking about" that I have ever seen. Here's the thing about abortion: People who see abortion as bad see it as murdering babies. Them seeing abortion happening is like whitnessing murder on a grand scale of those who can't defend themselves. It's not like "Oh I don't like this brand of milk, I'm not going to buy it" it's more like "Holy shit, these crazy people are murdering babies! We have to stop them!". And the LGBT thing, the christian right sees them as abominations and MUST stop them if they want a world free of sin so that they can be saved. It's not like they can just let bigons be bigons with these people as not doing anything means you are a fence sitter and will literally be trapped in purgatory after death. They also see it as a disgrace to the "sanctity of marriage" (even though brittney spear's 2 hour wedding fucked that up harder) and an attack/perversion of their values. At least TRY to see it from the opposition's perspective, otherwise it makes you sound like a complete prat.[/QUOTE] Damn, I think that's what happens when I decide to post at 3 AM. Anyways, I guess you're right, some religious values just aren't compatible with my "keep you nose where it belongs" kind of thinking.
Isn't is supposed to be "Season's Greetings"?
What the FUCK is with the "Praise Darwin" I want to smack the person who made that billboard.
[QUOTE=revrend_slapaho;24772018]ugh. i'm sick of religious people tend to over react to anything[/QUOTE] Same thing happens with a lot of atheists.
I find Atheists are more annoying than Christians mostly.
Heathen's Greetings is clever. I'm going to use that.
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