Best Car for price/reliability?

[Hack]

Hello, I am 17 looking for a car. My budget is <$5000. What is the best car that: 1. Looks good. 2. Isn't Honda. 3. Is reliable. 4. Has good performance. 5. Could be possibly a coupe.

Thanks :D

I live in Canada btw, so kijiji.ca and autotrader.ca? :P

[red pan]

Whats so bad about Honda anyways? They are cheap and reliable, especially for a first car, get a little civic, if you knock it around a bit at least you're not paying an insane amount to repair it, they are also decent on mpg. Looks are mainly opinion though

[JDK721]

[QUOTE=Hack;32364625]Hello, I am 17 looking for a car. My budget is <$5000. What is the best car that: 1. Looks good. [B]2. Isn't Honda.[/B] 3. Is reliable. 4. Has good performance. 5. Could be possibly a coupe.
[/QUOTE]

uhh, why

[Hack]

[QUOTE=JDK721;32365452]uhh, why[/QUOTE]

I don't feel like driving around a 100 hp engine with a leaf blower attached to the back looking like I am desperate to attract attention.

[Saber15]

[QUOTE=Hack;32366131]I don't feel like driving around a 100 hp engine with a leaf blower attached to the back looking like I am desperate to attract attention.[/QUOTE]
Idiots modifying their cars with fart cans have nothing to do with the performance of a car. If you want something that goes fast, is cheap, and is reliable, you're stuck pretty much with either Honda, Mazda or Subaru.

[red pan]

Then make it not sound like a leaf blower? Anyways what part of Canada?

[Hack]

[QUOTE=red pan;32366286]Then make it not sound like a leaf blower? Anyways what part of Canada?[/QUOTE]

Toronto.

Also, are 1997-2004 mustangs any chance reliable? I am finding lots of ads like this:

[url]http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-2000-Ford-Mustang-Automatic-Coupe-W0QQAdIdZ315202355[/url]

They look good.

Anyone know?

[editline]19th September 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Saber15;32366244]Idiots modifying their cars with fart cans have nothing to do with the performance of a car. If you want something that goes fast, is cheap, and is reliable, you're stuck pretty much with either Honda, Mazda or Subaru.[/QUOTE]

Mazda's and Honda's do NOT go fast lol.

They are just cheap and reliable.

[red pan]

You don't need something that goes fast anyways, you're 17

[Saber15]

[QUOTE=Hack;32366344]
Mazda's and Honda's do NOT go fast lol.

They are just cheap and reliable.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Mazda-rx7-3rd-generation01.jpg/800px-Mazda-rx7-3rd-generation01.jpg[/img]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/3RD-Acura-Integra.jpg/800px-3RD-Acura-Integra.jpg[/img]

[Hack]

I guess I will just get my dad's pontiac grand prix. It looks good, he used syntetic oil for all the changes of 120k miles, and it has 200hp.

[img]http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2003/09/05/168115.2-lg.jpg[/img]

What should I do with the extra $2 grand? What modifications will make it better?

[thattaco]

save the money for the alt. when it goes out.

[turke]

[QUOTE=Hack;32366344]Toronto.

Also, are 1997-2004 mustangs any chance reliable? I am finding lots of ads like this:

[url]http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-2000-Ford-Mustang-Automatic-Coupe-W0QQAdIdZ315202355[/url]

[/QUOTE]

those wheels are a joke

[editline]19th September 2011[/editline]

and a v6 auto

[editline]19th September 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Saber15;32366471][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Mazda-rx7-3rd-generation01.jpg/800px-Mazda-rx7-3rd-generation01.jpg[/img]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/3RD-Acura-Integra.jpg/800px-3RD-Acura-Integra.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

thats an acura m8

[red pan]

Acura is the luxury branch of Honda

[Dylan_94]

[QUOTE=Hack;32366344]
Mazda's and Honda's do NOT go fast lol.

They are just cheap and reliable.[/QUOTE]

So you're one of those people.

[editline]18th September 2011[/editline]

[url]http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/mss/cto/2562280871.html[/url]

2003 honda accord coupe EX.

240hp v6 0-60mph(0-100kmh) in less than 7 seconds

[Second-gear-of-]

[QUOTE=Hack;32366524]I guess I will just get my dad's pontiac grand prix. It looks good, he used syntetic oil for all the changes of 120k miles, and it has 200hp.

[IMG]http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2003/09/05/168115.2-lg.jpg[/IMG]

What should I do with the extra $2 grand? What modifications will make it better?[/QUOTE]

The Accord Dylan posted is better in every way. Not to mention more luxurious, safer, more reliable, and isn't a Pontiac.

Honda:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/fhe7A.jpg[/IMG]

Grand Prix:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9BjQD.jpg[/IMG]

[justin1992]

[QUOTE=Hack;32366344]Toronto.

Also, are 1997-2004 mustangs any chance reliable? I am finding lots of ads like this:

[url]http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-2000-Ford-Mustang-Automatic-Coupe-W0QQAdIdZ315202355[/url]

They look good.

Anyone know?

[editline]19th September 2011[/editline]

Mazda's and Honda's do NOT go fast lol.

They are just cheap and reliable.[/QUOTE]

I have lost all respect for you :/

Buy yourself one of those shit-stangs or a grand prix and race me, then tell me my RX-7 is slow. I can kick half the shit out on the streets asses without breaking a sweat and I'm pulling less than 150 hp. Who told you mazda and honda were shit? I need to know so i can go slap them.

Don't get me wrong i myself love stangs, but just because it has a mustang logo doesn't mean it is good or fast, especially if it is a base, bottom of the line model. Get yerself a boss 302 or Salleen/Roush and then you can have one that is actually good

[Hack]

[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;32367386]The Accord Dylan posted is better in every way. Not to mention more luxurious, safer, more reliable, and isn't a Pontiac.

Honda:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/fhe7A.jpg[/IMG]

Grand Prix:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/9BjQD.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Except:
1)the Honda has 60k km more.
2)engine not changed with synthetic oil.
3)I get the grand prix free, I get 5k extra to do whatever I want.

Also regarding to Justin, when I talk about hondas and mazdas, I talk about the ones that are the most common. Try racing a 4 cylinder civic or a 4 cylinder Mazda 3 versus the grand prix.

Yes, those special japanese cars are fast, only take up 1% of honda market, and Honda drivers.

Those Japanese cars are fast, indeed, but the insurance goes off the scale for those.

[Dylan_94]

If you had the option to get a newer car for free, i don't even see why you made a thread. There would be no point in buying a car that is worth almost the same as a car you could get for free. Just keep your money and save up for something cooler like a 350z, s2000, or something. My mom has the same grand prix, and it's decently quick, but has had quite a bit of strut issues.

[editline]18th September 2011[/editline]

I also personally feel that grand prix's are girls cars. I've only ever seen girls drive them.

[Hack]

I personally feel that hondas are for old people. The black grand prix is not Girly at all. The other collies like red are.

I made this thread to see the other options.

[img]http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/pontiac/pontiac_grand_prix_gtp_2004_01_s.jpg[/img]

if that's for girls, I don't know what is for men.

[justin1992]

Insurance is actually only $100 more than it was with my 1997 GMC Jimmy, which was like $50 less than my K10

[~Conquer~]

DURR HE DONT WANT HONDU LUTS DERUL THRED HUHHUHHUH

get a grand am bro guddest car ever.

[Penis Colada]

[QUOTE=Hack;32368012]I personally feel that hondas are for old people. The black grand prix is not Girly at all. The other collies like red are.

I made this thread to see the other options.

[img]http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/pontiac/pontiac_grand_prix_gtp_2004_01_s.jpg[/img]

if that's for girls, I don't know what is for men.[/QUOTE]

Making a poor car buying decision: SO MANLY!

[Super_Noodle]

NO YOU CANT NOT LIKE HONDA YOU MUST LIKE HONDA

Anyways you could always get a Saturn....
[url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110621182525/callofduty/images/2/20/Kobe-U-Mad.jpg][img]http://autopolis.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/saturn-front_34-1.jpg?w=450&h=206[/img][/url]

[arcticdrinker]

So Honda is bad in your book but Toyota is a ok? They're basically the same company. Don't get a mustang, they're a dime a dozen. Just get a 75 Lincoln Mark V. All your problems will be solved when you're rolling in bitches

[~Conquer~]

get 80's boxy corolla sex mobile

[red pan]

Prius will solve your performance issues.

[Ergolicious]

[QUOTE=Super_Noodle;32368197]NO YOU CANT NOT LIKE HONDA YOU MUST LIKE HONDA

Anyways you could always get a Saturn....
[url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110621182525/callofduty/images/2/20/Kobe-U-Mad.jpg][img]http://autopolis.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/saturn-front_34-1.jpg?w=450&h=206[/img][/url][/QUOTE]

[img]http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg853/scaled.php?server=853&filename=mrsaturn2.png&res=medium[/img]

agree

[editline]19th September 2011[/editline]

3k for 58k miles driven by an old lady, crazy old ladies and manual transmissions

[iThermal]

get an E30

[Second-gear-of-]

[QUOTE=Hack;32367892]Except:
1)the Honda has 60k km more.
2)engine not changed with synthetic oil.
3)I get the grand prix free, I get 5k extra to do whatever I want.

Try racing a 4 cylinder civic or a 4 cylinder Mazda 3 versus the grand prix.
[/QUOTE]

1/2 - Hondas are known for reliability. Recently documented was a 199x Accord that was about to hit 1m miles. He didn't mention synthetic oil.

3. That 5k extra will be in repair bills. It's a late model GM in GMs bad era.

And a regular Mazda 3 would kick the Grand Prix V6's ass. It has 167 HP in a car that weighs way less, and if you get the Speed3, it has 263HP out of an I4.
And the Civic SI would kick the GP's ass too.

[Missing User]

[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;32368839]1/2 - Hondas are known for reliability. Recently documented was a 199x Accord that was about to hit 1m miles. He didn't mention synthetic oil.

3. That 5k extra will be in repair bills. It's a late model GM in GMs bad era.

And a regular Mazda 3 would kick the Grand Prix V6's ass. It has 167 HP in a car that ways way less, and if you get the Speed3, it has 263HP out of an I4.
And the Civic SI would kick the GP's ass too.[/QUOTE]

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