"We pushed the reset back to 1955. We have to deal realistically with an autocratic ruler of Russia - Polidicks

[quote](CNN) - Two high-profile senators on Sunday continued to admonish Russia for not handing over Edward Snowden, the leaker of National Security Agency secrets who's hiding in Russia as he seeks asylum in Ecuador. [B]Republican Sen. John McCain said Snowden's actions amounted to a "slap in the face to the United States" and called President Vladimir Putin "an old colonel KGB apparatchik" who "dreams of the restoration of the Russian Empire."[/B] "I think we pushed the reset back down to about 1955. And so we have to deal realistically with an autocratic ruler of Russia who continues to repress people," McCain said on "Fox News Sunday.""They thumb our nose at us no matter what the issue is, and we should deal realistically, not a return of the Cold War, but realistically with Vladimir Putin," he also said. After news that Snowden left Hong Kong for Russia last week, President Barack Obama said Thursday he's "not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker." A top Russian lawmaker said Sunday that Russia must not hand Snowden over to the United States. "It's not a matter of Snowden's usefulness to Russia, it's a matter of principle," Alexei Pushkov - who heads the international affairs committee at the Duma, the lower house of parliament - said on Twitter. Meanwhile, Putin has said, "The sooner he selects his final destination point, the better both for us and for himself." [B]Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer said Sunday he's not sure what should be done to get Snowden back, but Russia should "pay a price" for "doing what they did."[/B] "(Putin) ought to know he is going to pay a price here because he goes out of his way to stick his finger in the eye of America whether it is Iran, Syria and now this," he said on the same Fox program. "He has got lots of vulnerabilities."[/quote] [url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/30/mccain-schumer-on-snowden-russia-should-pay-a-price/[/url] Russia should "pay a price" for Snowden. :v:

Unsurprising that the media is mad at Snowden, but the part about Russian oppression is true.

[Quote]he's "not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker."[/quote] If he's just "a 29-year-old hacker", why did they care in the first place? Strictly speaking, did he even HACK anything? [Sp]backpedal backpedal[/sp]

We pushed the reset button back to 1973. We have to deal realistically with an administration of the United States who spies on people.

[QUOTE=RandomGamer342;41255834]If he's just "a 29-year-old hacker", why did they care in the first place? Strictly speaking, did he even HACK anything? [Sp]backpedal backpedal[/Sp][/QUOTE] Being called hacker is not really literal anymore and I don't believe he hacked anything seeing how he probably already had access. On topic however, even though Snowden shouldn't face trial for what he did the remark about Putin being an oppressive autocrat is very true. Then again you'd be hard pressed to look for a ruler of Russia that wasn't like that.

[QUOTE=RandomGamer342;41255834]If he's just "a 29-year-old hacker", why did they care in the first place? Strictly speaking, did he even HACK anything? [Sp]backpedal backpedal[/sp][/QUOTE] I don't think so. I'm pretty sure that his job just put him in a position where he had access to the things that he talked about. It would be like arresting someone who took something from an assembly line that they worked at for breaking and entering. They had a right to be there to begin with.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;41255851]We pushed the reset button back to 1973. We have to deal realistically with an administration of the United States who spies on people.[/QUOTE] Missing the point entirely. This article is about what Russia's refusal to cooperate means for US-Russian relations. Putin has made it clear that he is only interested in cooperating with the US as long as Russia has something directly to gain. [editline]30th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=froztshock;41255886]I don't think so. I'm pretty sure that his job just put him in a position where he had access to the things that he talked about. It would be like arresting someone who took something from an assembly line that they worked at for breaking and entering. They had a right to be there to begin with.[/QUOTE] Snowden used an exploit in the authentication system to give himself administrator access, which is how he was able to pull and export all the data without it getting flagged.

I'm willing to bet the government didn't tell us because of how stupid we are, if we had any say in this we'd make the worst decisions possible and risk our country to getting fucked up.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;41255851]We pushed the reset button back to 1973. We have to deal realistically with an administration of the United States who spies on people.[/QUOTE] I get the feeling we never really departed from that, honestly.

I thought they were talking about Obama.

[QUOTE=G3rman;41255982]I thought they were talking about Obama.[/QUOTE] Chuck Schumer is a Democrat

When asked for a comment Russia said "Bring it on."

On a positive note, at least they admit "We", The US, fucked up.

So does he want WWIII to be a thing or what?

Basically all I get from this is We spy on our own countryman but that's okay cause Russia is more oppressive than we are.

[QUOTE=Saxon;41256366]Basically all I get from this is We spy on our own countryman but that's okay cause Russia is more oppressive than we are.[/QUOTE] This guy gets it!

It's especially bad that US Citizens are targeted. Spying on other countries is business as usual, and has to be defended against by the countries affected.

In other news, the pot calls the kettle black. More to follow.

[QUOTE=catbarf;41255890]Missing the point entirely. This article is about what Russia's refusal to cooperate means for US-Russian relations. Putin has made it clear that he is only interested in cooperating with the US as long as Russia has something directly to gain. ...[/QUOTE] Good for Putin then, I wish our leaders behaved more like that.

[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;41257315]Good for Putin then, I wish our leaders behaved more like that.[/QUOTE] You wish more nations would backstab each other and refuse to respect international treaties when it suits them?

Like the US does? Countries leaders should put their own countries priorities first, just because the US wants something, doesn't mean you should automatically give it to them.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;41255851]We pushed the reset button back to 1973. We have to deal realistically with an administration of the United States who spies on people.[/QUOTE] It's like I'm in a book. What's next, mind control?

[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eumGRbI93vw/T05F5uLsBDI/AAAAAAAABFg/xjcg8L8B7gI/s320/doc_brown-full-1.jpg[/IMG] Great Scott!

[QUOTE]"dreams of the restoration of the Russian Empire."[/QUOTE] Hell yeah. People would normally say Putin wants to bring back Communism but we all know the Tzar was better. [video=youtube;OLO0zCDhC7E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLO0zCDhC7E[/video] Glory to the White army! American politicians can be incredibly stupid sometimes.

[QUOTE=catbarf;41255890]Missing the point entirely. This article is about what Russia's refusal to cooperate means for US-Russian relations. Putin has made it clear that he is only interested in cooperating with the US as long as Russia has something directly to gain.[/quote] which is exactly what they should do , especially when dealing with a country who has been trying to fuck with them for the past 60+ years.