• Scientists Trying New Trick to Catch You in a Lie
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[QUOTE]Ever since John Larson, a medical student at UC Berkeley, invented the polygraph in 1921, scientists have tried to come up with a more reliable way to decipher autonomous signals from the human brain whenever a subject is bending the truth. Now scientists at Northwestern University in Illinois say they have found another way to tell if a suspect who denies if he has even seen something, like a murder weapon, is lying. We'll stay with the male gender for this story, even though we know that the gentler gender can also commit mayhem. If our suspect -- he for brevity -- says he never saw it, and yet he really did see it, a brain wave called P300 lights up like a Christmas tree. That elevated cerebral activity shows up if he is hooked to an electroencephalograph, according to John B. Meixner and J. Peter Rosenfeld, who disclosed their findings in the journal Psychological Science.[/QUOTE] [img]http://a.abcnews.com/images/Technology/GTY_polygraph_jt_141004_16x9_992.jpg[/img] [url]http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/scientists-trick-catch-lie/story?id=25967628[/url] Interesting new way to detect if somebody is lying in my opinion.
[quote]We'll stay with the male gender for this story, even though we know that the gentler gender can also commit mayhem.[/quote] Uhh, what?
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46155456]Uhh, what?[/QUOTE] They're keeping the testing restrained to male subjects, but they're not suggesting that lying is restricted to guys, as well.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46155456]Uhh, what?[/QUOTE] It's political correctness for "We didn't have any female volunteers when testing this thing and don't want every PC dipshit crying bloody murder about it".
[QUOTE=TestECull;46155504]It's political correctness for "We didn't have any female volunteers when testing this thing and don't want every PC dipshit crying bloody murder about it".[/QUOTE] A really weird way of phrasing it when they could've just said "So far testing has been only been carried out on male subjects". Nonetheless this is really cool, it'll hopefully work out better than the polygraph, whose results can be interfered with, just by clenching your sphincter.
[QUOTE][B]We'll stay with the male gender for this story[/B], even though we know that the gentler gender can also commit mayhem. If our suspect -- [B]he for brevity[/B] -- says he never saw it[/QUOTE] The fact that you even have to specify this makes me sad. Just fucking say he or whatever, who cares.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;46155544]The fact that you even have to specify this makes me sad. Just fucking say he or whatever, who cares.[/QUOTE] Stupid people care.
What's with all the paragraph breaks? Although this does sound interesting
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;46155463]They're keeping the testing restrained to male subjects, but they're not suggesting that lying is restricted to guys, as well.[/QUOTE] I think "gentler gender" might've been what he reacted to
The article snippet in op reads like its from the turn of the 20th century
I think he totally understood the sentence, but was perplexed that someone would write this in a scientific article.
Can te machine detect privileges as well?
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46155456]Uhh, what?[/QUOTE] just saying that cis-gendered people can also commit crimes
[QUOTE=Sableye;46156714]just saying that cis-gendered people can also commit crimes[/QUOTE] Actually not at all. Do you even know what cis is?
This could be a pretty interesting development, if it can reliably tell when someone is lying. All a polygraph does is react to common signs of nervousness, making it practically worthless for actually detecting lies.
[QUOTE=Sableye;46156714]just saying that cis-gendered people can also commit crimes[/QUOTE] The article says this to try to keep people from thinking that these tests represent one gender and not the other. It mentions nothing of gender-identity or sexuality. Cisgender means you were born male and identify as male or vice versa.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;46155463]They're keeping the testing restrained to male subjects, but they're not suggesting that lying is restricted to guys, as well.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3yon2GyoiM#t=300[/media] [editline]5th October 2014[/editline] "There are seventeen different things a guy can do when he lies to give himself away. A guys got seventeen pantomimes. A woman's got twenty, but a guy's got seventeen..."
Here goes the gender shit again. Who cares, and why was that in the article?
[quote]a brain wave called P300[/quote] FYI, a P300 is a positive ERP peak that appears around 300ms after stimulus onset. Just clarifying that P300 is not an exclusive observation for lie detection using electroencephalography.
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