North Korea threatens 'all-out war' over warship sinking report
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In the most serious attack for over 20 years, a North Korean torpedo was found to be responsible for the sinking of the Cheonan, a 300-ft South Korean warship, which sank on March 26 with the loss of 46 lives.
An official report, carried out by South Korean investigators together with teams from the United States, Britain, Australia and Sweden, said the evidence pointed "overwhelmingly to the conclusion that the torpedo was fired by a North Korean submarine." It added: "There is no other plausible explanation."
South Korea vowed "resolute countermeasures" against the North and is likely to appeal to the United Nations for further sanctions on the rogue state.
Barack Obama immediately offered his "strong and unequivocal" support to Lee Myung-bak, his South Korean counterpart. "This attack constitutes a challenge to international peace and security," the White House said.
Britain, Japan and Australia all joined the chorus of condemnation.
William Hague, the British Foreign secretary, said North Korea had a "total indifference to human life and international obligations". He said Britain was working on an "appropriate multilateral response to this callous act".
Robert Gibbs, the White House spokesman, said: "This act of aggression is one more instance of North Korea's unacceptable behaviour and defiance of international law.... Such unacceptable behaviour only deepens North Korea's isolation."
He said the attack "constitutes a challenge to international peace and security".
However, North Korea strongly denied responsibility for the attack, calling the investigation a "fabrication orchestrated by a group of traitors". It said it would "promptly" react to any retaliation and further sanctions with "various forms of tough measures including an all-out war". In recent weeks, North Korea has begun massing more troops on the border with the South.
China, the last major ally of Pyongyang, gave a cautious and lukewarm response, saying that all parties should "remain calm" and that it would conduct its own "assessment" of the findings. Without China's support at the UN Security Council, North Korea is likely to escape punishment.
"China is not directly involved, so it should not take a stance on either side or express views on the incident," said Zhang Liangui, a North Korean expert at the Central Party School, where Communist Party leaders are trained.
"South Korea's submission of its report to the UN will clearly force China into making a stance and this will be a challenge. This will be handled by the Foreign ministry, but my view is that China, in accordance with its rising status as a major country, should not go against the rest of the world, but should consider its interests in line with the majority," he added.
In Seoul, the long weeks of mourning since the attack and the personal stories of the young men who lost their lives have deepened the sense of outrage, piling pressure on the government not to allow the lost lives to pass unavenged.
However, military retaliation against North Korea seems to have already been ruled out. "Nobody wants a war on the Korean peninsula and the truth is that it is not easy to take revenge after the event," said Choi Jong-min, whose brother-in-law, Petty Officer First Class Jo Jin-young, was among the dead.
"Military reprisals should have been taken there and then [at the time of the sinking], or not at all," he added.
South Korea has called an emergency meeting of its National Security Council to discuss its options. However, experts said that most of the punitive actions on offer stand to hurt Seoul at least as much as Pyongyang.
"There really are few good options out there for South Korea," said Daniel Pinkston, a North Korea expert at the International Crisis Group. "They can go to the UN, but in reality China is very unlikely to back serious economic measures against the North which is already in economic crisis.
"Anything too drastic, such as military retaliation or real moves to destabilise the North's economy risks regional instability that could trigger market crashes, capital flight and an overnight loss of regional confidence. It is really hard to see how the South ends up better off after this."
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N. Korea vs. S. Korea. World's longest lasting war.
I wouldn't worry so much over their rhetorical posturing.
Start worrying when they start mobilizing a million+ soldiers.
It will never happen, just like those other 10000 times NK did this,
Oh Shit.
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Chances of a nuclear war in my lifetime are resoundingly high.
Shits goin down.
North Korea's threats is equivalent to Osama Bin Laden's, nothing to see here.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;22064654]Oh Shit.
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Chances of a nuclear war in my lifetime are resoundingly high.[/QUOTE]
I doubt NK will go nuclear against it's closest neighbour.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;22064654]Oh Shit.
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Chances of a nuclear war in my lifetime are resoundingly high.[/QUOTE]
If by Nuclear War you mean NK setting off one nuke then china destroying both of them, yes.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22064720]North Korea's threats is equivalent to Osama Bin Laden's, nothing to see here.[/QUOTE]
yeah, 9/11, USS Cole, US embassy bombings, etc.
nothing to see
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Dictators don't care about the lives of their followers meaning war is not a problem. I really wouldn't be surprised if World war 3 comes knocking radioactively on my door
Here we go again.
Yes, because you're all credible military and political analysts. :downs:
[QUOTE=JDK721v2;22064897]yeah, 9/11, USS Cole, US embassy bombings, etc.
nothing to see
:downs:[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but the last attack was almost 10 years ago. All the others today are now horribly planned, or just simple failures.
Also including the annual 'threat' which Osama never delivers.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;22064654]Oh Shit.
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Chances of a nuclear war in my lifetime are resoundingly high.[/QUOTE]
Nuclear war won't happen. If North Korea fires one off, it'll be like suicide. Everything around it will concentrate on eliminating North Korea to prevent a nuclear war.
[QUOTE=booster;22064645]It will never happen, just like those other 10000 times NK did this,[/QUOTE]
Yes, they've threatened shit before, but this time there really is a chance of increased sanctions or even military action. They blew up a ship. A rather large and expensive ship that killed 49 people.
Don't worry guys, this will all be over in a few weeks.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22065051]I'm sorry but the last attack was almost 10 years ago.[/QUOTE]
irrelevant
the WTC bombing was in 1993.. 8 years later 9/11 happened. These are complex attacks that take years and years of training and preparation.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22065051]All the others today are now horribly planned, or just simple failures.
Also including the annual 'threat' which Osama never delivers.[/QUOTE]
they're still a threat. they've proven that with the attacks they've carried out.
[QUOTE=Caboose17;22065326]Yes, they've threatened shit before, but this time there really is a chance of increased sanctions or even military action. They blew up a ship. A rather large and expensive ship that killed 49 people.[/QUOTE]
Not the first time. The South have already ruled out military actions.
They know they'll be devastated.
Oh sweet, if there's going to be a second Korean War, I hope Canada goes to help the South, 'cause I'll be there with fucking bells on.
The US might. They just might.
N. Korea seems to have always been a thorn in the side of the world... Let's just hope no nukes drop during the next crisis.
So they sink a boat and kill 46 people, and the world wags their fingers at them...
[QUOTE=Kronos Zul;22065434]So they sink a boat and kill 46 people, and the world wags their fingers at them...[/QUOTE]
It's either that, or millions of dead South Koreans.
Kim Jong Il is the boy who cried 'war'.
I've stopped tuning in on North Korea 'war scare' articles because it never amounts to anything.. i don't think they are dumb enough to wage war on anyone right now..
More North Korean dick swinging. Nothing notable.
Here's the beauty of it all. The population of North Korea is about 99% Military, so if war was to ever break out, apart from children, there would be almost no civilian casualties. And on top of that, considering most of the buildings don't have people in them and probably don't have power, there will be absolutely no collateral damage what so ever.
I burst out laughing upon entering this thread and seeing that picture
[QUOTE=Informative Man;22066139]I burst out laughing upon entering this thread and seeing that picture[/QUOTE]
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Daaaaw :3:
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;22066023]Here's the beauty of it all. The population of North Korea is about 99% Military, so if war was to ever break out, apart from children, there would be almost no civilian casualties. And on top of that, considering most of the buildings don't have people in them and probably don't have power, there will be absolutely no collateral damage what so ever.[/QUOTE]
I would love to see where you get your sources on all that.
[QUOTE=Tigster;22066167]I would love to see where you get your sources on all that.[/QUOTE]
It's Strelok, he talks out of his ass all of the time.
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